Cocaine

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 14-05-2021 12:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Good to see you've got something new and productive to add to it.

I have and have done so, but when you get people dismissing such posts as "oh look we've got a drug expert here!", why bother?

I'll leave you to have the last witty retort.

dasdog · 14-05-2021 12:13PM

Aside from the odd line when offered I stopped doing it twenty years ago. It's just shít really and ends the same way - more and more and more. Amphetamine is a much more productive and less addictive drug - I'm still partial when it's about. But when you hit your thirties it's probably best to stay away from Class A's. I've one friend whose still doing gear and smoking crack and is a father of three trying to fill a chasm of emptiness. Sad really and I know a few like that.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 14-05-2021 12:18PM

dasdog wrote: »

Aside from the odd line when offered I stopped doing it twenty years ago. It's just shít really and ends the same way - more and more and more. Amphetamine is a much more productive and less addictive drug - I'm still partial when it's about. But when you hit your thirties it's probably best to stay away from Class A's. I've one friend whose still doing gear and smoking crack and is a father of three trying to fill a chasm of emptiness. Sad really and I know a few like that.

I find cocaine more "more-ish" than addictive.

Exstacy would be a far more inteesting drug, lasts longer, is a fraction of the price and doesn't hae the same moral implications.

You caan't take it ll that often though - whereas the big problem with Cocaine is that you can go through a couple of grams a night and still be ready for more 24 hours later.

14-05-2021 12:20PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I have and have done so, but when you get people dismissing such posts as "oh look we've got a drug expert here!", why bother?

I'll leave you to have the last witty retort.

Did you read the post I quoted? Because I'm showing more respect and deference than it deserves.

dasdog · 14-05-2021 12:26PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Exstacy would be a far more inteesting drug, lasts longer, is a fraction of the price and doesn't hae the same moral implications.

I'm in my forties now - having grown up through the rave era the occasional dose of MDMA is still a pleasure. And LSD :pac:

pottokblue · 14-05-2021 12:30PM

Anyone hear the radio piece about Syria turning into a narcostate with its production of hashish and captagon?
PK said Captagon was the poormans cocaine widespread in the middleeast anybody try the captagon.
I would stay away from cocaine as its bad for the heart and would avoid captagon too.

B.A._Baracus · 14-05-2021 01:40PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I see the standard of debate is just as strong as it was the last tiem I visited this thread...

I know you are, but what am I?

Tomaldo · 15-05-2021 12:11AM

Augeo wrote: »

Legalising cocaine is a nutty idea, there'd still be a huge blackmarket cocaine market, just like the tax free & fake cigarette options.

Keeping it illegal is a far nuttier idea. There's evidence William Shakespeare took it, so if it has been around since/before his time what makes u think prohibition will make it disappear anytime soon. How do u know there would be a HUGE cocaine black market, will u lend me ur crystal ball, I wanna clean the bookies out. As another poster said cigarettes r taxed at 80 %, in Spain they're about one third the price here and in Gibraltar and other countries they're even cheaper, that's why there's a black market for them.

mcsean2163 · 15-05-2021 12:15AM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

In the context of ever increasing consumption of cocaine in Ireland, I thought the following from the gardai investigating Keane Mulready-Woods gruesome murder was interesting. Indeed, given the typical demographic of this site, there are large numbers of cocaine users on this site. So, do you think cocaine users in Ireland have some responsibility for the gang warfare that is destroying parts of the country?

I think the people of Ireland have blood on their hands. It should be regulated instead of criminalised.

For whatever reason, a lot of people in Ireland want drugs and that doesn't mean they are automatically evil. Put it this way, if alcohol were illegal would boozers have blood on their hands or would the government?

Ash.J.Williams · 15-05-2021 12:30AM

pottokblue wrote: »

Anyone hear the radio piece about Syria turning into a narcostate with its production of hashish and captagon?
PK said Captagon was the poormans cocaine widespread in the middleeast anybody try the captagon.
I would stay away from cocaine as its bad for the heart and would avoid captagon too.

No but I want some

Tomaldo · 15-05-2021 12:45AM

Augeo wrote: »

They were preferable to loads of feral scrotes terrorising their neighbours on scramblers and robbing workers of their phones around the IFSC.

If the brainwashed puritans of that era had made contraception legal, there may have been fewer "illegitimate" children and less of a need for the laundries/prisons. If the modern day "feral scrotes" were treated half as badly as those "fallen women" then there probably wouldn't be as many phones being robbed in the IFSC and elsewhere. Back then it was single women having sex that was a problem for the puritans, now it's illegal drugs.

Big Gerry · 15-05-2021 07:58PM

Tomaldo wrote: »

Keeping it illegal is a far nuttier idea. There's evidence William Shakespeare took it, so if it has been around since/before his time what makes u think prohibition will make it disappear anytime soon. How do u know there would be a HUGE cocaine black market, will u lend me ur crystal ball, I wanna clean the bookies out. As another poster said cigarettes r taxed at 80 %, in Spain they're about one third the price here and in Gibraltar and other countries they're even cheaper, that's why there's a black market for them.

I thought cocaine was only invented in the late 19th century ?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-05-2021 08:25PM

Big Gerry wrote: »

I thought cocaine was only invented in the late 19th century ?

It's been around for centuries, although how long in Europe I don't know. It's more likely Shakespeare took a similar opioid if not cocaine itself.

Big Gerry · 15-05-2021 08:31PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's been around for centuries, although how long in Europe I don't know. It's more likely Shakespeare took a similar opioid if not cocaine itself.

