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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Where? All 300 odd of them?

    Some of them would need a number of checkpoints a short distance apart on roads that meander in and out of both jurisdictions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Fantastic in Bray yesterday.

    Really got a great sense of joy and optimism. People enjoying themselves and looking forward.
    Damn those Martello cocktails are strong :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    I'd say the covid fanatics are starting to wonder what they will focus their energy on now we are near the end. What will they replace the briefings with? Reading death notices?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    SnuggyBear wrote: »
    I'd say the covid fanatics are starting to wonder what they will focus their energy on now we are near the end. What will they replace the briefings with? Reading death notices?

    Don't worry it'll be around a while yet, e.g. there will be talk of booster shots next year and maybe we need to lockdown to roll those out, there will be other variants etc.

    The Lockdown question will always be not too far away from people's minds for all scenarios with covid from now on. New medicines to be discussed as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    SnuggyBear wrote: »
    I'd say the covid fanatics are starting to wonder what they will focus their energy on now we are near the end. What will they replace the briefings with? Reading death notices?

    You can see it in this thread already. The handful of dogged posters are the only regular posters left.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    SnuggyBear wrote: »
    I'd say the covid fanatics are starting to wonder what they will focus their energy on now we are near the end. What will they replace the briefings with? Reading death notices?

    Funnily enough I was thinking the same about the open everything yesterday fanatics now that they are going to have progressively less and less to moan about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Where? All 300 odd of them?

    I was asking if this is what the poster meant, not a tongue in cheek response to their post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    bear1 wrote: »
    I was asking if this is what the poster meant, not a tongue in cheek response to their post.

    According to your good self you wanted the border sealed last year and it was just as impossible to do then as it is now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    TomTomTim wrote: »
    You can see it in this thread already. The handful of dogged posters are the only regular posters left.

    Of late, the last two weeks especially, it certainly looks as if more here have realised that vaccination levels and phased openings are the way forward alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭KanyeSouthEast


    We had a great trip to Dublin Zoo today from the west.
    Not one checkpoint to or from there in the eight counties we passed through.
    No mask wearing in the Zoo bar the bathrooms, good to see so many people enjoying life again.
    Glorious days in the park with people in great spirits.
    The lockdown crew must be livid.

    Good to hear but for those of us who want to have a meal indoors a coffee indoors and a pint indoors not to mention a holiday there’s still a bit to go!


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    We had a great trip to Dublin Zoo today from the west.
    Not one checkpoint to or from there in the eight counties we passed through.
    No mask wearing in the Zoo bar the bathrooms, good to see so many people enjoying life again.
    Glorious days in the park with people in great spirits.
    The lockdown crew must be livid.

    Yawn.

    All this “lockdown crew must be livid” nonsense being aimed at those who said pretty much exactly what is happening is what would happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    charlie14 wrote: »
    Of late, the last two weeks especially, it certainly looks as if more here have realised that vaccination levels and phased openings are the way forward alright.

    You mean since the remarkable change of tone from NPHET and the Government....which caught a load of posters off guard.

    For months posters here have pointed to the absurdity of the level 5 lock down 3 months on from the end of Jan, the point where we started testing healthy people once again which was clearly going to have an affect on the amount of people admitted to hospital per 1,000 cases therefore making the importance of daily case numbers much less pertinent.

    What we are reopening now could have been done safely in March.

    My opinion, like others, is based on nearly 60 weeks of Irish data available to us, for 12 weeks of that our Health System was under pressure, less than what it would normally experience. Outside of that 12 week period (2 six week surges)...most restrictions are a waste of time....Rapid Antigen Tests could be used effectively to allow much more activity.

    I'd say the shift we saw two weeks ago was a combination of the massive cost and the increasing amount of people who were no longer buying into the fear and anxiety of the next deadly variant, which was evident in every town and city centre in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    This is almost bizarre from Nolan.
    NPHET were clearly rattled by Lidl's tweet.

    https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1391095650750709769


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Rapid Antigen Tests are like theraputics when it comes to this virus it seems....the anti science chatter of the far right or some such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,209 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Rapid Antigen Tests are like theraputics when it comes to this virus it seems....the anti science chatter of the far right or some such.

    Any country use antigen tests ??? If so there wrong as our experts here know what there talking about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    This is almost bizarre from Nolan.
    NPHET were clearly rattled by Lidl's tweet.

    https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1391095650750709769

    I'd say its more correct to say he seems to have upset the sceptics on Twitter ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Yawn.

