Will the Rovers ever Return? Your pub megathread, Part 2 - threadbans in OP

saabsaab

PTH2009 wrote: »

Be some sesh if the ghosts of Alec Higgins, George Best and Phil Lynott joined

They didn't show but Ollie Reed was up for a jar!

PommieBast

snotboogie wrote: »

Smaller countries are not getting squeezed out. This is an absolutely untrue message. Singapore, Qatar, Iceland, UAE, Uruguay, Chile, Bahrain are all way ahead of any country relying on the EU supply. Qatar are only using Pfizer and have given nearly double the number of vaccines given out than we have. Singapore are only using Pfizer and Moderna and are way ahead ahead us. Small, relatively rich countries, out on their own have done the best.

Good luck outbidding that lot.

dominatinMC

saabsaab wrote: »

I wonder have many lost the interest/ability to go out on a rip in the pubs when they open again. Might be a warning but I had a dream that I met Richard Harris in a pub but he wouldn't stay for another pint as he was giving it up for good as it just wasn't the same anymore.

Judging by the scenes in England (albeit outdoor), I'd say that's a firm no.

DessieJames

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Where did you stay up there?

An Air BnB.

PTH2009

5 weeks to go, going to be some June Bank Holiday Monday

brickster69

Deaths up 400% on yesterday in the UK. Boris shut the fu##ing pubs man

https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats/status/1389596942506856451

DessieJames

brickster69 wrote: »

Deaths up 400% on yesterday in the UK. Boris shut the fu##ing pubs man

https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats/status/1389596942506856451

1,946 cases out of a polulation that size is miniscule.

brickster69

DessieJames wrote: »

1,946 cases out of a polulation that size is miniscule.

Was a joke :pac::pac:

DessieJames

brickster69 wrote: »

Was a joke :pac::pac:

ah right ok :pac:

PTH2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_OEU4CvCek

Those were the days, let's hope scenes like these return before the end of the year

Dickie10

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_OEU4CvCek

Those were the days, let's hope scenes like these return before the end of the year

no they wont, didnt you know the youth of today hate nightclubs and drinking they rather going to the gym and cafes in the evening sun, before going home to netflix and chill by 10pm. all the pubs and nightclubs will be shut this time next year.

thank god we wont have bother social distancing or queing to get into any few pubs that are left to open in 5 weeks time.

thesandeman

DessieJames wrote: »

An Air BnB.

Good Gaelic name.

UI_Paddy

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_OEU4CvCek

Those were the days, let's hope scenes like these return before the end of the year

Those were the days alright. Can't say I see them returning by the end of the year, but hopefully sometime in 2022.

W123-80's

Dickie10 wrote: »

no they wont, didnt you know the youth of today hate nightclubs and drinking they rather going to the gym and cafes in the evening sun, before going home to netflix and chill by 10pm. all the pubs and nightclubs will be shut this time next year.

thank god we wont have bother social distancing or queing to get into any few pubs that are left to open in 5 weeks time.

I know you are being facetious, but there is alot of truth in what you are saying.

Anecdotally I think it is pretty evident that the pub landscape was changing pre covid and unfortunately 14 months and counting without a proper pub will not have helped this trade.

There is a whole cohort of guys and girls who have had their 18ths and their 21st's with no pubs and clubs. What they never had they won't miss!
I am 42, by the time I was 17 I was a seasoned pub goer. I grew up in pubs in the 80's and I spent my 20's playing ball and doing the standard Saturday night/super Sunday session.
There was no 'Prinks' in those days. We went to the pub at 2pm on a Sunday afternoon and stayed spending money in pubs and clubs until we were turfed out of the nightclub at 3am.
That just doesn't happen these days. I am still involved in both a soccer club and a GAA club. Neither squads spend their Sundays after a game lashing back pints. It's just not the done thing anymore.

Young lads and girls are far more in tune with the outdoors, mental health, fitness and other types of activities to pass the day than drinking pints.

Make no mistake, I want pubs to return. Not gastro pubs, not beer gardens in the pissing rain, not pubs under restrictions just pre covid pubs.
I do think however, that we need to acknowledge the post Covid landscape will have altered consumer demand in terms of hospitality and in particular pubs, especially amongst the generations coming behind us.

