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revelman · 10-05-2021 09:57AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Yes but a GP surgery is not City West !
No GP surgery could use 1000 doses over a weekend

I misread the initial post. I thought that the poster was saying that CityWest could do 1000 in a day! Thought it was a slight underestimate to say the least!

Turtwig · 10-05-2021 09:59AM

hmmm wrote: »

Plus the other incidental costs, including people having to take time off work to go to and from MVCs. There is the convenience factor to J&J which I think has been completely underplayed, particularly when you get into younger cohorts who may be less bothered about getting the vaccine.

I suspect by the time we get to very low risk under 30 the evidence will be fairly strong that one dose of any vaccine will be enough. Four weeks to build up immunity. The second dose can be delayed indefinitely. With prompt requirements for a timely second dose only for the vulnerable.

Then in winter we can give the under 30s their second dose that will likely cover any of pesky variants, if required.

is_that_so · 10-05-2021 10:00AM

revelman wrote: »

City Hall in Cork did 1,060 jabs yesterday and I’m guessing that CityWest is a bigger operation. Weekends seem to be a bit slower than weekdays.

Aviva can do about 3K and Helix can do nearly 5K a day. CityWest is at least 2K. Saw Croke Park in use yesterday and it will have 10 booths so I guess that's about 1K a day.

timsey tiger · 10-05-2021 10:04AM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

28,420 done on Saturday

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/vaccination-programme-dashboard-as-of-08-may-2021.pdf

Which brings Total from Monday to Saturday to 223103 so they've exceeded the lower end of their target with 1 days data left to be released.

The numbers on the graphic you linked don't add to that, slightly under 28k?

SusanC10 · 10-05-2021 10:05AM

How are things looking now in terms of a timeline for people aged 45-49 ?

GLaDOS · 10-05-2021 10:07AM

timsey tiger wrote: »

The numbers on the graphic you linked don't add to that, slightly under 28k?

Due to some late reporting, numbers given for a particular day and the total cumulative increase (i.e. the difference between Saturday's total and Friday's) usually differ slightly.

So 28K is the difference between Saturday's total and Friday's total, even though slightly less is actually recorded for Saturday.

is_that_so · 10-05-2021 10:08AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

How are things looking now in terms of a timeline for people aged 45-49 ?

June at the earliest as we stand but probably booking on the portal by the end of next week.

Lucas Hood · 10-05-2021 10:09AM

timsey tiger wrote: »

The numbers on the graphic you linked don't add to that, slightly under 28k?

I take the total from Friday report (1,799,190) from Saturdays report (1,827,610) as stuff is updated periodically.

Example Fridays report says 36,280 1st doses were administered on 7/5 whereas Saturdays says 36,327 for 7/5.

if you count just the totals administered for each day on the report you'll miss some numbers.

km79 · 10-05-2021 10:11AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

How are things looking now in terms of a timeline for people aged 45-49 ?

I’d guess registering at some stage next week and getting first dose early June

SusanC10 · 10-05-2021 10:12AM

km79 wrote: »

I’d guess registering at some stage next week and getting first dose early June

Would be great. Nearly there.

km79 · 10-05-2021 10:14AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Would be great. Nearly there.

Yes
I am actually doubling down on my efforts regarding SD etc
It would be an absolute sickener to contract it now after nearly surviving the whole school year !

iamwhoiam · 10-05-2021 10:17AM

It was all very fine sending texts with date and time to the 65 and over .They are likely to be retired and can go anytime .I see an issue when the groups are younger and working and have kids etc .It wont be as easy to leave work or mind kids or be in City West if you work in the airport etc . I wonder how it will pan out then

timsey tiger · 10-05-2021 10:17AM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

I take the total from Friday report (1,799,190) from Saturdays report (1,827,610) as stuff is updated periodically.

Example Fridays report says 36,280 1st doses were administered on 7/5 whereas Saturdays says 36,327 for 7/5.

if you count just the totals administered for each day on the report you'll miss some numbers.

Nice to see consistency in reporting vaccines with the way we report deaths

acer911 · 10-05-2021 10:17AM

salmocab wrote: »

I was talking to a mate who’s partner worked in city west at the weekend and she reckoned she got through about 12 jabs an hour so I’d be surprised if a doctors could get close to 1000 in a day.

It was her first day vaccinating and she was impressed with the setup.

12 jabs seems low considering they have no paperwork or anything to do really - all done by the assistants.

iamwhoiam · 10-05-2021 10:20AM

acer911 wrote: »

12 jabs seems low considering they have no paperwork or anything to do really - all done by the assistants.

In City west the vaccinator went through a few questions too . Person in and jabbed , then clean the area , wash hands and get the dose ready for next person etc

hmmm · 10-05-2021 10:22AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

It was all very fine sending texts with date and time to the 65 and over .They are likely to be retired and can go anytime .I see an issue when the groups are younger and working and have kids etc .It wont be as easy to leave work or mind kids or be in City West if you work in the airport etc . I wonder how it will pan out then

Been wondering that myself. The Government should encourage employers to give employees the time off to travel. Anything which discourages vaccinations would be a negative.

