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  • #7382
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    trellheim wrote: »
    Does anyone know when 50-60s will begin receiving appointments ? Even though they began registering Tue last I am unaware of appointments being issued to this group.

    I have a 59 year old family member going for his vaccination in the Raddisson in Limerick/Clare today


  • #7383
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    trellheim wrote: »
    Does anyone know when 50-60s will begin receiving appointments ? Even though they began registering Tue last I am unaware of appointments being issued to this group.

    Few people on here posted that they were in this age group and had gotten appointments within a couple of days of registering


  • #7384
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Flying Fox wrote: »
    The UK system where people can book in for a particular centre and choose from the time slots available makes much more sense.

    There will be issues with people not being able to get away from work or get childcare at certain times of the day. Also people relying on public transport will have a problem getting to some vaccination centres (e.g. in Dublin, the Aviva or Croke Park is much more accessible than Citywest). Our approach is overly restrictive.

    The system in NI is lightyears ahead of what we offer and includes pharmacies as well as MVC which is convenient for everyone. IT needs to be a huge focus in the HSE after this year


  • #7385
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Flying Fox wrote: »
    The UK system where people can book in for a particular centre and choose from the time slots available makes much more sense.

    There will be issues with people not being able to get away from work or get childcare at certain times of the day. Also people relying on public transport will have a problem getting to some vaccination centres (e.g. in Dublin, the Aviva or Croke Park is much more accessible than Citywest). Our approach is overly restrictive.



    City West is for people out that way. Work will accommodate people for it also as makes sense.


    Most people have a family member with a car and it is also on the luas line.


  • #7386
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Flying Fox wrote: »
    The UK system where people can book in for a particular centre and choose from the time slots available makes much more sense.

    There will be issues with people not being able to get away from work or get childcare at certain times of the day. Also people relying on public transport will have a problem getting to some vaccination centres (e.g. in Dublin, the Aviva or Croke Park is much more accessible than Citywest). Our approach is overly restrictive.


    Booking system software is a commodity at this stage and they could have made a better effort. When I registered the text said I would receive 3 to 7 days notice of an appointment, but I have one later today which I received on Saturday, i.e. 2 days. That's not a problem for me, but it could be a problem for some people.


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  • #7387
    trellheim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,169 ✭✭✭trellheim


    ok thanks for that.


  • #7388
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    Booking system software is a commodity at this stage and they could have made a better effort. When I registered the text said I would receive 3 to 7 days notice of an appointment, but I have one later today which I received on Saturday, i.e. 2 days. That's not a problem for me, but it could be a problem for some people.
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    How do you survive when you order something on line and it arrives early!!!!!!!!!!


  • #7389
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭duffman13


    average_runner wrote: »
    `
    How do you survive when you order something on line and it arrives early!!!!!!!!!!

    I would imagine they are at home to take it or it gets delivered to a neighbour :pac:


    You are given an appointment, if it doesnt work ring to reschedule, in the interest of speed, I have no issue with the current process. As the months wind on then there will need to be a change of focus towards convenience. I got less than a days notice as did a lot of my staff but the vast majority of employers will be more than happy to facilitate appointments.


  • #7390
    Gile_na_gile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭Gile_na_gile


    trellheim wrote: »
    ok thanks for that.
    The other thread is good on this, too. [mods: a new one also appeared which should be merged]


  • #7391
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,159 ✭ [Deleted User]


    average_runner wrote: »
    City West is for people out that way. Work will accommodate people for it also as makes sense.


    Most people have a family member with a car and it is also on the luas line.

    I live closer to Citywest than the city centre so could easily get allocated there. If I didn't have a car it would be very difficult for me to get there on public transport.

    I'm nowhere near the Luas line.

    I don't have family members in the area, but if I did, I can hardly expect them to take time off work to drive me to Citywest. They might be able to offer a lift at certain times, but can't just do it at the drop of a hat at the time the HSE randomly allocated.

    Clearly a stone age IT system is the issue, but you should at least be able to change the time or location through the phone line. Yet that's not allowed either.


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  • #7392
    secman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭secman


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Aviva can do about 3K and Helix can do nearly 5K a day. CityWest is at least 2K. Saw Croke Park in use yesterday and it will have 10 booths so I guess that's about 1K a day.

    Citywest has 3 avenues of vaccination booths, i was in the middle avenue and noticed No 13 at the end of the avenue, so they would have close to 40 booths, haven't heard of what numbers they are hitting but from my experience its running like clockwork.


  • #7393
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Flying Fox wrote: »
    I live closer to Citywest than the city centre so could easily get allocated there. If I didn't have a car it would be very difficult for me to get there on public transport.