The absolute reality is the industry is changing and when todays 20 year olds are 42 they won't miss the pub as much as this 42 year old does.

Dickie10

W123-80's wrote: »

I know you are being facetious, but there is alot of truth in what you are saying.

Anecdotally I think it is pretty evident that the pub landscape was changing pre covid and unfortunately 14 months and counting without a proper pub will not have helped this trade.

There is a whole cohort of guys and girls who have had their 18ths and their 21st's with no pubs and clubs. What they never had they won't miss!
I am 42, by the time I was 17 I was a seasoned pub goer. I grew up in pubs in the 80's and I spent my 20's playing ball and doing the standard Saturday night/super Sunday session.
There was no 'Prinks' in those days. We went to the pub at 2pm on a Sunday afternoon and stayed spending money in pubs and clubs until we were turfed out of the nightclub at 3am.
That just doesn't happen these days. I am still involved in both a soccer club and a GAA club. Neither squads spend their Sundays after a game lashing back pints. It's just not the done thing anymore.

Young lads and girls are far more in tune with the outdoors, mental health, fitness and other types of activities to pass the day than drinking pints.

Make no mistake, I want pubs to return. Not gastro pubs, not beer gardens in the pissing rain, not pubs under restrictions just pre covid pubs.
I do think however, that we need to acknowledge the post Covid landscape will have altered consumer demand in terms of hospitality and in particular pubs, especially amongst the generations coming behind us.

The absolute reality is the industry is changing and when todays 20 year olds are 42 they won't miss the pub as much as this 42 year old does.

i think you are right, although we could see a boom for a year or two in pubs and nightclubs but driven by 28-40 year olds. just looking back on old newspapers online, the amount of nightclubs and pubs with music every weekend friday,saturday and sunday was unreal in 80s,90s and up to 2005. the bust in 2007 changed a lot, we lost hundreds of thousands of people18-25 from our regional towns and villages thats a huge amount. the cheap supermarket drink and drink driving didnt help, also work in ireland is strict now about missing mondays or coming in half cut to work from a nightclub the night before. people didnt seem to mind missing a monday in 80s and 90s and going to pub for the afternoon. all change now. i blame these crazy motgages people have now its killing our economy, people not spending money and instead its all sucked into a black hole to a Dutch bank , its not recycled around the pub, shop local tradesman.

W123-80's

Dickie10 wrote: »

i think you are right, although we could see a boom for a year or two in pubs and nightclubs but driven by 28-40 year olds. just looking back on old newspapers online, the amount of nightclubs and pubs with music every weekend friday,saturday and sunday was unreal in 80s,90s and up to 2005. the bust in 2007 changed a lot, we lost hundreds of thousands of people18-25 from our regional towns and villages thats a huge amount. the cheap supermarket drink and drink driving didnt help, also work in ireland is strict now about missing mondays or coming in half cut to work from a nightclub the night before. people didnt seem to mind missing a monday in 80s and 90s and going to pub for the afternoon. all change now. i blame these crazy motgages people have now its killing our economy, people not spending money and instead its all sucked into a black hole to a Dutch bank , its not recycled around the pub, shop local tradesman.

Agreed, there are alot of mitigating factors over the last 20 years that have resulted in changes to our drinking habits, thankfully the sea change in our attitude to drink driving is a very positive one.

Reading your post, we have definitely matured as a nation over the last 20 years. Like you say back in the 80/90's it was socially acceptable to miss a Monday due to a hangover. :pac: Obviously it still happens today, but not at the scale of 20/30 years ago.

I remember my first job picking glasses in a pub back in 1994. Saturday night was the huge night, at 8.55pm there might be 5 people in the bar. In the following 35 mins up to 9.30pm the place would fill to the rafters and stay full until 1am.
No one really went out early for evening meal and drinks or even just a few early drinks. It was full duck but never before 9pm!
The amount of pints drank between 9pm and 1am used to take my breadth away, it was insane! but that is the way it was. Most people got into their cars and drove home afterwards :eek:
I have a gra for that era of sweaty pubs, more of a rose tinted glasses perspective:p
I can fully understand why the next generation would look at me funny when I explain it to them!

saabsaab

W123-80's wrote: »

Agreed, there are alot of mitigating factors over the last 20 years that have resulted in changes to our drinking habits, thankfully the sea change in our attitude to drink driving is a very positive one.

