Nissan Qashqai?

sniperman · 13-05-2021 9:50am #1

hi folks,what would think of buying a qashqai as a long term investment,say 5 to 6 years,one around the 171 reg 2lt,diesel around 30/40,00 miles,paying around 18 grand,looking for a reliable thing to last a while,i only do about 10,000 miles a year,have a fiesta now 192 st line 2 door with only 14,000 km on it,but have always wanted an suv,so anyones opinions,suggestions welcome,thanks folks,would hope to sell the fiesta soon,not trade in

colm_mcm · 13-05-2021 12:21pm

Of the 10,000 miles a year you do, can you go into more details about the typical journeys you do. Diesel isn’t for everybody.

Also most of the diesel Qashqais you’ll see are 1.5 diesel. They do a 1.2 turbo petrol too which would be worth considering.

sniperman · 13-05-2021 2:23pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Of the 10,000 miles a year you do, can you go into more details about the typical journeys you do. Diesel isn’t for everybody.

Also most of the diesel Qashqais you’ll see are 1.5 diesel. They do a 1.2 turbo petrol too which would be worth considering.

hi,typical journeys work locally,shopping etc,spins around town,odd 50 mile trip to boot sales etc,i would however,as i think im supposed to with a diesel,go for a 20/30 mile trip every week to clear out the exhaust etc,it reliability/less trouble.im after,dont want it in the garage every other week

colm_mcm · 13-05-2021 3:35pm

Would you even be doing 10k miles/16k km a year then?
That’s 300km a week. 40 a day?

AMKC · 13-05-2021 8:06pm

You mean a 3 door Fiesta.there is no such thing as a 2 door fiesta. Why change? You have a lovely car and a more modern car than the one you are thinking of getting.
An SUV will not handle anywhere nearly as good as your Fiesta.

colm_mcm · 13-05-2021 8:17pm

punisher5112 · 13-05-2021 8:20pm

Honestly you want to go down years to be in a fake SUV.... A Nissan at that..... Ugh I wouldn't.

sniperman · 13-05-2021 9:52pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Would you even be doing 10k miles/16k km a year then?
That’s 300km a week. 40 a day?

maybe not evan that much

sniperman · 13-05-2021 9:53pm

AMKC wrote: »

You mean a 3 door Fiesta.there is no such thing as a 2 door fiesta. Why change? You have a lovely car and a more modern car than the one you are thinking of getting.
An SUV will not handle anywhere nearly as good as your Fiesta.

thanks,but have fancied an suv now for a while.i see loads around

punisher5112 · 13-05-2021 10:02pm

sniperman wrote: »

thanks,but have fancied an suv now for a while.i see loads around

Seriously what you have is a much better car, the fake SUV trend will have to end.

If you said you wanted something cool like the vRS kodaq or kodiaq always mix up them ....

colm_mcm · 14-05-2021 8:02am

sniperman wrote: »

maybe not evan that much

Forget the diesel in that case.

Flinty997 · 14-05-2021 8:48am

sniperman wrote: »

hi folks,what would think of buying a qashqai as a long term investment, ..

No normal car is an investment. It's a depreciating asset.

A SUV will be more expensive to run generally. If you can buy a phev with decent on battery range.

The J Stands for Jay · 14-05-2021 8:53am

sniperman wrote: »

thanks,but have fancied an suv now for a while.i see loads around

What is it about an SUV that appeals, and what is your definition of SUV? The name implies 4 wheel drive and some off road capabilities, neither of which you'll get from a crossover like the Nissan.

Fawk Nin · 14-05-2021 8:57am

McGaggs wrote: »

What is it about an SUV that appeals, and what is your definition of SUV? The name implies 4 wheel drive and some off road capabilities, neither of which you'll get from a crossover like the Nissan.

I don't know about OP but I have been considering a crossover SUV myself.

Main reasons are they seem to fit the family lifestyle better: more spacious, good boot size, higher up so easier to put kids into car seats etc. I also like the look of them.