    I'm nowhere near the Luas line.

    I don't have family members in the area, but if I did, I can hardly expect them to take time off work to drive me to Citywest. They might be able to offer a lift at certain times, but can't just do it at the drop of a hat at the time the HSE randomly allocated.

    Clearly a stone age IT system is the issue, but you should at least be able to change the time or location through the phone line. Yet that's not allowed either.


    They put together a quick system that would work and not cause more delays. Safest option for HSE and wise move given their record



    For the HSE to get this working with time slots, would take them a long time, they aren't the greatest with IT in fairness!!


  • #7394
    penny piper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    I had the astra zenica vaccine yesterday...I seem to have had atlest one strange symtom..idk...but as soon as I sat down in the observation area I seemed to get a metallic taste appear in my mouth ..thankfully it went later in the day.
    My other symtoms since getting the vaccine are ....runny nose...terrible congestion in my head...spaced out feeling (now gone) hot/cold feeling....and extremely sleepy...oh and today my arm is also very very sore/painful to lift.
    Thankfully, I haven't had headaches like I know some people have experienced. My daughter told me to drink plenty of water before I went for the vaccine and after ....maybe that's helped..


  • #7395
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,600 ✭✭✭crossman47


    suttonboi1 wrote: »
    10 mins per jab sounds very slow. I got mine on Sat in the GPs and he went through at least 3, maybe 4, in the 10 minutes I was sitting waiting after my jab.

    Syringe’s all prepared, took him 10 secs to fill it from the vial. I was in the room with him for no more than a minute, job done, very impressed.

    Nobody mentioned 10 mins - it was 12 in an hour i.e. five mins which is fine.


  • #7396
    secman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭secman


    penny piper wrote: »
    I had the astra zenica vaccine yesterday...I seem to have had atlest one strange symtom..idk...but as soon as I sat down in the observation area I seemed to get a metallic taste appear in my mouth ..thankfully it went later in the day.
    My other symtoms since getting the vaccine are ....runny nose...terrible congestion in my head...spaced out feeling (now gone) hot/cold feeling....and extremely sleepy...oh and today my arm is also very very sore/painful to lift.
    Thankfully, I haven't had headaches like I know some people have experienced. My daughter told me to drink plenty of water before I went for the vaccine and after ....maybe that's helped..

    I too got the metallic taste in my mouth, the only other side effects was a 6 hour delrious temperature. Once that passed i was fine bar a slight tenderness in my arm which quickly passed.


  • #7397
    1huge1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭1huge1


    hmmm wrote: »
    Been wondering that myself. The Government should encourage employers to give employees the time off to travel. Anything which discourages vaccinations would be a negative.

    I work for a government agency and we are given one day off for the vaccination.

    Considering I had made it to the GP, got my vaccine and was back at my desk at home within 40mins, I decided I'd take the following day off just in case there was any sde effects.

    For the 2nd dose, I may just take annual leave (not short on it these days...).

    Anecdotally, I have heard of quite a few employers being very flexible regarding vaccines which is good to see.


  • #7398
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,188 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    penny piper wrote: »
    I had the astra zenica vaccine yesterday...I seem to have had atlest one strange symtom..idk...but as soon as I sat down in the observation area I seemed to get a metallic taste appear in my mouth ..thankfully it went later in the day.

    Anxiety maybe? I've noticed that sometimes if I'm anxious about something. Especially if I get a proper fright, I end up with a very strong metallic taste in my mouth afterwards.


  • #7399
    1huge1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭1huge1


    My uncle aged 62 registered online 2 weeks ago and has still not heard anything regarding an appointment, just seeing here than some centres are now giving out appointments to people in their 50s.

    Would it be worth his while ringing the HSE or is it just a case that there is still some people in their 60s waiting for appointments in certain parts of the country (Kinsale in his case).


  • #7400
    suttonboi1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭suttonboi1


    crossman47 wrote: »
    Nobody mentioned 10 mins - it was 12 in an hour i.e. five mins which is fine.

    Please look back at the post I quoted, it’s says “10 mins doesn’t sound unreasonable per jab”

    For the record I think they are doing a fantastic job. From my experience in the GP however it was much quicker that 10 mins per jab or even 5 mins. They were doing at least 3 every 10 mins, not one per 10 mins. That’s all I was arguing, and pointing out that 10 mins per jab was very slow.


  • #7401
    penny piper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    Stark wrote: »
    Anxiety maybe? I've noticed that sometimes if I'm anxious about something. Especially if I get a proper fright, I end up with a very strong metallic taste in my mouth afterwards.

