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Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I have commitments here .

    Can she come here?

    All parties have played by the rules for the last 14/15 months. All parties have been vaccinated. Vulnerable people have been vaccinated. That’s what we were asked to do.

    I fail to see how her visiting you is any more risky than a Dub visiting their parents in Donegal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    Can she come here?

    l.

    Yes, soon hopefully when travel is allowed with negative test and fully vaccinated .Which is why we need clarity on the AZ . Thank goodness for whatapp and facetime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Just a quick question - the EMA has authorised Pfizer for ages 16+. But anything I read in Ireland talks about ages 18+ for vaccination.
    Will Ireland work it's way down to Age 16 based on current EMA approval ?
    (I know Pfizer have applied to EMA for Ages 12-15)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Just a quick question - the EMA has authorised Pfizer for ages 16+. But anything I read in Ireland talks about ages 18+ for vaccination.
    Will Ireland work it's way down to Age 16 ?

    I think it's 16 for specific medical conditions but hasn't been approved for 18-16 other than that yet. But am open to correction!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Yes, soon hopefully when travel is allowed with negative test and fully vaccinated .Which is why we need clarity on the AZ . Thank goodness for whatapp and facetime

    If you waiting for the approval from this thread you may never see her again.

    In your shoes, I would welcome her home tomorrow. Everyone involved has been vaccinated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭irishlad.


    HSE's cautious target of 140-160k doses has been broken already this week.

    About 167k doses administered since Monday, with more numbers to be added in from previous days and weekend numbers still to come, we could well hit 200k for the week!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=502588836


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I think it's 16 for specific medical conditions but hasn't been approved for 18-16 other than that yet. But am open to correction!

    By the EMA or Ireland ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    By the EMA or Ireland ?

    Sorry meant Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Sorry meant Ireland.

    That's what I was afraid of. If the EMA has approved it generally for Age 16+ but Ireland has restricted it's use to Age 18+ except with certain medical conditions, then what will Ireland do when EMA approves use in Ages 12-15?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    We got something like 16,000 doses of the J and J vaccine for April,How come none of them have been used yet? Is it down to the logistics after NIAC's recommendations? Surely they should be used by now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭irishlad.


    We got something like 16,000 doses of the J and J vaccine for April,How come none of them have been used yet? Is it down to the logistics after NIAC's recommendations? Surely they should be used by now

    The HSE's new rollout plan is due early this week and should give a clearer picture of how the J and J will be used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Anxiety about getting the vaccine found to be cause of many reported physical side-effects. Anxious people (and they can be anyone) are also influenced by what they hear and read on media and social media.

    The report also says that people who are anxious in general about vaccines/needles are gravitating towards the J&J vaccine in the US, and as a consequence it is seeing a higher reported numbers of these reactions.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccine-reactions-5-states-caused-anxiety-cdc-finds-n1265979


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    irishlad. wrote: »
    HSE's cautious target of 140-160k doses has been broken already this week.

    About 167k doses administered since Monday, with more numbers to be added in from previous days and weekend numbers still to come, we could well hit 200k for the week!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=502588836

    I have a feeling that Cohort 4 is going to at least double in size. The number of anecdotes I have heard of people plaguing their GP/Consultant and them just caving in and putting them in Cohort 4 just to get them to stop calling is significant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    I have a feeling that Cohort 4 is going to at least double in size. The number of anecdotes I have heard of people plaguing their GP/Consultant and them just caving in and putting them in Cohort 4 just to get them to stop calling is significant.

    Really?
    I thought that you had to have very specific conditions to be considered Cohort 4 ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    I have a feeling that Cohort 4 is going to at least double in size. The number of anecdotes I have heard of people plaguing their GP/Consultant and them just caving in and putting them in Cohort 4 just to get them to stop calling is significant.

    These are probably the most anxious people, all the doom on tv is playing on their mental health, I’ve no problem with them getting a jab a few weeks before me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭JPup


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    That's what I was afraid of. If the EMA has approved it generally for Age 16+ but Ireland has restricted it's use to Age 18+ except with certain medical conditions, then what will Ireland do when EMA approves use in Ages 12-15?