Reading your post, we have definitely matured as a nation over the last 20 years. Like you say back in the 80/90's it was socially acceptable to miss a Monday due to a hangover. :pac: Obviously it still happens today, but not at the scale of 20/30 years ago.

I remember my first job picking glasses in a pub back in 1994. Saturday night was the huge night, at 8.55pm there might be 5 people in the bar. In the following 35 mins up to 9.30pm the place would fill to the rafters and stay full until 1am.
No one really went out early for evening meal and drinks or even just a few early drinks. It was full duck but never before 9pm!
The amount of pints drank between 9pm and 1am used to take my breadth away, it was insane! but that is the way it was. Most people got into their cars and drove home afterwards :eek:
I have a gra for that era of sweaty pubs, more of a rose tinted glasses perspective:p
I can fully understand why the next generation would look at me funny when I explain it to them!

I remember that too. Some pubs on a big night there wouldn't have standing room as for getting to the bar it was like a scrum.

Dickie10

there was somethiing lovely about it though. i started going out in 2001 the summer i did my Leaving Cert, i never drank underage just waited til i was offically 18 and drank in peace. i would have been very cautious and still am about drinking much or to excess, over the years i would have built up the amount of pints i could drink so now at 37 i would have about 8-9 on a night with maybe a short late on. Before covid i would only miss maybe 3-4 weekends out of 52 without having pints in that region so to go from october 3rd til now without a drop is a fair stint for me. I didnt touch a drop over xmas even. i went from march 7th to August 1st last year without any drink so quite proud of how i just switched off the tap! i woud have literally had pints all 52 saturday nights in most years. Absolutley love the buzz to be honest. I never took it for granted before but most definitley wont now. I always think when heading off around 9pm for a few pints on a saturday night , that this is absoute heaven, i cant help but shudder a little when i would think of some poor bugger in at work at that time!

Ray Donovan

Dickie10 wrote: »

there was somethiing lovely about it though. i started going out in 2001 the summer i did my Leaving Cert, i never drank underage just waited til i was offically 18 and drank in peace. i would have been very cautious and still am about drinking much or to excess, over the years i would have built up the amount of pints i could drink so now at 37 i would have about 8-9 on a night with maybe a short late on. Before covid i would only miss maybe 3-4 weekends out of 52 without having pints in that region so to go from october 3rd til now without a drop is a fair stint for me. I didnt touch a drop over xmas even. i went from march 7th to August 1st last year without any drink so quite proud of how i just switched off the tap! i woud have literally had pints all 52 saturday nights in most years. Absolutley love the buzz to be honest. I never took it for granted before but most definitley wont now. I always think when heading off around 9pm for a few pints on a saturday night , that this is absoute heaven, i cant help but shudder a little when i would think of some poor bugger in at work at that time!

Your view on Saturday night pints is so different to mine. I like a few Friday night pints or Saturday 5 to 8, or Sunday afternoon/early evening. Don’t like Saturday night. Just seems forced and everyone making too much of an effort or something.

saabsaab

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Your view on Saturday night pints is so different to mine. I like a few Friday night pints or Saturday 5 to 8, or Sunday afternoon/early evening. Don’t like Saturday night. Just seems forced and everyone making too much of an effort or something.

Yea, Saturday Night was better if you were younger, as time goes other nights are better. Over time your capacity goes up once 3 or 4 would do but as you get used to it that is just the start.