I have seen pretty negative opinions of them in general on here though. Are there good reasons for it or people just not liking the trend?

sniperman · 14-05-2021 9:18am

McGaggs wrote: »

What is it about an SUV that appeals, and what is your definition of SUV? The name implies 4 wheel drive and some off road capabilities, neither of which you'll get from a crossover like the Nissan.

well what appeals to me is im over 60 now,and want to get back into outdoor pursuits etc country driveing etc,fiesta is not great for country lanes,mountain roads ect,want somthing thats able,and was on done deal and seen the nissan qashqai with diamond cut alloys,very nice in blue,and seems to have alot of extras

colm_mcm · 14-05-2021 9:19am

Fawk Nin wrote: »

I don't know about OP but I have been considering a crossover SUV myself.

Main reasons are they seem to fit the family lifestyle better: more spacious, good boot size, higher up so easier to put kids into car seats etc. I also like the look of them.

I have seen pretty negative opinions of them in general on here though. Are there good reasons for it or people just not liking the trend?

They’re immensely popular. Look at the sales figures.
Motoring enthusiasts obviously won’t like them because they have cannibalised the sales of coupes and saloons, and they don’t drive as well as a car with a lower centre of gravity.
For the non-helmsmiths, the benefits you’ve listed above are great reasons to buy it me.

sirmixalot · 14-05-2021 9:21am

colm_mcm wrote: »

Forget the diesel in that case.

Yep, you'd have serious DPF problems on short runs. Get a petrol for those journeys.

Flinty997 · 14-05-2021 9:22am

It's about fashion. I like the look of them, and I like the idea that I'll be going up the mountains hiking or MTB with one. I know I don't though. Arguably they are safer in a crash with a smaller vehicle. But less stable due to high CG. Heavier on fuel and servicing.

Reality is a MPV is better in every way other than looks. But I was looking for a PHEV in a MPV I can't get one. I can get a PHEV in a SUV. So I'll probably end up with a SUV anyway for that reason.

I also do low miles and usually short journeys. But found it impossible to get decent petrol MPV as a stop gap. So had to get diesel. I'll replace it with a PHEV or small petrol very quickly I imagine.

Flinty997 · 14-05-2021 9:23am

sirmixalot wrote: »

Yep, you'd have serious DPF problems on short runs. Get a petrol for those journeys.

Petrol in a heavy SUV though isn't ideal. Unless running costs aren't a factor. Or perhaps low enough miles that you aren't using much fuel anyway.

Electric Nitwit · 14-05-2021 9:34am

colm_mcm wrote: »

They do a 1.2 turbo petrol too which would be worth considering.

Had one of these, 141 plates, for the last 3 years and I still love it. Brilliant car to drive

Yes it's not a 4x4, off road beast but I'm sure you didn't need that pointed out to you

What it is, is a great, great car!

Downsides...
...if you put kids seats in the back the front seats won't go all the way back. That said, I'm 6'2" and find the driving position OK with the baby seat in behind (I do prefer it without though!)
...there's a slight delay in the turbo, but you learn very quickly how to drive allowing for that. You won't fly off the lights though

That's genuinely all I can think of. Recently moved house so did loads of back and forward, country/motorway/city driving, empty and fully loaded, loved the car every time

Bass Reeves · 14-05-2021 9:41am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Seriously what you have is a much better car, the fake SUV trend will have to end.

If you said you wanted something cool like the vRS kodaq or kodiaq always mix up them ....

It's not going to end any time soon. SUV's are very popular with those over 50. Easier to get in and out of and a better road view with the higher driving position. As well as many people have to buy MPV's when they have children they find it hard to revert back to a standard saloon.