    All this “lockdown crew must be livid” nonsense being aimed at those who said pretty much exactly what is happening is what would happen

    What exactly did you guys say would happen, we would be the slowest in Europe to relax any restrictions. Do you not realise that's the problem.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What exactly did you guys say would happen, we would be the slowest in Europe to relax any restrictions. Do you not realise that's the problem.

    I think the only people that appear to have a problem are those that 'think' we're the slowest in Europe.

    Everyone else is happy to see the restrictions being relaxed and the vaccination program move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Graham wrote: »
    I think the only people that appear to have a problem are those that 'think' we're the slowest in Europe.

    Everyone else is happy to see the restrictions being relaxed and the vaccination program move on.

    Correct yes, that is the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Graham wrote: »
    I think the only people that appear to have a problem are those that 'think' we're the slowest in Europe.

    Everyone else is happy to see the restrictions being relaxed and the vaccination program move on.

    I don't think every restaurant owner in the country is happy, do you. They haven't a clue when they are opening unless they put a few tables outside. Do you think they are happy. How about pub owners. How about people in the entertainment industry. Are they happy, but hey **** them Graham is happy he is making money.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    niallo27 wrote: »
    I don't think every restaurant owner in the country is happy, do you. They haven't a clue when they are opening unless they put a few tables outside. Do you think they are happy. How about pub owners. How about people in the entertainment industry. Are they happy

    I'd imagine they don't have a problem with restrictions being relaxed.

    You're the one shifting the goalposts here (again).
    niallo27 wrote: »
    but hey **** them Graham is happy he is making money.

    You have less than no clue about my position, financial or otherwise so you'll excuse me if I completely disregard your incredibly unnecessary, petty and personal opinion about my circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    charlie14 wrote: »
    According to your good self you wanted the border sealed last year and it was just as impossible to do then as it is now.

    We closed the borders except the most obvious one which still lets people bypass certain checks.
    They've closed it before (mad cow I think?) So it could be done again in theory.
    Obviously it's pointless now but I'm curious by the article itself and what they expect the government to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Graham wrote: »
    I'd imagine they don't have a problem with restrictions being relaxed.

    You're the one shifting the goalposts here (again).



    You have less than no clue about my position, financial or otherwise so you'll excuse me if I completely disregard your incredibly unnecessary, petty and personal opinion about my circumstances.

    Of course they have a problem, they haven't a clue when they are opening and are losing their staff to hotels who can open. You honestly think restaurant owners are OK with this. Apologies for the personal remark, it was uncalled for and your right I haven't a clue.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Of course they have a problem, they haven't a clue when they are opening and are losing their staff to hotels who can open. You honestly think restaurant owners are OK with this.

    They would be in a worse position were we to open too soon, see all those business open, only for them to all be closed down again a few weeks later.

    Do you not recall that exact scenario happening previously?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Graham wrote: »
    I think the only people that appear to have a problem are those that 'think' we're the slowest in Europe.

    Everyone else is happy to see the restrictions being relaxed and the vaccination program move on.

    Who do you 'think' has been slower in Europe with our caseload?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Graham wrote: »
    They would be in a worse position were we to open too soon, see all those business open, only for them to all be closed down again a few weeks later.

    Do you not recall that exact scenario happening previously?

    Previous performance is no guarantee of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Graham wrote: »
    They would be in a worse position were we to open too soon, see all those business open, only for them to all be closed down again a few weeks later.

    Do you not recall that exact scenario happening previously?

    Like last summer, they had little or no effect on the numbers. Christmas was a **** show you know that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Feria40


    Graham wrote: »
    They would be in a worse position were we to open too soon, see all those business open, only for them to all be closed down again a few weeks later.

    Do you not recall that exact scenario happening previously?

    To use the line.. But this time it's different!

    It is though, 30% of adults (comprised of the most vulnerable in society and those that look after them) now have a vaccine inside them and that number will increase exponentially over the next few weeks.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Previous performance is no guarantee of?

    So you reckon roll the dice and hope?

    hmmmm

    You realise if we go full on too soon and get it wrong, we'll end up going backwards rapidly.

    Extra few weeks for a more measured relaxation of restrictions sounds reasonable , an approach taken by most countries.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Feria40 wrote: »
    It is though, 30% of adults (comprised of the most vulnerable in society and those that look after them) now have a vaccine inside them and that number will increase exponentially over the next few weeks.

    Emphasis added.

    Restrictions are being relaxed as you say 'over the next few weeks' as the vaccination program progresses.


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