Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

giveitholly · 05-05-2021 10:50PM

God this pandemic has really brought the worst out on people,abusing doctors because they can't get a vaccine quick enough,the sense of self entitlement from some is pathetic

https://twitter.com/dr_richardceann/status/1390020677978177540?s=19

revelman · 05-05-2021 11:04PM

giveitholly wrote: »

God this pandemic has really brought the worst out on people,abusing doctors because they can't get a vaccine quick enough,the sense of self entitlement from some is pathetic

https://twitter.com/dr_richardceann/status/1390020677978177540?s=19

The panic has been caused in large part by the media who keep harping on about the efficacy rates from the trials without referring to the real world effectiveness of all of the approved vaccines in preventing severe COVID. Clear and simple messaging explaining this point from the beginning was sorely needed.

ACitizenErased · 05-05-2021 11:10PM

revelman wrote: »

The panic has been caused in large part by the media who keep harping on about the efficacy rates from the trials without referring to the real world effectiveness of all of the approved vaccines in preventing severe COVID. Clear and simple messaging explaining this point from the beginning was sorely needed.

100% this

Micky 32 · 05-05-2021 11:10PM

giveitholly wrote: »

God this pandemic has really brought the worst out on people,abusing doctors because they can't get a vaccine quick enough,the sense of self entitlement from some is pathetic

https://twitter.com/dr_richardceann/status/1390020677978177540?s=19

I was talking to a doctors wife and she told the amount of calls he gets people trying to talk him into giving the vaccine under the table.

Beanybabog · 05-05-2021 11:11PM

Nobody should be abusing the staff of course but it doesn’t help that Stephen Donnelly went on the news and said that all four vaccines will be available to the over 50s/60s without clarifying immediately that they’d only get offered AZ still. It was pretty misleading and now is not the time for poor communication. Lots of people took it up that all four vaccines where there for them

Micky 32 · 05-05-2021 11:13PM

A reminder:

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1390065092604186628?s=21

Micky 32 · 05-05-2021 11:15PM

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1390067233230135298?s=21

tamova · 05-05-2021 11:17PM

I had asked earlier in this thread about younger people with asthma getting vaccine under Group 7, so thought I'd give a heads up to anyone in a similar situation. I just got my appointment for vaccine. I'm in 25-35 age bracket. I submitted a form with my GP. I'm prescribed seretide and ventolin, but a family member with the same age just got it too and he takes becotide.

Strazdas · 05-05-2021 11:17PM

Beanybabog wrote: »

Nobody should be abusing the staff of course but it doesn’t help that Stephen Donnelly went on the news and said that all four vaccines will be available to the over 50s/60s without clarifying immediately that they’d only get offered AZ still. It was pretty misleading and now is not the time for poor communication. Lots of people took it up that all four vaccines where there for them

Is that correct though? There surely can't be enough AZ available to vaccinate the 50-60s.....there must be half a million people at least in that cohort.

josip · 05-05-2021 11:20PM

giveitholly wrote: »

God this pandemic has really brought the worst out on people,abusing doctors because they can't get a vaccine quick enough,the sense of self entitlement from some is pathetic

https://twitter.com/dr_richardceann/status/1390020677978177540?s=19

I would be a bit circumspect about a doctor whose twitter handle is Richard Ceann.

podgeandrodge · 05-05-2021 11:20PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

A reminder:

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1390065092604186628?s=21

Presumably when they get sufficient Pfizer, the Astra/J&J will be dumped - no point in having second best when supply sufficient.

bantee · 05-05-2021 11:26PM

TheChosenOne_ wrote: »

Just received my first dose of the Moderna vaccine earlier on. Feel fine now atm.