Dickie10

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Your view on Saturday night pints is so different to mine. I like a few Friday night pints or Saturday 5 to 8, or Sunday afternoon/early evening. Don’t like Saturday night. Just seems forced and everyone making too much of an effort or something.[/QUOT

Really? thats strange i would have a fairly disciplined work life and work hard all week so maybe thats why i love the buzz of saturday nights, i kind of love the hedonism of it all really. its just a lovely escape , i wouldnt be binge britain booze nation stuff now but just love the bit spontaniety of it all. i love the crowds and hustle and bustle i kind of love the galway races type madness of it all, last days of soddom and gemorrah type stuff is great fun at times! i think we will soon see those days again judging by leo i think he must miss it too. i like quiet old man pubs at times too.

Tenzor07

How do you solve a problem like Outdoor "wild" drinking...?

Let the Pubs open for Outdoor service now!


https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0507/1217624-pubs-call-for-earlier-reopening-of-outdoor-hospitality

PTH2009

Tenzor07 wrote: »

How do you solve a problem like Outdoor "wild" drinking...?

Let the Pubs open for Outdoor service now!


https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0507/1217624-pubs-call-for-earlier-reopening-of-outdoor-hospitality

They will try and force stupid rules but what they could implement i don't know ?

Table service and table drinking is imminent and is understandable

New Rules
3 drink per person limit (you get coloured tokens)
The great '90 Mins time limit'

The cowards wont open Indoor because they want to see the Science of outdoor dining which has been proven to be effective but the virus in Ireland is so dangerous we have to wait another month for 'Outdoor only' to reopen

Tenzor07

Tenzor07 wrote: »

How do you solve a problem like Outdoor "wild" drinking...?

Let the Pubs open for Outdoor service now!


https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0507/1217624-pubs-call-for-earlier-reopening-of-outdoor-hospitality

There are a few pubs in my town doing takeout, who can knock enterprising business owners trying to make living.The punter collecting his tall pour can't drink on premises and is moved on down the line. Where to go then, with the social stigma attached to public drinking: "Look at that lad supping away on the park bench". By allowing enough wiggle room for a licenced premises to serve alcohol, government creating a ridiculous catch-22: You can have your tall pour but expect busybodies to stick their snout in and report you. Here's one, either close pubs entirely or open them entirely. None of this tentative pussyfooting about, and then whinging about a problem of their own making. It's time for mature leadership, put faith in struggling publicans to regulate their own environments and take boozing off the street.

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

They will try and force stupid rules but what they could implement i don't know ?

Table service and table drinking is imminent and is understandable

New Rules
3 drink per person limit (you get coloured tokens)
The great '90 Mins time limit'

The cowards wont open Indoor because they want to see the Science of outdoor dining which has been proven to be effective but the virus in Ireland is so dangerous we have to wait another month for 'Outdoor only' to reopen

"makes up scenario and gets mad at government for made up scenario"

The new stuff is great but sometimes you just wanna hear the hits...

PTH2009

Very good points, You almost feel ashamed to be drinking a pint/cans (why pay for a takeaway pint while you could get 4 cans for the same price etc) outside but that's the governments doing in a way by closing access to places

Then the issue of trying to find somewhere for a slash

Did any other country have the option of 'takeaway pints' ?

Degag

PTH2009 wrote: »

They will try and force stupid rules but what they could implement i don't know ?

Table service and table drinking is imminent and is understandable

New Rules
3 drink per person limit (you get coloured tokens)
The great '90 Mins time limit'

The cowards wont open Indoor because they want to see the Science of outdoor dining which has been proven to be effective but the virus in Ireland is so dangerous we have to wait another month for 'Outdoor only' to reopen

Ah jesus will you stop and cop yourself on. You and others seem to love thinking up mad theories to put yereselves into a frenzy.

They are opening up in a month. I'd rather it was indoors like yourself but that will soon follow. I'd hate for there to be a time limit but there certainly wont be any drink limit.

Just stop with the hyperbole. It doesn't do anyone (including yourself) any good.

saabsaab

Time limit not too bad. Could sink 5 or 6 in that 90.

PTH2009

saabsaab wrote: »

Time limit not too bad. Could sink 5 or 6 in that 90.

Suppose its better than rushing a meal and then vomiting it up a few mins later

Kermit.de.frog

Be interesting to see how the interruption to Ireland's drinking culture will play itself out when things reopen. Hard not to think that things have changed.

How many pubs will survive?

How many nightclubs closed for good?