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    #1232
    amacca
    Registered Users Posts: 6,780 ✭✭✭amacca


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    None were asked. And when I say none, I mean none.

    It was really cringy this morning on Newstalk. Ciara Kelly asked the TUI rep if they had asked teachers and he said no. To clarify she asked him if they had just come up with this themselves and he responded that yes, they had just come up with it themselves. :eek:

    WTF.....seriously.

    If you are going on the national airwaves you should be a least moderately competent........have justifications/counterpoints


    Anyone that gets handed their ass by the likes of a Ciara Kelly needs to consider if perhaps they are in the wrong line of work......she's not exactly the sharpest tool in the box...were talking mostly populist rabble rousing here.

    do these union guys get media training or any prep on how to make a coherent point and actually put across a reasonable justification/argument

    or even training on how to strategise/pick your battles etc

    its hardly some machiavellian masterplan to look completely incompetent on radio to have the general public sympathising with the ordinary members for having such incompetent representatives is it:D


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    #1233
    History Queen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭History Queen


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    None were asked. And when I say none, I mean none.

    It was really cringy this morning on Newstalk. Ciara Kelly asked the TUI rep if they had asked teachers and he said no. To clarify she asked him if they had just come up with this themselves and he responded that yes, they had just come up with it themselves. :eek:

    Oh jaysus that sounds awful. Who from TUI was it? I know I could listen to the podcast but for the sake of my blood pressure I try to avoid hearing Ciara Kelly's voice.


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    #1234
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Why is everyone focusing on TUI? Ann Piggott from ASTI made a statement about it early yesterday, before TUI.


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    #1235
    History Queen
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    Ophelia Modern Firehouse wrote: »
    Why is everyone focusing on TUI? Ann Piggott from ASTI made a statement about it early yesterday, before TUI.

    I think Aodhan O Riordan was advocating for it also. From what I've seen on social media it seems the TUI rep did a poor job of selling it as anything other than teachers looking for longer holidays, thus opening the gates to teacher bashing and providing them with further "proof" of our inate laziness and selfishness.

    ^i haven't heard it myself but that's the social media reaction


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    #1236
    r93kaey5p2izun
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    History Queen wrote: »
    I think Aodhan O Riordan was advocating for it also. From what I've seen on social media it seems the TUI rep did a poor job of selling it as anything other than teachers looking for longer holidays, thus opening the gates to teacher bashing and providing them with further "proof" of our inate laziness and selfishness.

    ^i haven't heard it myself but that's the social media reaction

    Yeah, I understand the criticism of his performance but not the implication that it is something only the TUI are proposing - ASTI got there first.


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    #1237
    Smacruairi
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    Ophelia Modern Firehouse wrote: »
    Yeah, I understand the criticism of his performance but not the implication that it is something only the TUI are proposing - ASTI got there first.

    Where, genuinely curious, I didn't hear asti asking for it at all other than apparently the president commenting on a radio show.


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    #1238
    clunked
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    Dosen't matter. Not the battle to be fighting now and the TUI looked foolish


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    #1239
    km79
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    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/government-issues-no-homework-day-for-all-children-in-ireland-39765585.html

    She is wasted as Minister
    She should join the JCT with brainwaves like this
    So out of touch with reality it’s frightening

    “She is a teacher it will be grand “
    It’s going well alright


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    #1240
    wirelessdude01
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    km79 wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/government-issues-no-homework-day-for-all-children-in-ireland-39765585.html

    She is wasted as Minsiter
    She should join the JCT with brainwaves like this
    So out of touch with reality it’s frightening

    “She is a teacher it will be grand “
    It’s going well alright

    What populist bu!!****.


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    #1241
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    I’m sorry what? She knows that a load of primary schools did no homework for a period of time already? And that we can not give homework at any time? What the actual....


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    #1242
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    km79 wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/government-issues-no-homework-day-for-all-children-in-ireland-39765585.html

    She is wasted as Minsiter
    She should join the JCT with brainwaves like this
    So out of touch with reality it’s frightening

    “She is a teacher it will be grand “
    It’s going well alright

    Oh my God. Oh. My. God. Isn't well for her that she has the time to come up with this sh1t. LOL.


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    #1243
    RealJohn
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    km79 wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/government-issues-no-homework-day-for-all-children-in-ireland-39765585.html

    She is wasted as Minsiter
    She should join the JCT with brainwaves like this
    So out of touch with reality it’s frightening

    “She is a teacher it will be grand “
    It’s going well alright
    What absolute nonsense. Who thought this was sensible? And before some passer by steps in for a kick, I don’t care about them having a day off homework. It’s that the government is now interfering directly in how every teacher runs their class. Absolute joke.


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    #1244
    mirrorwall14
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    RealJohn wrote: »
    What absolute nonsense. Who thought this was sensible? And before some passer by steps in for a kick, I don’t care about them having a day off homework. It’s that the government is now interfering directly in how every teacher runs their class. Absolute joke.

