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Will the Rovers ever Return? Your pub megathread, Part 2 - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,252 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Everyone salivating at the thoughts of the pubs open here outdoors in a month.

    Pubs open in England indoors next Monday. Makes you think.

    Yeah, our nearest neighbours who are 6 weeks ahead of us in vaccinations are 6 weeks ahead of us in reopening. It's a conspiracy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,252 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Yep it's a sad state of affairs what us Irish people have been forced into accepting. We have to be good boys & girls for June or we wont get our indoor pints

    No way will they let outdoor and indoor open together here

    By all means lay out your alternative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,320 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    By all means lay out your alternative.

    Outdoor dining open from the 24th May with table service, limited numbers, last orders 11pm Mon-Thurs/12pm (Fri/Sat/Sun)

    Indoor dining permitted to open from 7th June with table service, limited numbers and last orders 11pm/12pm

    Mid-june/early July- start to trial nightclubs/discos and later closing hours for the weekends (1am/1.30am last orders)

    Government should be trying to get all of hospitality staff back to work as soon as possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,252 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Outdoor dining open from the 24th May with table service, limited numbers, last orders 11pm Mon-Thurs/12pm (Fri/Sat/Sun)

    Indoor dining permitted to open from 7th June with table service, limited numbers and last orders 11pm/12pm

    Mid-june/early July- start to trial nightclubs/discos and later closing hours for the weekends (1am/1.30am last orders)

    And where do you get the data to ensure it's safe to move to the next stage with only 2 weeks between them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,730 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Outdoor dining open from the 24th May with table service, limited numbers, last orders 11pm Mon-Thurs/12pm (Fri/Sat/Sun)

    Indoor dining permitted to open from 7th June with table service, limited numbers and last orders 11pm/12pm

    Mid-june/early July- start to trial nightclubs/discos and later closing hours for the weekends (1am/1.30am last orders)

    Government should be trying to get all of hospitality staff back to work as soon as possible


    Sounds like the Government's plan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,320 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    And where do you get the data to ensure it's safe to move to the next stage with only 2 weeks between them?

    The same as the data that's been used now ? Which tbf seems to vaccination numbers only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,252 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    The same as the data that's been used now ? Which tbf seems to vaccination numbers only

    Not really though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    I really am looking forward to going into a wet pub, sitting on a high stoll and have a pint while watching some live sport.. Its so close I can almost taste it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I really am looking forward to going into a wet pub, sitting on a high stoll and have a pint while watching some live sport.. Its so close I can almost taste it..

    You wont be sitting at the bar until September at the earliest. Being realistic probably 2022. Table service bollixololy for the foreseeable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    You wont be sitting at the bar until September at the earliest. Being realistic probably 2022. Table service bollixololy for the foreseeable.

    all depends on the pub! Cant see anyone inspecting any restrictions past August.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    And where do you get the data to ensure it's safe to move to the next stage with only 2 weeks between them?

    Just look at England.

    Or look at all the places open outdoors already doing takeaway pints or people gathering in parks etc.

    It's blindingly obvious that outdoors is happening already and cases are not rising. We don't need data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I really am looking forward to going into a wet pub, sitting on a high stoll and have a pint while watching some live sport.. Its so close I can almost taste it..

    Christ almighty can people stop saying 'Wet' Pub. Its just Pub!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Christ almighty can people stop saying 'Wet' Pub. Its just Pub!

    Except they're all dry at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,252 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Just look at England.

    Or look at all the places open outdoors already doing takeaway pints or people gathering in parks etc.

    It's blindingly obvious that outdoors is happening already and cases are not rising. We don't need data.

    Look at England who are leaving 6 weeks between outdoor and indoor? Fantastic we're agreed then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Look at England who are leaving 6 weeks between outdoor and indoor? Fantastic we're agreed then.

    We've already had over a month of outdoor, it's been going on since Easter.

    Look again at England, how are their cases going after 6 weeks of outdoor? Any red flags being raised?

    Are they deferring indoor?

    Answer is no.

    You need to accept the era of the covideers is over.

    The rest of us have moved on, its time for you to do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    You wont be sitting at the bar until September at the earliest. Being realistic probably 2022. Table service bollixololy for the foreseeable.


    How is that being realistic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,252 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    We've already had over a month of outdoor, it's been going on since Easter.

    Look again at England, how are their cases going after 6 weeks of outdoor? Any red flags being raised?

    Are they deferring indoor?

    Answer is no.

    Grand, so we know 6 weeks is a safe gap.
    You need to accept the era of the covideers is over.

    The rest of us have moved on, its time for you to do the same.

    "hey, our nearest neighbours opened outdoors when they reached a certain % of vaccinations, and left a 6 week gap between outdoor and indoor and that seems to have been safe and successful, maybe we should do the same"

    "You want to stay locked down forever"

    Boards logic 101


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Grand, so we know 6 weeks is a safe gap.



    "hey, our nearest neighbours opened outdoors when they reached a certain % of vaccinations, and left a 6 week gap between outdoor and indoor and that seems to have been safe and successful, maybe we should do the same"

    "You want to stay locked down forever"

    Boards logic 101

    Outdoor and indoor is like comparing apples and oranges. Why are you trying to draw a correlation at all.

    Outdoor is open a month already, why not make it official.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭MOR316


    You wont be sitting at the bar until September at the earliest. Being realistic probably 2022. Table service bollixololy for the foreseeable.