Car manufacturers have made them more fuel efficient and the mid range IX35, Tucson and Qashqai etc are doing 50mpg(5.5-6L/100km) Toyota list market share because it persisted with standard saloons and only had the RAV which was at the upper end of the SUV range. The CH-R they have developed still leaves them more or less out to the mid range market still occupied by the Qashqai, Tucson, Kuga, Koleos, Kodiaq, 3008 etc.

The J Stands for Jay · 14-05-2021 9:48am

Fawk Nin wrote: »

Main reasons are they seem to fit the family lifestyle better: more spacious, good boot size, higher up so easier to put kids into car seats etc. I also like the look of them.

Do they really suit a family better? Compared to the likes of a Passat or Mondeo, they look to have less room and the boot is often pretty small looking.

The J Stands for Jay · 14-05-2021 9:49am

sniperman wrote: »

well what appeals to me is im over 60 now,and want to get back into outdoor pursuits etc country driveing etc,fiesta is not great for country lanes,mountain roads ect,want somthing thats able,and was on done deal and seen the nissan qashqai with diamond cut alloys,very nice in blue,and seems to have alot of extras

I would've thought a qashqai would be worse than the fiesta; being wider on narrow lanes and having no off road advantage.

Hurrache · 14-05-2021 9:50am

Fawk Nin wrote: »

good boot size

Boot size is generally not great,

punisher5112 · 14-05-2021 9:57am

sniperman wrote: »

well what appeals to me is im over 60 now,and want to get back into outdoor pursuits etc country driveing etc,fiesta is not great for country lanes,mountain roads ect,want somthing thats able,and was on done deal and seen the nissan qashqai with diamond cut alloys,very nice in blue,and seems to have alot of extras

The fiesta will handle better in all those circumstances, a Nissan on them roads wouldn't.....

endacl · 14-05-2021 9:59am

sniperman wrote: »

hi folks,what would think of buying a qashqai as a long term investment,

A car you use to drive to the shops and get to work in isn't an investment. It's a depreciating asset. An expense.

Bass Reeves · 14-05-2021 10:10am

endacl wrote: »

A car you use to drive to the shops and get to work in isn't an investment. It's a depreciating asset. An expense.

I think what OP means is that he intends to hold onto this type of car for a long time so there is no need to be snotty. I think we all know cars depreciate. However some hold there value better than other. TBH when buying any motorized vehicle that you intend to hold onto for 6-10 years realibility and maintenance costs are what I look at more than anything else

Flinty997 · 14-05-2021 11:53am

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I think what OP means is that he intends to hold onto this type of car for a long time so there is no need to be snotty. I think we all know cars depreciate. However some hold there value better than other. TBH when buying any motorized vehicle that you intend to hold onto for 6-10 years realibility and maintenance costs are what I look at more than anything else

Short Journeys, Low mileage, low maintenance costs.

Sounds like a EV to me.

Turbohymac · 14-05-2021 12:01pm

Can't see any ev as being a cheap long term car at present... there's about double the cost to purchase new compared to what they should cost the buyer..old leafs with crap batteries or Hyundai ionics that are 40k.. and still a very small car..
Maybe a vw id3 in a few years time but very little second hand for realistic money compared to 2017 kajar or quaskai..

Bass Reeves · 14-05-2021 12:09pm

Turbohymac wrote: »

Can't see any ev as being a cheap long term car at present... there's about double the cost to purchase new compared to what they should cost the buyer..old leafs with crap batteries or Hyundai ionics that are 40k.. and still a very small car..
Maybe a vw id3 in a few years time but very little second hand for realistic money compared to 2017 kajar or quaskai..

As well if OP wants to use this for touring/ country driving access to charging point might be an issue as well as installing one at home. Some lads get hard one's trying to put EV into every situation

Fawk Nin · 14-05-2021 1:49pm

Hurrache wrote: »

Boot size is generally not great,

Yeah I guess it's big enough for what I need and you can put the back seats down if you want more space for moving stuff etc. I also prefer the open space boot when compared with a saloon where it's usually more awkward to get in at the back of the boot.