    No, it wasn't anxiety...it was a most strange feeling ... I actually don't know how to describe it....it just seemed to appear...I googled it after because my sister-in-law had her vaccination at the same time and didn't experience that feeling ..and what I found was it was a new side effect that some people seem to be experiencing....idk...thankfully it has gone now...


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  • #7402
    penny piper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    1huge1 wrote: »
    My uncle aged 62 registered online 2 weeks ago and has still not heard anything regarding an appointment, just seeing here than some centres are now giving out appointments to people in their 50s.

    Would it be worth his while ringing the HSE or is it just a case that there is still some people in their 60s waiting for appointments in certain parts of the country (Kinsale in his case).

    I'd say ring the hse....I rang for an appointment saturday morning and was told it would probably be 3 weeks before I got one....got a text later on saturday afternoon and had an appointment for sunday morning...but that was in sligo..


  • #7403
    revelman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭revelman


    1huge1 wrote: »
    My uncle aged 62 registered online 2 weeks ago and has still not heard anything regarding an appointment, just seeing here than some centres are now giving out appointments to people in their 50s.

    Would it be worth his while ringing the HSE or is it just a case that there is still some people in their 60s waiting for appointments in certain parts of the country (Kinsale in his case).

    There was someone on here last night saying that a relative of theirs, who is 58, has been called for a vaccination in an MVC in Cork city this week. I’d wait another couple of days. I’m sure they are still ironing out creases. He will probably be called very soon. If he isn’t called this week, I’d look into it then in case there is a clerical error.


  • #7404
    revelman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭revelman


    penny piper wrote: »
    No, it wasn't anxiety...it was a most strange feeling ... I actually don't know how to describe it....it just seemed to appear...I googled it after because my sister-in-law had her vaccination at the same time and didn't experience that feeling ..and what I found was it was a new side effect that some people seem to be experiencing....idk...thankfully it has gone now...

    Interestingly, it also appears to be a side effect of COVID and long-COVID.


  • #7405
    1huge1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭1huge1


    Thanks for the replies everyone. Hopefully in the next couple days.


  • #7406
    [Deleted User]
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    revelman wrote: »
    There was someone on here last night saying that a relative of theirs, who is 58, has been called for a vaccination in an MVC in Cork city this week. I’d wait another couple of days. I’m sure they are still ironing out creases. He will probably be called very soon. If he isn’t called this week, I’d look into it then in case there is a clerical error.

    Over 50s are getting appointments so yes I’d phone and query this ASAP


  • #7407
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭plodder


    average_runner wrote: »
    They put together a quick system that would work and not cause more delays. Safest option for HSE and wise move given their record



    For the HSE to get this working with time slots, would take them a long time, they aren't the greatest with IT in fairness!!
    How much notice are people getting? There were some stories of people being told to come the following day after receiving the text, which won't work at all for most < 65 's

    Don't want to sound too critical but aside from the system itself which is surely not beyond the capability of developers here, why would self-selected slots cause problems for the HSE?


  • #7408
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    secman wrote: »
    Citywest has 3 avenues of vaccination booths, i was in the middle avenue and noticed No 13 at the end of the avenue, so they would have close to 40 booths, haven't heard of what numbers they are hitting but from my experience its running like clockwork.

    Citywest has 50 booths.


  • #7409
    Deenie78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Deenie78


    I feel like the Irish system gets a lot of grief so thought it might be interesting to share that we're not the only ones not getting it 100% right. I lived in Edinburgh for 9 years and my NHS mail still goes to brother's house over there. I got offered a vaccine for the 16th May, I'm 43 (no health issues) and my brother (48) has not heard anything yet. My friend (46) who also lives over there, and has underlying health conditions has also not heard anything.


  • #7410
    revelman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭revelman


    Deenie78 wrote: »
    I feel like the Irish system gets a lot of grief so thought it might be interesting to share that we're not the only ones not getting it 100% right. I lived in Edinburgh for 9 years and my NHS mail still goes to brother's house over there. I got offered a vaccine for the 16th May, I'm 43 (no health issues) and my brother (48) has not heard anything yet. My friend (46) who also lives over there, and has underlying health conditions has also not heard anything.

    There are people in Germany (!) making similar complaints. Nothing on this scale has been done before. To be honest, I’ve been very impressed by what we are doing here in Ireland. I didn’t expect it to be so good.


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  • #7411
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,188 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    plodder wrote: »
    How much notice are people getting? There were some stories of people being told to come the following day after receiving the text, which won't work at all for most < 65 's

    Don't want to sound too critical but aside from the system itself which is surely not beyond the capability of developers here, why would self-selected slots cause problems for the HSE?

    It'll be staycation season by the time I'm offered an appointment. Will be a pain if I have to drive all the way across the country and back in the middle of a holiday to get it.


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