An Garda Síochána - COVID19

04-05-2021 06:49PM

TomsOnTheRoof wrote: »

That's completely disingenuous. Gardaí have been patrolling these spots to issue fines, not to protect large gatherings from being targeted by criminal elements.

So gardai just do one particular job when they are out?
Or do they do many many jobs......

04-05-2021 06:58PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Yes beauty spots on nice days, you think it's good they're out annoying people. They're not saving lives get that virtue signaling out of your head it's pure brainwashing or fear of the person above.

How long would these beauty spots remain beautiful and peaceful of Gardai actively avoided them?

I don't think you actually understand how criminals and policing works

drunkmonkey · 04-05-2021 06:59PM

What's with the constant repetitive questions when you know that's not what's been talked about. It's a good deflection for discussion on the matter at hand I'll give you that.
Garda has their opinion, fake news, seriously:rolleyes:

drunkmonkey · 04-05-2021 07:01PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

How long would these beauty spots remain beautiful and peaceful of Gardai actively avoided them?

I don't think you actually understand how criminals and policing works

Ah will you stop your protecting beaches from people. We're not taking about stopping everyday crime, this is the Covid forum.

04-05-2021 07:01PM

bubblypop wrote: »

So gardai just do one particular job when they are out?
Or do they do many many jobs......

"Dispatch, any murders in progress?"

"Nope but there's an old woman being mugged"

"Not my thing dispatch, not my thing"

puts sunglasses back on while the music plays......

04-05-2021 07:02PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Ah will you stop your protecting beaches from people. We're not taking about stopping everyday crime, this is the Covid forum.

Criminals, last I checked, are people. They have been known to, shocking I know, target innocent people that are congregating in beauty spots.

I'll tell you a shocker now, but pickpockets congregate in shopping areas. Shhh, no one knows that so don't let on you know.

drunkmonkey · 04-05-2021 07:07PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Criminals, last I checked, are people.

Your posts are idiotic and clueless.

It's your definition of a criminal is the problem, the ags see a family heading to a beauty spot as something that should be stamped out and met with a possible jail term and i'm the clueless one.

drunkmonkey · 04-05-2021 07:09PM

Sorry I should have said some members of ags.

runawaybishop · 04-05-2021 07:13PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's your definition of a criminal is the problem, the ags see a family heading to a beauty spot as something that should be stamped out and met with a possible jail term and i'm the clueless one.

For the last year the papers have been full of reports of people driving stupid distances to go to parks and beaches even at the height of the pandemic. Of course the gardai should be publicising that they will be keeping an eye on popular spots.

04-05-2021 07:15PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's your definition of a criminal is the problem, the ags see a family heading to a beauty spot as something that should be stamped out and met with a possible jail term and i'm the clueless one.

I know what a Criminal is, I deal with them daily.

But you're right. Every single Gardai shall be dispatched to Ballymun tomorrow. Each one will be assigned a set crime to deal with.

No criminals shall venture out and absolutely no beauty scene shall witness a crime every again

Great idea. Nailed it!

drunkmonkey · 04-05-2021 07:27PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

I know what a Criminal is, I deal with them daily.

Do you think it should be a criminal offense to visit a beauty spot? It would be great to hear your personal lay persons opinion on the different measures ags were asked to implement.

I'm not really expecting a comprehensive answer I understand the position your in.

Happydays2020 · 04-05-2021 07:34PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Do you think it should be a criminal offense to visit a beauty spot? It would be great to hear your personal lay persons opinion on the different measures ags were asked to implement.

I'm not really expecting a comprehensive answer I understand the position your in.

Or should it be an offence to try to leave the country? I know the AGS does not write legislation and they are following orders but still....

Tenzor07 · 04-05-2021 09:43PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Will will post about anything and everything. We live in a world of constantly outraged experts.Perhaps ags should just abandon social media.

What are you on about? This is the Covid19/Garda thread... And we're discussing the Tweets by the Gardai showing them snapping pictures is wide open outdoor spaces and they're posting about obeying the Covid restrictions...it seems a waste of time to have Police resources checking Covid rules in wide open outdoor spaces where the risk of Covid is little or none...

Now if a resident of North Dublin contacts the Gardai about joyriders, Scrambler bike riders, drug dealing or anti-social behaviour then it's something you'll never see a Tweet about "Patrolling a high crime area"....

04-05-2021 10:19PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

What are you on about? This is the Covid19/Garda thread... And we're discussing the Tweets by the Gardai showing them snapping pictures is wide open outdoor spaces and they're posting about obeying the Covid restrictions...it seems a waste of time to have Police resources checking Covid rules in wide open outdoor spaces where the risk of Covid is little or none...

Now if a resident of North Dublin contacts the Gardai about joyriders, Scrambler bike riders, drug dealing or anti-social behaviour then it's something you'll never see a Tweet about "Patrolling a high crime area"....

Again, for those that can't follow a simple thought process.

You can't please all of the people, all of the time. No matter what ags does it doesn't do, people will find issue.

This thread is proof of this.

Ashbourne hoop · 05-05-2021 09:17AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I've already said I linked it to the incident in the Church which considering the known circumstances at the time was a reasonable train of thought, we only know now there was a lot more to it, who told you first yesterday there was more to it.