Fully admit this is all just personal preference though.

punisher5112 · 14-05-2021 1:53pm

If you want something cool, something drives nice and has style go get a Octavia vRS....

Bass Reeves · 14-05-2021 2:05pm

Fawk Nin wrote: »

Yeah I guess it's big enough for what I need and you can put the back seats down if you want more space for moving stuff etc. I also prefer the open space boot when compared with a saloon where it's usually more awkward to get in at the back of the boot.

Fully admit this is all just personal preference though.

Ya while the boot can be physically smaller the dropping the back seats and high roof level gives more options than in a standard saloon

Bass Reeves · 14-05-2021 2:07pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

If you want something cool, something drives nice and has style go get a Octavia vRS....

Again you are looking at something that is hard to come accross and again you have a low seating position

colm_mcm · 14-05-2021 2:44pm

Flinty997 wrote: »

Petrol in a heavy SUV though isn't ideal. Unless running costs aren't a factor. Or perhaps low enough miles that you aren't using much fuel anyway.

First of all, the Qashqai isn’t a heavy SUV.

A 1.2 Qashqai is 1300kg, it’s basically a Nissan Pulsar with jacked up suspension.

AMKC · 14-05-2021 3:00pm

sniperman wrote: »

well what appeals to me is im over 60 now,and want to get back into outdoor pursuits etc country driveing etc,fiesta is not great for country lanes,mountain roads ect,want somthing thats able,and was on done deal and seen the nissan qashqai with diamond cut alloys,very nice in blue,and seems to have alot of extras

Awe now that makes more sense. I thought you were a young lad. Would you consider a KIA Sportage? The Da has one is in his 70s and finds it perfect for him. Hyundai Tucson good too. Seat Ateca as well are nice and good to drive in fact the Ateca is one of the best SUVs to drive.

Flinty997 · 14-05-2021 5:57pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

As well if OP wants to use this for touring/ country driving access to charging point might be an issue as well as installing one at home. Some lads get hard one's trying to put EV into every situation

More the mileage 10k a year and the journey type...

sniperman wrote: »

hi,typical journeys work locally,shopping etc,spins around town,odd 50 mile trip to boot sales etc,i would however,as i think im supposed to with a diesel,go for a 20/30 mile trip every week to clear out the exhaust etc,it reliability/less trouble.im after,dont want it in the garage every other week

sniperman · 14-05-2021 7:33pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I think what OP means is that he intends to hold onto this type of car for a long time so there is no need to be snotty. I think we all know cars depreciate. However some hold there value better than other. TBH when buying any motorized vehicle that you intend to hold onto for 6-10 years realibility and maintenance costs are what I look at more than anything else

ive thanked you all for your reply's,but bass reeves hit the nail on the head,reliability/maintenance,is key for me, thats what im really asking about

sniperman · 14-05-2021 7:43pm

AMKC wrote: »

Awe now that makes more sense. I thought you were a young lad. Would you consider a KIA Sportage? The Da has one is in his 70s and finds it perfect for him. Hyundai Tucson good too. Seat Ateca as well are nice and good to drive in fact the Ateca is one of the best SUVs to drive.

hi, sportage are a nice car,but im leaning towards the nissan,seen a very nice blue one on done deal,with diamond cut alloys,with a lot of extras,so was my op about reliability etc,just try io get as much info as i can before i commit

vectra · 24-05-2021 11:34am

This thread is hilarious,
All the "it's not an suv"
Suv's are terrible.
Get a hatchback.
Cars handle better
Yadda yadda.
The OP asked a simple question, I don't recall him asking anything about "investments", "Cars", "
MPV's"

@ OP.
I had cars all my life, including the mentoned Vrs Octavias. Passat, Mondeo ST line etc.
I bought a new Ateca FR 1.5 dsg in 2019. I can never see myself going back to diesel or a car.
The seating position is very comfortable. I can fit almost as much into the boot as I did with the mondeo.
I can get decent mpg. I am over 60 like you are. OH, and it handles fantastic.
I almost bought an ID4 this time, but changed my mind and ordered another Ateca.
ID4 had no lumbar support and this is vital for me.
I also would have problem regarding charge point. Petrol is so smooth, convenient. And no worries about DPF's and all that.
Have a look around at the dealers and go for a drive in one.
I would sell you my one only it is well above your budget.

stickman1019 · 24-05-2021 1:34pm

I'd advise against the Qashqai Mrs had one for the same kind of trips you are describing.