I'm talking about processed cocaine which is a totally different animal to people eating coca leaves.

ohnonotgmail · 15-05-2021 08:39PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's been around for centuries, although how long in Europe I don't know. It's more likely Shakespeare took a similar opioid if not cocaine itself.

The plant has been used for centuries but cocaine wasn't isolated until the middle of the 19th century

Big Gerry · 15-05-2021 08:42PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

The plant has been used for centuries but cocaine wasn't isolated until the middle of the 19th century

I wonder has anyone died from eating coca leaves ?

ohnonotgmail · 15-05-2021 08:44PM

Big Gerry wrote: »

I wonder has anyone died from eating coca leaves ?

I don't think you could possibly eat enough of the leaves.

Ash.J.Williams · 15-05-2021 08:59PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's been around for centuries, although how long in Europe I don't know. It's more likely Shakespeare took a similar opioid if not cocaine itself.

Cocaine is fairly new , people chewed cocoa leaves for centuries alright

ohnonotgmail · 15-05-2021 09:14PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Cocaine is fairly new , people chewed cocoa leaves for centuries alright

cocoa leaves are a very different thing indeed.

Ash.J.Williams · 15-05-2021 09:21PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

cocoa leaves are a very different thing indeed.

Great with a bit of ice cream

SEPT 23 1989 · 15-05-2021 09:28PM

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Mimon · 15-05-2021 09:44PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's been around for centuries, although how long in Europe I don't know. It's more likely Shakespeare took a similar opioid if not cocaine itself.

Cocaine is not an opioid.

Just looking it up there smoking coca leaves happened in Elizabethan England and there was residue of this found in the pipe found in his garden, along with cannabis, interesting.

No evidence it was his pipe though.

Tomaldo · 16-05-2021 09:00AM

Mimon wrote: »

Cocaine is not an opioid.

Just looking it up there smoking coca leaves happened in Elizabethan England and there was residue of this found in the pipe found in his garden, along with cannabis, interesting.

No evidence it was his pipe though.

True! but it was found in his home.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 16-05-2021 09:08AM

Big Gerry wrote: »

I'm talking about processed cocaine which is a totally different animal to people eating coca leaves.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

The plant has been used for centuries but cocaine wasn't isolated until the middle of the 19th century

Mimon wrote: »

Cocaine is not an opioid.

Just looking it up there smoking coca leaves happened in Elizabethan England and there was residue of this found in the pipe found in his garden, along with cannabis, interesting.

No evidence it was his pipe though.

Yeah, sorry - was mixing it up with Heroin for some reason (it was late, I was tired!)

But my point is that cocaine had ancestors that would have been around and he was probably consuming whatever the available equivaletn was at the time.

Hamsterchops · 16-05-2021 09:11AM

If you wanna hang out
You've gotta take her out
Cocaine
If you wanna get down
Down on the ground
Cocaine

She don't lie
She don't lie
She don't lie
Cocaine

If you got bad news
You wanna kick them blues
Cocaine
When your day is done
And you wanna run
Cocaine

She don't lie
She don't lie
She don't lie
Cocaine

If your thing is gone
And you wanna ride on
Cocaine
Don't forget this fact
You can't get it back
Cocaine

She don't lie
She don't lie
She don't lie
Cocaine

She don't lie
She don't lie
She don't lie
Cocaine

Eric Clapton

ohnonotgmail · 16-05-2021 07:06PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Yeah, sorry - was mixing it up with Heroin for some reason (it was late, I was tired!)

But my point is that cocaine had ancestors that would have been around and he was probably consuming whatever the available equivaletn was at the time.

Heroin is even newer than cocaine. But your general point is right, people have been using whatever they can get their hands on to get high for as long as man has been on this earth.

TheMilkyPirate · 16-05-2021 07:15PM

Mimon wrote: »

Was at a party last summer and I stuck to MDMA and was still flying, on a lovely level with a couple of others at 9am. Everyone that took Coke also were mashed and in bed by 4am. Don't see the point at all.

That's all well and good until your trying to eat your own eyebrows and are suicidal on the come down the next day. Coke is popular because you can hide it fairly well when your up on it and the next day isn't that bad compared to other class As. Not because it's that great of a high.

TheMilkyPirate · 16-05-2021 07:24PM

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Any time I tried it, it did absolutely nothing, and I know it was cocaine instead of flour because it numbed my gums.

I assume the cocaine economy has completely collapsed. I'm not sure why the drug was ever popular, but its usage during a Lockdown would be even harder to comprehend.

A lot of cutting agents numb your gums. That why they are used. It's not an indicator of quality.

And on your second point it hasn't collapsed at all. At least around my way it's as popular as ever. Just because the pubs are closed doesn't mean people haven't been socialising.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 16-05-2021 07:36PM

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

That's all well and good until your trying to eat your own eyebrows and are suicidal on the come down the next day. Coke is popular because you can hide it fairly well when your up on it and the next day isn't that bad compared to other class As. Not because it's that great of a high.

You know that doesn;t happen to everyone, right?

And it's a much nicer, smoother and longer high than coke.

Tomaldo · 17-05-2021 12:10PM

Mimon wrote: »

Cocaine is not an opioid.

Just looking it up there smoking coca leaves happened in Elizabethan England and there was residue of this found in the pipe found in his garden, along with cannabis, interesting.

No evidence it was his pipe though.

True but it was on his property, so it proves it was around centuries ago.

Cocaine

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