Giro D'Italia Stage 7: Notaresco to Termoli (181km)

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 10:42am #1

Back to the sprinters today with another relatively flat stage which largely hugs the coast as they head further south. The second half in particular is very flat, although there is a slight rise to the finish which might favour the punchier sprinters, although the bookies still seem to see it as a fairly standard sprint judging by the odds.

In that context Ewan was untouchable the other day and it's hard to see anyone but himself or maybe Merlier winning.

Odds from Bet365
Caleb Ewan 2/1
Tim Merlier 7/2
Giacomo Nizzolo 11/2
Peter Sagan 13/2
Dylan Groenewegen 10/1

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 10:44am

btw I won't be able to do the weekend threads so open call for anyone that fancies it!

Richard Hillman · 14-05-2021 11:21am

This is a Peter Sagan stage with Dan Martin as a very sneaky dark horse.

Mefistofelino · 14-05-2021 11:39am

I don't think the finish is hilly enough for Sagan and definitely not for the likes of Dan. Its also too far out.

However the last km is another mess, with tight turns and street furniture.

There is a very good summary of the last few km, including Streetview photos on this Site

Richard Hillman · 14-05-2021 11:44am

Oh sorry, I thought the climb in the profile was the finish :pac:

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 11:46am

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Oh sorry, I thought the climb in the profile was the finish :pac:

First profile above with the chequered in it flag is the finish

14-05-2021 11:54am

Pozzovivo is a non starter after a crash yesterday. Damaged his elbow according to Hatch.

Inquitus · 14-05-2021 12:30pm

How much time is Remco good for in the long 33km TT in the final stage over an average GC Rider like Yates, Bernal, Dan Martin? Up to 90 seconds odd?

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 12:59pm

Mefistofelino wrote: »

However the last km is another mess, with tight turns and street furniture.

There is a very good summary of the last few km, including Streetview photos on this Site

The photo at 400m in particular looks like trouble.

14-05-2021 1:09pm

Inquitus wrote: »

How much time is Remco good for in the long 33km TT in the final stage over an average GC Rider like Yates, Bernal, Dan Martin? Up to 90 seconds odd?

He took about 20 seconds over Bernal and Carthy in the prologue, maybe a minute or more over the 30km TT on the final day?

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 1:11pm

Deleted User wrote: »

He took about 20 seconds over Bernal and Carthy in the prologue, maybe a minute or more over the 30km TT on the final day?

And quite possibly another chunk over Dan too.

Mefistofelino · 14-05-2021 2:00pm

mr spuckler wrote: »

The photo at 400m in particular looks like trouble.

If I had to pick a very outside bet for today, I'd go for the likes of Ganna with a Cancellara-stylee finish. That ramp at 1500m is about 10% for 150m. He can't outjump the sprinters teams but he could burn them on current form. The last 1200m is messy enough that the sprinters teams may end up falling over themselves.

Dodge · 14-05-2021 2:05pm

Mefistofelino wrote: »

If I had to pick a very outside bet for today, I'd go for the likes of Ganna with a Cancellara-stylee finish. That ramp at 1500m is about 10% for 150m. He can't outjump the sprinters teams but he could burn them on current form. The last 1200m is messy enough that the sprinters teams may end up falling over themselves.

Only if Ineos allow him! It does look like something Cancellera or even Tony Martin would try and use the ramp to attack

I think all the GC lads will be fighting to be at the front and there could be chaos.

Mefistofelino · 14-05-2021 2:12pm

Dodge wrote: »

Only if Ineos allow him! It does look like something Cancellera or even Tony Martin would try and use the ramp to attack

I think all the GC lads will be fighting to be at the front and there could be chaos.

He's given them a stage win, a pink jersey and worked his plums off yesterday (even if they ultimately made a pigs ear of their advantage). They might give him a little treat today!

Paddigol · 14-05-2021 2:15pm

Yeah, I hope Danhole can stay out of trouble til the race hits the mountains. So far so good - nothing disastrous in the TT, picked up time over a few rivals, and hasn't been taken out by a flying squirrel or anything ridiculous. Whatever about time, with stages like today's and Wednesday's, I take him losing a small bit of time if it meant him staying upright.

Darkglasses · 14-05-2021 2:50pm

Hannah Walker is a brilliant commentator. More of her please

dastardly00 · 14-05-2021 3:49pm

For some reason I've watched the last 20 km. Highlights have included Ganna having a chat with Viviani, and the peloton going through the litter zone :pac:

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 3:53pm

I just paid attention again and they're talking about somebody who likes Colombian sweets.

dastardly00 · 14-05-2021 4:20pm

20 km to go

Weepsie · 14-05-2021 4:21pm

Eisel said there's train tracks right before the end?

Now if assume there recessed into the ground, but that's the sort of thing that shouldn't be at the end of a stage.

Mefistofelino · 14-05-2021 4:34pm

Weepsie wrote: »

Eisel said there's train tracks right before the end?

Now if assume there recessed into the ground, but that's the sort of thing that shouldn't be at the end of a stage.