Had DPF issues like stated above but outside of that they have terrible build quality and I had endless problems with mine.

swoofer · 24-05-2021 2:34pm

How much for the Ateca? Colour may be important. Just started Looking at T Roc as well. Want DSG petrol, 1.5

vectra · 24-05-2021 9:37pm

swoofer wrote: »

How much for the Ateca? Colour may be important. Just started Looking at T Roc as well. Want DSG petrol, 1.5

Messaged you.

sniperman · 28-05-2021 8:21am

stickman1019 wrote: »

I'd advise against the Qashqai Mrs had one for the same kind of trips you are describing.

Had DPF issues like stated above but outside of that they have terrible build quality and I had endless problems with mine.

thanks for that,what years were they?were they new?

stickman1019 · 28-05-2021 8:36am

2011 bought maybe 3 Years ago sold 2 years ago.

IrishZeus · 28-05-2021 8:55am

My father has a 172, Blue qashqai, with diamond cut alloys and is in his 60’s also - so similar situation

He bought new so almost 5 years on the go now. He also does similar/slightly smaller mileage than yourself.

He bought the 1.2l petrol as he agreed that diesel would be madness at that mileage. Dealer actually advised same. He also went automatic for the first time and is much happier.

He has had no issues since buying. Just regular services. He’s much happier with the higher seating position, as is my mother. (Bad back, knees). Came from a lower seated car and wouldn’t go back.

Only small complaint from him is interior quality is lacking a bit. Hard plastic, the odd rattle on a bumpy road but overall he’s very pleased with it and wouldn’t change. They needed a second car 2 years ago and bought an older model 142 (I think) 1.6l petrol qashqai.

As Vectra said above, the earlier responses on this thread were mostly pointless for you. It’s a motors forum so these cars are not generally sought after and get slated, but they’re by far the most appropriate type of car/vehicle for some people and situations.

So if you like it, go for it. Only personal advice would be to try and get a petrol rather than diesel based on the mileage you do.

sniperman · 29-05-2021 3:45pm

IrishZeus wrote: »

My father has a 172, Blue qashqai, with diamond cut alloys and is in his 60’s also - so similar situation He bought new so almost 5 years on the go now. He also does similar/slightly smaller mileage than yourself.

He bought the 1.2l petrol as he agreed that diesel would be madness at that mileage. Dealer actually advised same. He also went automatic for the first time and is much happier.

He has had no issues since buying. Just regular services. He’s much happier with the higher seating position, as is my mother. (Bad back, knees). Came from a lower seated car and wouldn’t go back.

Only small complaint from him is interior quality is lacking a bit. Hard plastic, the odd rattle on a bumpy road but overall he’s very pleased with it and wouldn’t change. They needed a second car 2 years ago and bought an older model 142 (I think) 1.6l petrol qashqai.

As Vectra said above, the earlier responses on this thread were mostly pointless for you. It’s a motors forum so these cars are not generally sought after and get slated, but they’re by far the most appropriate type of car/vehicle for some people and situations.