Just wondering from anyone who received the Moderna one if they felt any affects after getting it and if I should be preparing to feel a bit crappy

Got my first dose of it last week and I was fine after it, tender or sore arm for a day or two but grand in general. The 2nd dose might hit a bit harder though

Panrich · 05-05-2021 11:28PM

bantee wrote: »

Got my first dose of it last week and I was fine after it, tender or sore arm for a day or two but grand in general. The 2nd dose might hit a bit harder though

Do you find yourself looking at Windows or Office upgrades?

Beanybabog · 05-05-2021 11:34PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Is that correct though? There surely can't be enough AZ available to vaccinate the 50-60s.....there must be half a million people at least in that cohort.

I have no idea how the rollout works but from reading here it appears they’re offering everyone the AZ and presumably if that runs out they’ll switch rather than pause that cohort? I don’t know, I just know that what Donnelly said gave the false impression that there would be some chance of a choice. There’s not

bantee · 05-05-2021 11:36PM

Panrich wrote: »

Do you find yourself looking at Windows or Office upgrades?

Ha ha hasn't kicked in yet but time will tell!

Strazdas · 05-05-2021 11:45PM

Beanybabog wrote: »

I have no idea how the rollout works but from reading here it appears they’re offering everyone the AZ and presumably if that runs out they’ll switch rather than pause that cohort? I don’t know, I just know that what Donnelly said gave the false impression that there would be some chance of a choice. There’s not

I would assume they have nowhere near enough AZ only to vaccinate the over 50s : they've only given 400k AZ doses in the whole of 2021 and they would need at least that to vaccinate the fifty year olds + (which means the other three vaccines must come into play).

Beanybabog · 05-05-2021 11:59PM

Strazdas wrote: »

I would assume they have nowhere near enough AZ only to vaccinate the over 50s : they've only given 400k AZ doses in the whole of 2021 and they would need at least that to vaccinate the fifty year olds + (which means the other three vaccines must come into play).

I know but it seems to be the case that they’re using AstraZeneca first. In fact when the registration went up for 60-64 the HSE website actually said you will be vaccinated using the AstraZeneca vaccine. That page is gone now but I don’t know if the strategy is the same. In any event, Stephen Donnelly said on the news all four vaccines would be available to the group which gave the impression that people would have some say over the vaccine, and they don’t… I can only assume that’s why people are getting angry at the GP. You may well get offered Pfizer / moderna/ j&j but it still seems to be a case of you get what you get and you don’t get upset.

Golfwidow · 06-05-2021 12:01AM

I’d love to know - from those of you who’ve already had the vaccine; how much notice for your appointment at the MVC did you get?

Sparko · 06-05-2021 12:07AM

Golfwidow wrote: »

I’d love to know - from those of you who’ve already had the vaccine; how much notice for your appointment at the MVC did you get?

My parents both got 2 days notice.

Golfwidow · 06-05-2021 12:12AM

The reason I ask is that I would have to get cover for work which is not easy in my field. I’m not working from home. Are employers obligated to let employees off work to get the vaccine? I understand that the majority will facilitate but....??

Strazdas · 06-05-2021 12:15AM

Beanybabog wrote: »

I know but it seems to be the case that they’re using AstraZeneca first. In fact when the registration went up for 60-64 the HSE website actually said you will be vaccinated using the AstraZeneca vaccine. That page is gone now but I don’t know if the strategy is the same. In any event, Stephen Donnelly said on the news all four vaccines would be available to the group which gave the impression that people would have some say over the vaccine, and they don’t… I can only assume that’s why people are getting angry at the GP. You may well get offered Pfizer / moderna/ j&j but it still seems to be a case of you get what you get and you don’t get upset.

Yes, it's very hard to judge how the vaccines will break down for the over 50s. I'd say there will be a fair bit of AZ in there but probably a good bit of Pfizer as well, given that it's the most used vaccine by far.

Probably a bit of a lottery for people - they won't know what they are receiving until they get the text.

joeysoap · 06-05-2021 12:21AM

Golfwidow wrote: »

I’d love to know - from those of you who’ve already had the vaccine; how much notice for your appointment at the MVC did you get?