    I sat at the bar in a few places last year, watching football matches...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Outdoor and indoor is like comparing apples and oranges. Why are you trying to draw a correlation at all.

    Outdoor is open a month already, why not make it official.


    It only a month in very very few places, i've travelled around my county a fair bit in recent weeks and honestly havent seen one pub serving takeaway pints, im sure there are some but ive not seen or heard of any.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭ingo1984


    It only a month in very very few places, i've travelled around my county a fair bit in recent weeks and honestly havent seen one pub serving takeaway pints, im sure there are some but ive not seen or heard of any.

    Last Sunday my local that does takeaway pints had people who brought their own portable foldable chairs were sitting in the car park, with their coats on having pints. Car park is also shared with a pharmacy and centra, but also a kids playground beside it. Thought it was quite pathetic to be honest. Why bother? Not just drink in your own back garden?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    How is that being realistic?

    Because everything we have done has been with an "abundance of caution". Ultra conservative decision making. The pubs will be the same.

    Do you think Tony wants people at bars waiting for pints?

    Absolutely no way will the pubs be like 2019 this year. Well the regulations that will be brought in wont allow it. It'll be up to the land landlord to decide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,320 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Because everything we have done has been with an "abundance of caution". Ultra conservative decision making. The pubs will be the same.

    Do you think Tony wants people at bars waiting for pints?

    Absolutely no way will the pubs be like 2019 this year. Well the regulations that will be brought in wont allow it. It'll be up to the land landlord to decide.

    Dr Tony has changed, Wasn't he on about Electric Picnic happening this year

    Still hard to trust him and NPHET as well as our wally's in the Government


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Dr Tony has changed, Wasn't he on about Electric Picnic happening this year

    Still hard to trust him and NPHET as well as our wally's in the Government

    Tony might have won a few battles over the past year, but he has the lost the war. The abstinence drive fell short, and I'm not the least bit sorry it failed. As well as any lofty social engineering notions of introducing continental-style drinking, "al fresco" my back passage. The traditional pub will rebound, it is deeply embedded in our culture and cannot be eradicated overnight.

    Encountered my local publican yesterday, he has ploughed his remaining few bob into jazzing up the interior...a simple canopy suffices for temporary beer garden squeeze. It's all systems go in a few weeks time, and by July it will be a case of "Tony who?". Demand very much there, car parks were hotspots for takeaway pints & chatter over the weekend. Punters are itching to embrace a bit of normality again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    Belgium, an EU country that we have on our MHQ list will open it's indoor bars at least a month before us. But hey follow the science..... https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...avirus-global/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    Tony might have won a few battles over the past year, but he has the lost the war. The abstinence drive fell short, and I'm not the least bit sorry it failed. As well as any lofty social engineering notions of introducing continental-style drinking, "al fresco" my back passage. The traditional pub will rebound, it is deeply embedded in our culture and cannot be eradicated overnight.

    Encountered my local publican yesterday, he has ploughed his remaining few bob into jazzing up the interior...a simple canopy suffices for temporary beer garden squeeze. It's all systems go in a few weeks time, and by July it will be a case of "Tony who?". Demand very much there, car parks were hotspots for takeaway pints & chatter over the weekend. Punters are itching to embrace a bit of normality again.

    yeah i think by sound of this new Tony that hes lost the will for the fight to kill off alchool and pubs. he knows whats coming. thats why i think restrictions with outdoor drinking will be very much for show, they will have normality back as quick as they can , cant see anywhere outside of famous urban landmark pubs being inspected for pure 6 1 news tokenism. id say when they open on june 7th normalacy will come in within 2-3 weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,730 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    yeah i think by sound of this new Tony that hes lost the will for the fight to kill off alchool and pubs. he knows whats coming. thats why i think restrictions with outdoor drinking will be very much for show, they will have normality back as quick as they can , cant see anywhere outside of famous urban landmark pubs being inspected for pure 6 1 news tokenism. id say when they open on june 7th normalacy will come in within 2-3 weeks


    I don't think that's it. The vaccines roll out is going to make opening up safely possible for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    Belgium, an EU country that we have on our MHQ list will open it's indoor bars at least a month before us. But hey follow the science..... https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...avirus-global/

    There is no science in comparing outdoor to indoor and saying wait 3 weeks.

    Last summer there was no outdoor just straight to indoor.

    Retail is going from click and collect to indoor in just one week.

    Twice we were told to spend €9 on food to be safe but now it seems we don't need food to be safe.

    These are all standard plays from the covideers handbook and each mire pathethic than the next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    ingo1984 wrote: »
    Last Sunday my local that does takeaway pints had people who brought their own portable foldable chairs were sitting in the car park, with their coats on having pints. Car park is also shared with a pharmacy and centra, but also a kids playground beside it. Thought it was quite pathetic to be honest. Why bother? Not just drink in your own back garden?

    Each to their own, if it's not for you just keep walking, nothing pathetic about it. You can't get real pints in your back garden and obviously some people might just want something different to sitting at home another weekend.

    Maybe they just did it to show abut of support to their local publican.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Belgium, an EU country that we have on our MHQ list will open it's indoor bars at least a month before us. But hey follow the science..... https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...avirus-global/

    Wasn't there riots there the day outdoor opened?


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