    Like she knows we can give no homework when ever we want?!! 😂


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    #1245
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Hey Norma, I never give homework anyway, so can I get a voucher for something else instead?


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    #1246
    Polka_Dot
    Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Polka_Dot


    "In an interview with Seamus the Dog, Ms Foley says: It’s a golden ticket and this is how it’s going to work."

    Is this Waterford Whispers?


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    #1247
    scrubs33
    Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭scrubs33


    In an interview with Seamus the dog...oh my good sweet Jesus..


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    #1248
    wirelessdude01
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    Wonder how much the adviser was paid to come up this because Norma sure as he'll didn't come up with it herself.


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    #1249
    itrip
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    amacca wrote: »
    WTF.....seriously.

    If you are going on the national airwaves you should be a least moderately competent........have justifications/counterpoints


    Anyone that gets handed their ass by the likes of a Ciara Kelly needs to consider if perhaps they are in the wrong line of work......she's not exactly the sharpest tool in the box...were talking mostly populist rabble rousing here.

    do these union guys get media training or any prep on how to make a coherent point and actually put across a reasonable justification/argument

    or even training on how to strategise/pick your battles etc

    its hardly some machiavellian masterplan to look completely incompetent on radio to have the general public sympathising with the ordinary members for having such incompetent representatives is it:D

    In comparison to the nursing unions reps who are always well versed, coherent and well able to deal with the media, our teachers union reps always come across as ill prepared and rarely have facts to back up statements.
    Having 2 unions at second level really is a gift to govt...is it time for one all inclusive second level union..


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    #1250
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    7 more teaching days from tomorrow!!

    Any student or staff member deemed a close contact from tomorrow onwards will be self isolating on Christmas day :(

    Stay especially safe this week everyone


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    #1251
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Anyone finishing up today? We are here until close of business Tuesday


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    #1252
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Open until Tuesday but I’m very high risk working from home. We’ve pulled my son from primary school for Monday/Tuesday. We’ve been lucky so far but if I can avoid that ‘your child...’ text over Christmas I will


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    #1253
    2011abc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭2011abc


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Anyone finishing up today? We are here until close of business Tuesday

    Nobody finishes till Tuesday ,that’s what we’ve been told by our overlords .


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    #1254
    TheValeyard
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    Open until 1pm Tuesday.

    Fair few won't be in as they are visiting family over Christmas.

    It will be a Netflix n Disney+ day. Just seen the Mighty Ducks is on. Havent seen that in years. Totally watching it.

    The usual email from management about working to the bell until the end of day with academic work will be promptly ignored.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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    #1255
    amacca
    Registered Users Posts: 6,780 ✭✭✭amacca


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Open until 1pm Tuesday.

    Fair few won't be in as they are visiting family over Christmas.

    It will be a Netflix n Disney+ day. Just seen the Mighty Ducks is on. Havent seen that in years. Totally watching it.

    The usual email from management about working to the bell until the end of day with academic work will be promptly ignored.

    I used to think to myself Ive no problem doing that if you have a means of enforcing discipline via proper consequences etc etc


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    #1256
    solerina
    Registered Users Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭solerina


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Anyone finishing up today? We are here until close of business Tuesday

    Snap...we can’t even get a half day on Tuesday !!


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    #1257
    Treppen
    Registered Users Posts: 4,566 ✭✭✭Treppen


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Open until 1pm Tuesday.

    Fair few won't be in as they are visiting family over Christmas.

    It will be a Netflix n Disney+ day. Just seen the Mighty Ducks is on. Havent seen that in years. Totally watching it.

    The usual email from management about working to the bell until the end of day with academic work will be promptly ignored.

    It certainly is dragging out isn't it.

    Conversely , we've been told NOT to work on Tuesday (unless it's exam years Yadda Yadda ). Instead were showing videos the TY students made. Also TYs are having a Christmas market thing outdoors for the Monday so that should be nice.

    This half-week going and coming back is a right pain.


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    #1258
    2011abc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭2011abc


    Treppen wrote: »
    It certainly is dragging out isn't it.

    Conversely , we've been told NOT to work on Tuesday (unless it's exam years Yadda Yadda ). Instead were showing videos the TY students made. Also TYs are having a Christmas market thing outdoors for the Monday so that should be nice.

    This half-week going and coming back is a right pain.


    Sure it will shorten the week we return but fifth seems early


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    #1259
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users Posts: 8,418 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    2011abc wrote: »
    Sure it will shorten the week we return but fifth seems early

    Ye are back the 5th? Thought every school returns on the 6th as per standardised school calendar.


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    #1260
    2011abc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭2011abc


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Ye are back the 5th? Thought every school returns on the 6th as per standardised school calendar.


    Oh maybe it is ...


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    #1261
    RealJohn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    Sorry to bump this at this time of year, but would anyone be able to point me in the direction of any official guidelines on mask breaks in secondary schools. I’ve been looking and I can’t seem to find any guidance on mask breaks from official sources. Plenty on wearing masks, but nothing on taking them off.
    Thanks in advance.


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