Bridge over the tracks rather than on-road tracks, I think

dastardly00 · 14-05-2021 4:38pm

Serious speed in the peloton now

Mefistofelino · 14-05-2021 4:39pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

Serious speed in the peloton now

I think Hatch may faint.

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 4:44pm

Wow - some job by Ewan!

De Bhál · 14-05-2021 4:46pm

mr spuckler wrote: »

Wow - some job by Ewan!

Looks like Sagan had a bike problem - relatively easy for Ewan, hasn't much competition really it seems

Dodge · 14-05-2021 4:46pm

So strong. Won it by a mile

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 4:47pm

Nizzolo and Sagan not even in the top 10.

Richard Hillman · 14-05-2021 4:48pm

De Bhál wrote: »

Looks like Sagan had a bike problem - relatively easy for Ewan, hasn't much competition really it seems

I think he was doing a bit of bumping and grinding before that

14-05-2021 4:48pm

De Bhál wrote: »

Looks like Sagan had a bike problem - relatively easy for Ewan, hasn't much competition really it seems

They completely missed that on coms, he took a wobble against the barrier I think.

Mefistofelino · 14-05-2021 4:48pm

De Bhál wrote: »

Looks like Sagan had a bike problem - relatively easy for Ewan, hasn't much competition really it seems

The engine is a bit shagged these days

dastardly00 · 14-05-2021 4:49pm

That was awesome from Ewan.

Hugh Carthy with a mechanical... does he lose time?

Mefistofelino · 14-05-2021 4:55pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

That was awesome from Ewan.

Hugh Carthy with a mechanical... does he lose time?

He shouldn't- within the last 3km and there is evidence of it.

In the event that a rider or riders suffer a fall, puncture or mechanical incident in the last 3 kilometres and such an incident is duly recognised, the rider or riders involved are credited with the same finishing time of the rider or riders they were with at the time of the incident.

dastardly00 · 14-05-2021 4:59pm

Mefistofelino wrote: »

He shouldn't- within the last 3km and there is evidence of it.

In the event that a rider or riders suffer a fall, puncture or mechanical incident in the last 3 kilometres and such an incident is duly recognised, the rider or riders involved are credited with the same finishing time of the rider or riders they were with at the time of the incident.

Thanks. I wasn't sure if the 3 km rule was just for crashes or if it included mechanicals as well.

Dodge · 14-05-2021 5:04pm

He was shown briefly gesturing at the cars. You’d assume it was a mechanical

We don’t know if it was in the 3km either. Could be a while waiting on the jury to figure it out

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 5:06pm

Dodge wrote: »

He was shown briefly gesturing at the cars. You’d assume it was a mechanical

We don’t know if it was in the 3km either. Could be a while waiting on the jury to figure it out

Pretty sure it was on the steep ramp within the last 2km.

Dodge · 14-05-2021 5:10pm

The giro site has updated with a time for Carthy. 2’21 down along with his whole team

We’ll see soon if it’s updated

Mefistofelino · 14-05-2021 5:17pm

Dodge wrote: »

The giro site has updated with a time for Carthy. 2’21 down along with his whole team

We’ll see soon if it’s updated

Giro site now has Carthy back in 6th overall at 38 seconds

neris · 14-05-2021 5:19pm

Mefistofelino wrote: »

I think Hatch may faint.

Sounded like he was commentating on the grand national

Inquitus · 14-05-2021 5:28pm

Dodge wrote: »

The giro site has updated with a time for Carthy. 2’21 down along with his whole team

We’ll see soon if it’s updated

He seems to be ok per the official site now:

Dodge · 14-05-2021 5:30pm

I think it’s one of the better rules they brought in in (relatively) recent times too fwiw

Only on flat stages but don’t want to see anyone lose out like that

mr spuckler · 14-05-2021 6:53pm

Dodge wrote: »

I think it’s one of the better rules they brought in in (relatively) recent times too fwiw

Only on flat stages but don’t want to see anyone lose out like that

Not even Carthy? :pac:

I don't know exactly what it is but I got to dislike him during the Vuelta, maybe it was the fawning of the commentators that pushed me over the edge!

Brian? · 14-05-2021 7:15pm

Inquitus wrote: »

How much time is Remco good for in the long 33km TT in the final stage over an average GC Rider like Yates, Bernal, Dan Martin? Up to 90 seconds odd?

I’d say 2 mins over Bernal. More over the rest

retalivity · 14-05-2021 10:24pm

Brian? wrote: »

I’d say 2 mins over Bernal. More over the rest

A fresh Evanepoel maybe, a TT after a 3 week tour and also 10 months out may be a lot closer

Daroxtar · 14-05-2021 11:15pm

mr spuckler wrote: »

Not even Carthy? :pac:

I don't know exactly what it is but I got to dislike him during the Vuelta, maybe it was the fawning of the commentators that pushed me over the edge!

Funny, I went the other way. I wasn't keen on him but don't mind him now. He put in a few very good performances imho.
Have a listen to his interview on the cycling podcast from last year. He comes across quite well

14-05-2021 11:23pm

That 100km solo win a few years ago at tour de suisse was my first sit up and take notice moment for him but this is his 4th Giro I think.

Giro D'Italia Stage 7: Notaresco to Termoli (181km)

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