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Samsung TVs are a completely different league all right
I love their simple remote, but that's about it. They will even put different panes - sometimes IPS, sometimes VA panel, in exactly same TV model. You never know what you get with Samsung, much worse than LG all right.
I am in between Samsungs lowest rung (TU7000) and an Oled Impossible to tell which panel the Sammys have until you get it alright.
Currently I am using a 27 inch 4k LG IPS monitor as the tv. The colours are great on it but the ips glow and just general greyness is absolutely infuriating tbh0 -
gaming_needs90 wrote: »Do you have any issues with the brightness of the tv? OLED's cannot get nearly as bright as most tvs when it comes bright full picture scenes. How does it fair in daylight watching something?
No problem with that, it is an overblown complain IMHO.
OLEDs can get to approximately ~750 nits of brightness, that it perfectly usable in a very bright room.gaming_needs90 wrote: »I am in between Samsungs lowest rung (TU7000) and an Oled Impossible to tell which panel the Sammys have until you get it alright.
I had the NU7400. My first impressions were very good: I got a good VA panel with great uniformity. Decent picture quality it had. I also loved the smart solutions to guide cables through the stand and in the grooves on the back of the TV. Better ergonomy of the OS, fantastic remote with much bigger device database than in the LG that replaced it. Built-in Steam client was another plus.
But.... It wouldn't install any apps, because it didn't have any capacity left. From the box! (https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/tv/apps-storage-space-issue/td-p/808085). Had to send it back, it was unusable.0 -
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Being an electronics geek.. sound has surprisingly not been something I cared about. Up until very recently, I played PS5 through TV speakers. Now using a headset.
Sound is a weird one, all right. You don't care about it until someday it clicks and you cannot stop caring.
It is also much more difficult to quantify, which means it can easily turn into slippery slope 0 -
Sound is a weird one, all right. You don't care about it until someday it clicks and you cannot stop caring.
It is also much more difficult to quantify, which means it can easily turn into slippery slope
I think there is more effort being put into it now also with the likes of Dolby Atmos being utilised on alot of the new TV shows. Having a good setup really helps create the cinema feel.0 -
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Sound is a weird one, all right. You don't care about it until someday it clicks and you cannot stop caring.
It is also much more difficult to quantify, which means it can easily turn into slippery slope
This is off topic but have people noticed over the last five years or so how voices in movies/tv shows are near inaudible? Its definitely something to do with the encoding for surround, or something like that. I had to get a soundbar for an old tv just to make it a bit better. Even then I always still had to play around with the EQ so I could properly hear the voices and not turn on subtitles!
I have noticed it everywhere lately, especially on Netflix :mad: It totally ruins the experience0 -
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gaming_needs90 wrote: »This is off topic but have people noticed over the last five years or so how voices in movies/tv shows are near inaudible? Its definitely something to do with the encoding for surround, or something like that. I had to get a soundbar for an old tv just to make it a bit better. Even then I always still had to play around with the EQ so I could properly hear the voices and not turn on subtitles!
I have noticed it everywhere lately, especially on Netflix :mad: It totally ruins the experience
Yes. The mixing recently became unbearable, the side tracks are far too laud.
That's why I am running a separate centre speaker that's 3dB hot compared to what the calibration says. Makes the dialogue stand out and easier to understand.
Side note: higher end Yamaha AVRs have a very nice DSP program called Dialog Level Adjustment. It is smarter than just upping the volume of centre track (what most of the AVR do), but identifying where the dialogue is and bumping only that.Are people actually using this with the built-in speakers?
Some are - the LG OLEDs have surprisingly capable speakers. The response curve is reasonably flat at 80 dB SPL - they only lack bass below 80Hz. If only LG added one option and allowed to use built-in speakers with volume controlled audio-out (you can have volume controlled audio-out, but not at the same time as the speakers or functional internal speakers, but with audio-out at full volume). You could then connect a wired sub - it would make a setup that seriously kicks ass, sounds better than any soundbar < €300, have no compatibility and delay issues, takes minimal space and be very tidy - all at the same time.LG soundbar works great for me with atmos etc. Note this only works over hdmi, it won't work over optical or wireless. Works fine from native apps. When playing from pc need to change some options to enable pass-through.
That's surprising cause LG soundbards are not the best when it comes to dialogue clarity. The dialogue channel in virtually all of them (exp. SN9YG) have a massive dip where our hearing is most sensitive or slightly above that, like around 4.5kHz. One can easily hear it, but maybe you haven't compared it to anything else
Ignorance is a bliss in that case 
With my hatred for Samsung TVs, they IMHO make surprisingly nice soundbars.0 -
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gaming_needs90 wrote: »This is off topic but have people noticed over the last five years or so how voices in movies/tv shows are near inaudible? Its definitely something to do with the encoding for surround, or something like that. I had to get a soundbar for an old tv just to make it a bit better. Even then I always still had to play around with the EQ so I could properly hear the voices and not turn on subtitles!