1 days notice,

Text today, vaccine tomorrow

She has cancelled doctors appointment for next week, ( which she wouldn’t have made If she’d had known of the HSE appointment)

Marcusm · 06-05-2021 12:56AM

Strazdas wrote: »

I would assume they have nowhere near enough AZ only to vaccinate the over 50s : they've only given 400k AZ doses in the whole of 2021 and they would need at least that to vaccinate the fifty year olds + (which means the other three vaccines must come into play).

One of the news programmes I’m sure said they received 400k AZ last week. Some will be for second doses of HCWs.

SJFly · 06-05-2021 06:35AM

Beanybabog wrote: »

I know but it seems to be the case that they’re using AstraZeneca first. In fact when the registration went up for 60-64 the HSE website actually said you will be vaccinated using the AstraZeneca vaccine. That page is gone now but I don’t know if the strategy is the same. In any event, Stephen Donnelly said on the news all four vaccines would be available to the group which gave the impression that people would have some say over the vaccine, and they don’t… I can only assume that’s why people are getting angry at the GP. You may well get offered Pfizer / moderna/ j&j but it still seems to be a case of you get what you get and you don’t get upset.

The announcement that all 4 vaccines would be available to the over 50s put to bed the idea that the rollout would be stalled for that age group while wiating for extra AZ or J&J. I don't think that it was ever suggested or implied people could choose which vaccine they would receive. I think the policy of "take what your offered" has been pretty consistent.

Lumen · 06-05-2021 07:02AM

Marcusm wrote: »

One of the news programmes I’m sure said they received 400k AZ last week. Some will be for second doses of HCWs.

No, they received 165k AZ last week.

RavenBea17b · 06-05-2021 07:15AM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Presumably when they get sufficient Pfizer, the Astra/J&J will be dumped - no point in having second best when supply sufficient.

In what way is AZ second best ? - that is quite a statement.

Studies are showing that ALL vaccines are doing exactly what they were designed to do, prevent serious hospitalisation, serious illness.

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1385513092533178369

Also, I think if I recall, I read somewhere, will try to dig the link out I posted earlier, in some real world results, AZ surpassed other vaccines.

It is swings and roundabouts of the same coin.

All do exactly what is needed - prevent serious illness.

There is enough vaccine hesitation around as it is.

Ballynally · 06-05-2021 07:27AM

I am 57. I was going to wait with registration hoping i would get the JJ vaccine sometime at the end of June and be done with it, when stocks of AZ were depleted because of India stopping exporting and the usual disappointing delivery numbers.
It seems to me they really intend to keep the JJ for every kind of hard to reach group including the hesitancy people. As there is simply not enough JJ for even those there will be none for the over 50s left. Then, if AZ again fail to be delivered in large numbers i hope Pfizer and Moderna will make up for it. Unless every obese and chronically ill person gets done first i w still be waiting at the end of july, possibly august f the first jab.
Tell me where i am going wrong w this please..

Lumen · 06-05-2021 07:35AM

Ballynally wrote: »

Tell me where i am going wrong w this please..

You're doing nothing wrong.

Please continue dithering so I can take your vaccine.

secman · 06-05-2021 07:42AM

Golfwidow wrote: »

I’d love to know - from those of you who’ve already had the vaccine; how much notice for your appointment at the MVC did you get?

My wife received text on a Friday morning for a Saturday evening appointment.
I received a Friday evening text for a Tuesday morning appointment.
So no real trend ?

Ballynally · 06-05-2021 07:47AM

Lumen wrote: »

You're doing nothing wrong.

Please continue dithering so I can take your vaccine.

My pleasure. I was aiming for JJ but i will take any vaccine. Still going to wait a little longer w registration. If that means you get one first thats fine.
At this stage the Covid19 numbers are low and even lower when i get called even if i dont wait w registration. A few weeks wont matter much.
If my dithering is beneficial to you, you are welcome..

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