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CONTIGUOUS ELEVATIONS requested by Planning

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  • 11-05-2021 1:08pm
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    PMBC
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    Planning have referred back application for a small domestic side extension (4m. long, set back from building line and not extending the overall length) to a very large detached house with need for contiguous elevations. House being extended is c. 30 m long and neighbouring houses are also large detached.
    Is the planners interest the side elevation of the house on the same side as extension - a guess?
    Would planning ever accept a photomontage of the combined elevations professionally done since it will be difficult to get access to the two neighbouring houses?


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    sydthebeat
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    when you say "referred back" do you mean at Further Information stage, or they've invalidated the application?


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    PMBC
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    Invalidated, Syd.


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    PMBC
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    Invalidated, Syd.:o


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    sydthebeat
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    then a photomontage wont suffice, you will need to include contiguous elevations to a metric scale.

    if you dont have access to physically measure the property, check to see if theres a planning application on the property where you may be able to get dimensions.

    otherwise just try to scale it as best you can from eye.


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    PMBC
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    Yes thanks. Found an old set of drawings on original planning file at 1/500 so I can use them after checking on site for new windows etc. Its hard to see much detail at that scale!!


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    Gumbo
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    PMBC wrote: »
    Planning have referred back application for a small domestic side extension (4m. long, set back from building line and not extending the overall length) to a very large detached house with need for contiguous elevations. House being extended is c. 30 m long and neighbouring houses are also large detached.
    Is the planners interest the side elevation of the house on the same side as extension - a guess?
    Would planning ever accept a photomontage of the combined elevations professionally done since it will be difficult to get access to the two neighbouring houses?
    PMBC wrote: »
    Invalidated, Syd.

    Yes completely normal.
    Streetscape or contiguous elevations always required even for the smallest of developments.

    Montage no good as it has to be scaled as per the other drawings.


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    Gumbo
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    PMBC wrote: »
    Yes thanks. Found an old set of drawings on original planning file at 1/500 so I can use them after checking on site for new windows etc. Its hard to see much detail at that scale!!

    1/500 won’t suffice for your elevations. So just be aware of that.


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    PMBC
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    The contiguous elevations used in the original planning application for the house in 2014 were 1/500. Why would that change?


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    Gumbo
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    PMBC wrote: »
    The contiguous elevations used in the original planning application for the house in 2014 were 1/500. Why would that change?

    Normally 1/500 is the max for site plans.
    Site layout plan (six copies): The scale should not be less than 1:500. The site should be marked in red showing all relevant features

    https://www.dublincity.ie/residential/planning/planning-applications/make-planning-application/planning-process-application/about-planning-process-application

    I guess it could vary by council.
    Max ive ever done is 1/100.
    7. What information must be included in a valid planning application?
    In general, a valid planning application must always include:
    copies of public notices; (newspaper notice and site notice) (See Questions 13 & 14); the name and address of the applicant, the area and location of the land or structure concerned and the legal interest of the applicant;
    all the required plans, maps and drawings and a schedule listing the plans, maps and drawings;
    a location map (minimum scale 1:1000); site or layout plans (minimum scale 1:500); other plans and elevations of proposals; (minimum scale 1:200) (except for outline permission);
    a plan showing the position on the land where the site notice has been erected;
    the appropriate fee; and
    six copies of plans and maps. In the case of protected structures or proposed protected structures, ten copies are usually required.


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    PMBC
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    Permission granted although contiguous at 1/200



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    Gumbo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117753724#Comment_117753724

    1/200 is allowable for the elevation.



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