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  • #7952
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,007 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Am booked to get my shot over here in Vancouver this Tuesday, got booked in today.

    There might have been a little tear.


  • #7953
    irishlad.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭irishlad.


    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=1421952725

    This spreadsheet continues to grow in width....cohort 9 added.

    Roughly 610k 50-59 year olds in the country. About 28% are vaccinated according to ECDC, leaving about 440k to be vaccinated.


  • #7954
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,285 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Skygord wrote: »
    Hopefully with the high vaccination rate they've broken the link between cases & hospitalizations, because it seems a perfect storm for a surge of cases going into Eid with an R of 2 already.

    The scariness of R=2 depends a lot on what the starting level of infection is.

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  • #7955
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Skygord wrote: »
    Guardian coronavirus blog today said that 50% of Covid cases in Northwest UK towns of Blackburn & Bolton are the variant prevalent in India. Bolton currently has an R0 of 2! These towns have a lot of Indian and Pakistani residents who are reputed to be not good with adhering to protocols (having family gatherings/ weddings etc). It is Eid tomorrow, so social gatherings may increase.

    Hopefully with the high vaccination rate they've broken the link between cases & hospitalizations, because it seems a perfect storm for a surge of cases going into Eid with an R of 2 already.

    I imagine we'll learn a lot about the 'Indian' variant and efficacy of vaccines (especially AZ) by watching Bolton over the next few weeks.

    The vaccines seem to be working against the Indian strain. Vaccinated HCW’s in India are showing good results of protection.


  • #7956
    eoinbn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    revelman wrote: »
    CDC is now reporting 28 cases of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome among 8.7 million vaccinated with J&J. Works out roughly at 1 in 300k though you might wonder about reporting levels in USA compared to Europe. Highest rates in women aged 30 to 49. Six cases were in men.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-j-j-vaccine/u-s-cdc-says-identified-28-blood-clotting-cases-after-jj-vaccine-idUSKBN2CT24A?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

    Not unexpected that it would rise. Hopefully there is no more to come.
    Assuming 50% breakdown that is 1 in 200k chance for women and 1 in 700k for men.


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  • #7957
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    josip wrote: »
    My 84 year old mother was today admitted to hospital for the first time in many years.
    She got her 2nd vaccine dose 4 weeks ago.
    If she had been admitted 2 months ago, I’d have been very nervous about Covid.
    What a difference, 2 months and an effective set of vaccines, make.


    The relief you feel when your parents get their first shot really is something else

    I'd a lump in my throat when I heard mine got theirs


  • #7958
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    josip wrote: »
    My 84 year old mother was today admitted to hospital for the first time in many years.
    She got her 2nd vaccine dose 4 weeks ago.
    If she had been admitted 2 months ago, I’d have been very nervous about Covid.
    What a difference, 2 months and an effective set of vaccines, make.


    Speedy recover to your mother!


  • #7959
    ddarcy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭ddarcy


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Personally I think group 4 and 7 should have been done in the MVC’s
    Lists e mailed to HSE by hospitals and GPs and a portal opened for those groups .

    That’s how it was originally planned. 4 and 7 were to get AZ. Literally the teams in hospitals emailed the HSE on who was to get it.

    For the people in cohort 4 who should be in 7, I know my hospital and have been told this occurred at others, they just took all diabetics and added them to the list. Like I’m in no way in cohort 4, not even near their definitions of being in 4, but got put with the rest of them. I think issues are arising where you use your gp only instead of a seeing a consultant.


  • #7960
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    eoinbn wrote: »
    Do you ever stop whinging? GPs also have other patients that need to be taken care of.
    If even a small percentage of cohort 7, or people that think they should be in cohort 7 when they shouldn't, has the same sense of entitlement that you do then I am sure GPs are sick and tired of been pestered by people demanding vaccines(and a particular brand at that) and just want nothing to do with cohort 7.

    Well they should do their job then, there's a fecking pandemic on, the folk in cohort 7 are not going to go away.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #7961
    JPup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭JPup


    Frank Bullitt wrote: »
    Am booked to get my shot over here in Vancouver this Tuesday, got booked in today.

    There might have been a little tear.

    That's good to hear! How long is the wait for the 2nd dose over there as a matter of interest?


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  • #7962
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,456 ✭✭✭✭km79


    So tomorrow is the last day of the Over 50s portal countdown ?


  • #7963
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    km79 wrote: »
    So tomorrow is the last day of the Over 50s portal countdown ?

    Yeah the 50 year olds are tomorrow.


  • #7964
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    JPup wrote: »
    That's good to hear! How long is the wait for the 2nd dose over there as a matter of interest?

    I heard in Quebec anyway its five months in between dose 1 and 2.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #7965
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,456 ✭✭✭✭km79


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Yeah the 50 year olds are tomorrow.

    Hope to be registering next week so


  • #7966
    corkonion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭corkonion


    I’m 54 in cork and just got a text to attend cork city hall next Tuesday for a Pfizer vaccine, in fairness they are flying through the cohorts now.