This is a combination of issues.
- TV's becoming super thin, which means very small speakers which are either downward firing or back firing, neither are ideal *
- More and more content coming specifically mixed for 5.1 or the likes of Dolby Atmos which then don't mix well down to such poor stereo speakers.
This makes at least a cheap surround bar a most for most TV's
* Though I was very pleasantly surprised by the quality of the LG OLED's speakers, their AI sound thing actually works quiet well. Fine for day to day watching, though I still went and got a nice soundbar to really make the most of it.Outkast_IRE wrote: »More marketing bull . There is barely any widely accessible 4k content. Its generally accepted for 8k to see any benefit the screen is massive and you need to be sitting up against it otherwise the human eye will not even register it.
I would have agreed with you up until about a year or so ago. But it has really changed in the past year and now there is loads of 4k and even more importantly IMO HDR content.
Netflix, Disney+, Apple TV, Now TV, Amazon Prime are all pumping out loads of 4k/HDR content.
And of course the PS5/XSX with 4k games + UHD bluray discs.
Of course if you mostly watch live TV, then yes, you are right, there isn't much 4k there. But personally I can't stand live TV and all the ads any more and other then the odd match and maybe the news from time to time, all my watching is the above streaming services.
Again that is why I'd say if you are buying a TV like this, you should also be budgeting to sub to the various streaming services + UHD to make the most of the TV.
As an aside I dropped Sky years ago (use saorview + freesat instead for live TV) and the above streaming services cost less then a Sky package, with better content, in 4k/HDR and no ads, vastly better value IMO. I think Sky is only worth it for sports fans.With my hatred for Samsung TVs, they IMHO make surprisingly nice soundbars.
Yep, that is why I have paired my LG C9 with a Samsung Q950T soundbar. Incredible sound.
Though it definitely has it's own annoyances:
- Power cables are too short
- No auto calibration of the speakers, poor for such an expensive soundbar in this day and age.
- Poorly positioned screen
- A pain in the hole to adjust the audio levels, etc.
- Very poor app with very limited functionality and info there.
Having said that it sounds fantastic and it looks like they have fixed some of these issues in the new models about to be released.0 -
This is a combination of issues.
- TV's becoming super thin, which means very small speakers which are either downward firing or back firing, neither are ideal *
- More and more content coming specifically mixed for 5.1 or the likes of Dolby Atmos which then don't mix well down to such poor stereo speakers.
This makes at least a cheap surround bar a most for most TV's
I'll allow myself to disagree.
This is a result of poor sound levels, too much effects, too little dialogue. It sells - because at first it looks more exciting. I am often pressed to hear the dialogue while listening on a full-blown Home Cinema setup - hence the ridiculously overexposed centre channel.I would have agreed with you up until about a year or so ago. But it has really changed in the past year and now there is loads of 4k and even more importantly IMO HDR content.
Even if there was abundance of 8K content, it still would be completely pointless. We simply cannot see the difference! Our eyes don't have the angular resolution to see the difference between 4K and 8K when you have whole screen in your vision. Even 4K is often pushing it, but in some scenarios there will be marginal difference (not worth the bandwidth and effort in my personal opinion tough).
High Dynamic Range, Wide Color Gamut, High Refresh Rate - those are things we can see. 8K - nah.Yep, that is why I have paired my LG C9 with a Samsung Q950T soundbar. Incredible sound.
Though it definitely has it's own annoyances:
- Power cables are too short
Yet you can replace them with longer ones - AFAIR those are regular 8-style cables. With LG you can't 0 -
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Even if there was abundance of 8K content, it still would be completely pointless.
I agree on 8k, the comment I was replying to said there isn't much 4k content, I was saying that there is now lots of 4k and more importantly HDR content. So a good time to jump into 4k/HDR now.
I was late to 4k compared to many, but then I had a lovely Pioneer Kuro, so it was only worth jumping when a good enough TV came along to better it and enough 4k/HDR content. I'll probably be just as late to 8k.Yet you can replace them with longer ones - AFAIR those are regular 8-style cables. With LG you can't
Sort of, they are L shaped figure 8, but a shorter length on the end then normal, so I had to buy specialist expensive cables specifically designed for it.
For the TV, I always use a high quality surge protector extension anyway, so no issue there 0 -
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