10-05-2021 10:22AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

It was all very fine sending texts with date and time to the 65 and over .They are likely to be retired and can go anytime .I see an issue when the groups are younger and working and have kids etc .It wont be as easy to leave work or mind kids or be in City West if you work in the airport etc . I wonder how it will pan out then

Employers are making plans. My employer has allowed "reasonable time" to leave work for for vaccination once employees inform their supervisor at the earliest opportunity. They also will pay sick leave for a "reasonable period of time" following vaccination should people need - defined as up to 48 hours I believe. Employers should all be supported in making similar provision for their employees

revelman · 10-05-2021 10:24AM

I think it is time for NIAC to revisit the interval between first and second doses for Pfizer. Real world data is showing even better protection after the first dose than initially anticipated. Several major countries have now significantly extended the interval and we are still following the manufacturer’s guidance based on trial data. I think it is time to be a bit less cautious now. Lengthening the interval would speed things up significantly.

Gile_na_gile · 10-05-2021 10:35AM

km79 wrote: »

Yes
I am actually doubling down on my efforts regarding SD etc
It would be an absolute sickener to contract it now after nearly surviving the whole school year !

This is why I am hoping they start to run 40-49 in parallel well before the end of June so that we might transition quickly as all of society opens up again and we and others are left in the middle.

Tim Robbins · 10-05-2021 10:43AM

Ok rang a general HSE Covid vaccine number: 01 240 8746 this morning after getting it via the Community HSE number.

Was told some GPs are doing Cohort 7 some aren't. Your options are:
1. Try other GPs in your area
2. Ring your consultant
3. Wait for the government to contact you for your age based vaccination.

(Just including info here for others in similar situations).

iamwhoiam · 10-05-2021 10:45AM

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Ok rang a general HSE Covid vaccine number: 01 240 8746 this morning after getting it via the Community HSE number.

Was told some GPs are doing Cohort 7 some aren't. Your options are:
1. Try other GPs in your area
2. Ring your consultant
3. Wait for the government to get you.

(Just including info here for others in similar situations).

Did they even tell you which GP are doing it ?
They are throwing the towel in now for cohort 7 . Help yourself cos we aint doing it for you .Disgraceful

salmocab · 10-05-2021 10:48AM

acer911 wrote: »

12 jabs seems low considering they have no paperwork or anything to do really - all done by the assistants.

Well I’d imagine they still need to double check the paper work is for the right person prepare the syringe and clean/disinfect after they have finished. 10 minutes doesn’t sound unreasonable per jab.

Tim Robbins · 10-05-2021 10:53AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Did they even tell you which GP are doing it ?
They are throwing the towel in now for cohort 7 . Help yourself cos we aint doing it for you .Disgraceful

Oh yeah I emailed the Asthma Society. Didn't even get a reply.
I think the least they could have done is made a representation to the government regarding the stress now a lot of cohort 7 and their families are happening. The media is full "Oh isn't it great everything is opening up", Maybe the over 70's won't be going to hospital but Cohort 7 are still in danger.

suttonboi1 · 10-05-2021 10:54AM

salmocab wrote: »

Well I’d imagine they still need to double check the paper work is for the right person prepare the syringe and clean/disinfect after they have finished. 10 minutes doesn’t sound unreasonable per jab.

10 mins per jab sounds very slow. I got mine on Sat in the GPs and he went through at least 3, maybe 4, in the 10 minutes I was sitting waiting after my jab.

Syringe’s all prepared, took him 10 secs to fill it from the vial. I was in the room with him for no more than a minute, job done, very impressed.

El Weirdo · 10-05-2021 10:54AM

Tim Robbins wrote: »

3. Wait for the government to get you.

Poor turn of phrase there. The anti vaxx loons will be all over that.

PCeeeee · 10-05-2021 10:55AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Employers are making plans. My employer has allowed "reasonable time" to leave work for for vaccination once employees inform their supervisor at the earliest opportunity. They also will pay sick leave for a "reasonable period of time" following vaccination should people need - defined as up to 48 hours I believe. Employers should all be supported in making similar provision for their employees

Mine too. And that sounds almost like the wording they used verbatim. ðŸ€”

civdef · 10-05-2021 10:58AM

salmocab wrote: »

Well I’d imagine they still need to double check the paper work is for the right person prepare the syringe and clean/disinfect after they have finished. 10 minutes doesn’t sound unreasonable per jab.

Vaccinator has to confirm patient ID, and check that they have given consent on the COVAX system. They then go through an eligibility questionnaire (allergic reactions, medications, Covid status, other recent vaccinations & pregnancy). Once that is done, draw up the dose while the patient is getting their arm ready, while normally giving a bit of reassurance, then give the injection. After that get rid of the sharps, enter vaccination on the COVAX database, fill out vaccination card and observation time sticker, quickly answer any questions and show patient out- then sanitise chair, hand hygiene and go again.
3-4 minutes turnaround per patient all going well, but any mention of previous allergic reactions or anticoagulants in the questionnaire can increase this a lot. That and long sleeve shirts.

trellheim · 10-05-2021 11:10AM

Does anyone know when 50-60s will begin receiving appointments ? Even though they began registering Tue last I am unaware of appointments being issued to this group.

10-05-2021 11:13AM

The UK system where people can book in for a particular centre and choose from the time slots available makes much more sense.

There will be issues with people not being able to get away from work or get childcare at certain times of the day. Also people relying on public transport will have a problem getting to some vaccination centres (e.g. in Dublin, the Aviva or Croke Park is much more accessible than Citywest). Our approach is overly restrictive.

duffman13 · 10-05-2021 11:16AM

trellheim wrote: »

Does anyone know when 50-60s will begin receiving appointments ? Even though they began registering Tue last I am unaware of appointments being issued to this group.

They have already started depending on centre,Citywest doing some in the 56 year olds from tomorrow

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