  • #7967
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Well they should do their job then, there's a fecking pandemic on, the folk in cohort 7 are not going to go away.

    I have some sympathy with GPs, told first the HSE and hospitals would sort group 4, then were asked actually can you do it? That was in addition to doing over 70's and managing their normal workload. There are only so many hours in the day. So far GPs have carried the can for most of the vaccine rollout and the HSE/government haven't done anything particularly innovative.

    Group 7 could have been given an online portal, input your condition/treatment, select your GP from a list and an alert could easily be sent to the GP to confirm. HSE had plenty of time to work this stuff out (was being discussed on this thread since vaccine efficacy results were released) but decided to shift the burden to GPs, who are in effect a private sector.


  • #7968
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Apogee


    George Lee reporting on 6.01 that NIAC may forward advice to CMO on J&J tomorrow if not tonight.

    Also mentions that J&J vaccines will be released from stock for use in MVCs later this week.


  • #7969
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    corkonion wrote: »
    I’m 54 in cork and just got a text to attend cork city hall next Tuesday for a Pfizer vaccine, in fairness they are flying through the cohorts now.
    Yes, in some parts of the country, others are still waiting for the over 60s to finish.


  • #7970
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    My friend's mother is 56 bad has pairc ui chaoimh next Monday, waiting for my 55 year old mother now!!


  • #7971
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Apogee wrote: »
    George Lee reporting on 6.01 that NIAC may forward advice to CMO on J&J tomorrow if not tonight.

    Also mentions that J&J vaccines will be released from stock for use in MVCs later this week.


    I think at this stage the dogs on the street know the 40 - 49 age group is getting Janssen

    The government have been doing soft drops with this info to the media for days


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  • #7972
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Apogee wrote: »
    George Lee reporting on 6.01 that NIAC may forward advice to CMO on J&J tomorrow if not tonight.

    Also mentions that J&J vaccines will be released from stock for use in MVCs later this week.

    Any suggestion on what that advice might be ?


  • #7973
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I think at this stage the dogs on the street know the 40 - 49 age group is getting Janssen

    The government have been doing soft drops with this info to the media for days

    As someone within that group I'd be feckin delighted. 1 and done.


  • #7974
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Apogee


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Any suggestion on what that advice might be ?


    He didn't specify. Though I reckon NIAC have already been given a broad hint from CMO.


  • #7975
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭Russman


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I think at this stage the dogs on the street know the 40 - 49 age group is getting Janssen

    The government have been doing soft drops with this info to the media for days

    This exactly. It’s been flagged for ages.

    As someone in that age group, I’ll happily take whatever one I’m offered. Can’t say I won’t have ever so slightly mixed feelings about getting J&J given what we know, but it certainly wouldn’t stop me rolling up my sleeve.


  • #7976
    Pandiculation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Pandiculation


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I think at this stage the dogs on the street know the 40 - 49 age group is getting Janssen

    The government have been doing soft drops with this info to the media for days

    It could actually be something like 45-49 for J&J.
    The demographics here are not evenly spread amongst age groups and when you get to about 1979 onwards the number of people increases quite a bit.

    There was a very high birthrate around 1979-1984 and those people haven't emigrated in the same numbers as previous generations may have.

    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp3oy/cp3/assr/

    If you go to the 2016 profile, don't forget to add 5 years. So the 36 band is now the 41 band, which is the widest on the whole graph.

    There are significantly fewer people in their early 30s than in their early 40s for example and it starts to widen out again as you get into what are now the teenage years.

    Basically if you're born from about 1976 to about 1986 in Ireland you're a 'boomer'.
    The population spread is totally different to the US, where that boom happened after WWII, our baby boom was mid 70s to mid 80s.

    I think a lot of people are just assuming every age step is a similar number of people. That's just not the case at all. It will seem slower though the younger 50s and through the 40s to mid 30s and then very fast through the 20s as there are just fewer people until you start to hit about age 20 (remember you need to add 5 years for this as the data is from 2016)

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  • #7977
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Is Croke Park vaccinating yet?


  • #7978
    Pandiculation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Pandiculation


    (Added 5 years to the 2016 data)

    Ages as at 2021

    40 yrs 81545
    41 yrs 83196
    42 yrs 77184
    43 yrs 74681
    44 yrs 72815

    40-44: 389421

    45 yrs 73414
    46 yrs 71974
    47 yrs 71172
    48 yrs 71288
    49 yrs 69612

    45-49 : 357460

    Total 40-49: 746881

    If anyone would like to match those up to J&J / Janssen availability and Pfizer/BioNTech & Moderna for the younger cohort. How does that fit?


  • #7979
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    pc7 wrote: »
    Is Croke Park vaccinating yet?

    Yes, I passed it on Sunday and it was up and running. Signs everywhere around the area.


  • #7980
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,181 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/it-may-be-possible-to-offer-vaccine-to-everyone-who-wants-one-by-end-of-june-varadkar-40420353.html


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  • #7981
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Yes, I passed it on Sunday and it was up and running. Signs everywhere around the area.

    Brilliant news, wasn’t sure they’d started.


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