So if you like it, go for it. Only personal advice would be to try and get a petrol rather than diesel based on the mileage you do.

thanks very much for this info,it does leave me scratching my head with all the negativity this car gets,given there are soooo many around,i see loads every day and reguards mileage,i intend to get back into outdoor activities ect,plus with a deisel,take it for a good spin every now and again to clean out the exhaust etc, so ya i think ill dive in and get one,i see a few on d deal with very low mileage,one has only 9000 on it,so nearly new,that should last a while without any problems,must try shift my own now first;)

ineedeuro · 30-05-2021 8:35am

sniperman wrote: »

thanks very much for this info,it does leave me scratching my head with all the negativity this car gets,given there are soooo many around,i see loads every day and reguards mileage,i intend to get back into outdoor activities ect,plus with a deisel,take it for a good spin every now and again to clean out the exhaust etc, so ya i think ill dive in and get one,i see a few on d deal with very low mileage,one has only 9000 on it,so nearly new,that should last a while without any problems,must try shift my own now first;)

Don't mind the negativity around here. Some of the people around here seem to think they are driving around in Ferraris and I bet you will find the majority are in a Skoda :P

My parents have a Qashqai for the exact reasons you listed, love it. They got a diesel and it is used for running around and no issues. Bought a demo model from my mate who ran the local Nissan back in the day

I had one years ago myself when family was smaller, it never missed a beat for 4 years and then sold it. Diesel as well. I live in Dublin so was used to spinning around, shops, dropping kids off,

I am not saying buy diesel now just giving you my personal experience. The reason so many Qashqai are on the road is because they are a great crossover. Simple as that. They are reliable, you can get a decent spec and they are a decent price.

I would say they are just a car on bigger wheels, even I had the AWD version and it wasn't great offroad. Done the bits I wanted. If the roads are ok just need the ground clearance then no problem but if you think it might be real offroad stuff and with your mileage/budget the Mitsu Outlander PHEV might be an option? you will get a low mileage import for decent money.

ineedeuro · 30-05-2021 8:46am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Seriously what you have is a much better car, the fake SUV trend will have to end.

If you said you wanted something cool like the vRS kodaq or kodiaq always mix up them ....

The "fake SUV trend" is going the opposite. VW for instance are not releasing new cars in the US. The mondeo is dead. The US are not buying cars and Europe is following.
Just ask any of the dealers, mate had a Camry and when trading in was told the offer was so low because it wasn't an SUV
In the next 5-10 years you will see the majority of cars gone and replaced with SUV/Crossover.
Just have a look at the Hyundai range in Ireland

Bass Reeves · 30-05-2021 10:12am

ineedeuro wrote: »

The "fake SUV trend" is going the opposite. VW for instance are not releasing new cars in the US. The mondeo is dead. The US are not buying cars and Europe is following.
Just ask any of the dealers, mate had a Camry and when trading in was told the offer was so low because it wasn't an SUV
In the next 5-10 years you will see the majority of cars gone and replaced with SUV/Crossover.
Just have a look at the Hyundai range in Ireland

SUV's are here to stay whether fake or not. For most people a car is a method of getting to work and for social activity. With the virtual necessity not of having a people carrier if you have more than 2 children much more people get used to the high seated position of these cars. When they no longer require a people carrier type car they find it hard to readjust to the lower seated driving position. They tend to drift towards buying an SUV. When you see the price of an 9-10 year old SUV compared to a similar standard saloon at present you can see the demand.

Younger drivers will tend toward standard saloons. However they are dependent on the 2nd hand market generally. Second hand value of saloon's will recover in time as less of them are in the system

brian_gall85 · 30-05-2021 2:41pm

ineedeuro wrote: »

The "fake SUV trend" is going the opposite. VW for instance are not releasing new cars in the US. The mondeo is dead. The US are not buying cars and Europe is following.
Just ask any of the dealers, mate had a Camry and when trading in was told the offer was so low because it wasn't an SUV
In the next 5-10 years you will see the majority of cars gone and replaced with SUV/Crossover.
Just have a look at the Hyundai range in Ireland

Coupled with the fact that manufacturers can charge a premium for crossovers over mid side saloons and hatchbacks.

Their popularity really is destroying the car market though for anyone under 50 without 4+ kids.

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