It was NEVER a reasonable train of thought. Anyone with even a passing interest in how child protection laws work in this country knew there was more to it, had to be, that was the only reasonable train of thought. But it fitted the anti eastablishment/gardaí views of many to go along with the NP etc.

drunkmonkey · 05-05-2021 09:46AM

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

It was NEVER a reasonable train of thought. Anyone with even a passing interest in how child protection laws work in this country knew there was more to it, had to be, that was the only reasonable train of thought. But it fitted the anti eastablishment/gardaí views of many to go along with the NP etc.

Hence my opening question, is there more to it. There was a coincidence at play and needed to be proved unrelated and it was eventually. Are people normally arrested under the mental health act in the middle of the night and their children taken, I still don't see how the mental health act came into it, I definitely don't think it's mental to object to your kids been masked all day at school if that's how it was used.

05-05-2021 09:50AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Hence my opening question, is there more to it. There was a coincidence at play and needed to be proved unrelated and it was eventually. Are people normally arrested under the mental health act in the middle of the night and their children taken, I still don't see how the mental health act came into it, I definitely don't think it's mental to object to your kids been masked all day at school if that's how it was used.

Of course you don't see how it came into it, nor are you supposed to. Because it's really none of your business.
People are not detained under the mental treatment act for nothing and children are definitely not 'taken' for no good reason.

Ashbourne hoop · 05-05-2021 10:08AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Hence my opening question, is there more to it. There was a coincidence at play and needed to be proved unrelated and it was eventually. Are people normally arrested under the mental health act in the middle of the night and their children taken, I still don't see how the mental health act came into it, I definitely don't think it's mental to object to your kids been masked all day at school if that's how it was used.

The Gardaí use their powers under Section 12 sparingly, and when they do, it is with good reason. If the Gardaí believed there was a risk to the children then of course they need to act asap, and if that's 3am, then so be it. Imagine if, god forbid, something happened to the children and it came out that Gardaí believed there was a risk to the children but decided to wait until 9am before removing them ? They'd be hammered, and rightly so.

drunkmonkey · 05-05-2021 10:18AM

We don't know if the children were at risk nothing to suggest they were, he was proven fit by a doctor while in custody and released if the story is to be believed hence I don't see how the mental health act came into it.

05-05-2021 10:19AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

We don't know if the children were at risk nothing to suggest they were, he was proven fit by a doctor while in custody and released if the story is to be believed hence I don't see how the mental health act came into it.

I'm starting to think there are a lot of people out there that should be detained under the mental treatment act.

bluepurple · 05-05-2021 10:22AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

We don't know if the children were at risk nothing to suggest they were, he was proven fit by a doctor while in custody and released if the story is to be believed hence I don't see how the mental health act came into it.

Because it’s easier for them to shove someone onto a psychiatrist than dealing with the situation themselves. You only have to look at what happened in Dundrum back in March to see what’s going on.

Ashbourne hoop · 05-05-2021 10:25AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

We don't know if the children were at risk nothing to suggest they were, he was proven fit by a doctor while in custody and released if the story is to be believed hence I don't see how the mental health act came into it.

Other than the Gardai invoking their power under Section 12 ? You will not, and should not, have any more information than that. The children have a right to confidentiality, their father's actions made it harder obviously, it shouldn't be diminished further.

05-05-2021 10:34AM

bluepurple wrote: »

Because it’s easier for them to shove someone onto a psychiatrist than dealing with the situation themselves. You only have to look at what happened in Dundrum back in March to see what’s going on.

What happened?

drunkmonkey · 05-05-2021 10:34AM

bubblypop wrote: »

I'm starting to think there are a lot of people out there that should be detained under the mental treatment act.

Unreal, it's an open air lunatic asylum. Should start with the auld ones driving around on their own with no glasses on because the mask fogs them up. It's like bumper cars out there.

drunkmonkey · 05-05-2021 10:36AM

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Other than the Gardai invoking their power under Section 12 ? You will not, and should not, have any more information than that. The children have a right to confidentiality, their father's actions made it harder obviously, it shouldn't be diminished further.

In general, I don't care about this hoax of a story. I was just asking is it usual to use that act when taking children. Is there not something else that covers a situation like that one.

05-05-2021 10:39AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

In general, I don't care about this hoax of a story. I was just asking is it usual to use that act when taking children. Is there not something else that covers a situation like that one.

What are you talking about?
What Act do you think they used?

drunkmonkey · 05-05-2021 10:41AM

bubblypop wrote: »

What are you talking about?
What Act do you think they used?

I'd have to go back and watch it, it's in the video. I thought the Garda said section 4 of the mental health act. Not going to do it right now.

05-05-2021 10:42AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I'd have to go back and watch it, it's in the video. I thought the Garda said section 4 of the mental health act. Not going to do it right now.

The man was detained under the mental treatment act, nothing to do with the kids.

The Nal · 05-05-2021 10:47AM

Here is is in the background with his kids behind the shop keeper whos taking a load of abuse. This was a grift, simple. He and the National Party just walked away with 14 grand of other peoples money.

https://twitter.com/IamAngelbrooks/status/1389747187341533184

drunkmonkey · 05-05-2021 10:49AM

bubblypop wrote: »

The man was detained under the mental treatment act, nothing to do with the kids.

What section, it allowed them to take the kids unless they were taken under a separate act or order.

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