    I suspect there will be a secondary school based vaccination programme early in the next school year once it has been approved for ages 12 and up and once all adults have been vaccinated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    I have a feeling that Cohort 4 is going to at least double in size. The number of anecdotes I have heard of people plaguing their GP/Consultant and them just caving in and putting them in Cohort 4 just to get them to stop calling is significant.

    It will reduce the numbers in Cohort 7 then so it won’t make a huge difference in the end
    Having said that no GP should bow under pressure from anyone .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,577 ✭✭✭JTMan


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    That's what I was afraid of. If the EMA has approved it generally for Age 16+ but Ireland has restricted it's use to Age 18+ except with certain medical conditions, then what will Ireland do when EMA approves use in Ages 12-15?

    Ireland is not restricting use to 18+. Those aged 16 and 17, even without medical conditions, will be vaccinated most likely with Pfizer. The confusion is caused by the use of the word "adult" or "18+" in some documents, both are incorrect, should say "16 and over".

    Ireland has the largest under 16 population in Europe. The vaccination of children matters even more here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,577 ✭✭✭JTMan


    JPup wrote: »
    I suspect there will be a secondary school based vaccination programme early in the next school year once it has been approved for ages 12 and up and once all adults have been vaccinated.

    Why wait for schools to reopen?

    EMA expected to approve Pfizer for 12-15 year olds in June. If 82% of adults have their first dose by 30 June, then we should be able to vaccinate 12-15 year olds in July and have those fully vaccinated before school reopens.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    JPup wrote: »
    I suspect there will be a secondary school based vaccination programme early in the next school year once it has been approved for ages 12 and up and once all adults have been vaccinated.

    Well, hopefully they will also offer the vaccination to 12 year olds in 5th/6th Class too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Russman


    So are cohorts 4 & 7 completely separate from the age based rollout ? I realise they’re all dependent on supply, but what I mean is that they’re being done independent of the age categories, and if supply was sufficient, we could see the 60s, 50s, 40s etc being done whilst cohort 7 was still being completed ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    JTMan wrote: »
    Why wait for schools to reopen?

    EMA expected to approve Pfizer for 12-15 year olds in June. If 82% of adults have their first dose by 30 June, then we should be able to vaccinate 12-15 year olds in July and have those fully vaccinated before school reopens.

    Exactly. Really hope that they do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Russman


    JTMan wrote: »
    Why wait for schools to reopen?

    EMA expected to approve Pfizer for 12-15 year olds in June. If 82% of adults have their first dose by 30 June, then we should be able to vaccinate 12-15 year olds in July and have those fully vaccinated before school reopens.

    Completely. No point in pausing and maybe losing momentum, keep lashing it into all the arms we can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭irishlad.


    Russman wrote: »
    So are cohorts 4 & 7 completely separate from the age based rollout ? I realise they’re all dependent on supply, but what I mean is that they’re being done independent of the age categories, and if supply was sufficient, we could see the 60s, 50s, 40s etc being done whilst cohort 7 was still being completed ?

    Pretty much, at the moment we have cohorts 3,4,5 and 7 running together. That will continue into May, along with 50's and then 40's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    When should people aged 45-49 expect to get their 1st dose ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    JTMan wrote: »
    Why wait for schools to reopen?

    EMA expected to approve Pfizer for 12-15 year olds in June. If 82% of adults have their first dose by 30 June, then we should be able to vaccinate 12-15 year olds in July and have those fully vaccinated before school reopens.

    I wouldn't say wait for schools to open but July as I've said before would seem to soon I think. Firstly we've the uncertainty over J&J, we could need much more Pfizer than had been anticipated for older age groups.

    Secondly currently the plan is to be on 25-34 in July. We'd then have the 16-24 age group also due to begin dose 1

    That's all before we factor in 2nd doses required through July etc

    While it's ambitious to say let's aim for July, due to the caveats above I think July is out of reach to start on u16. I would think a realistic timeline would be beginning in August at some point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Russman


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    When should people aged 45-49 expect to get their 1st dose ?

    I’d say it will become clearer tomorrow or Tuesday when the revised plan is presented. I’m in that group and I’m sort of hoping for maybe second week in June ish. I guess it depends on just how “in parallel” they do the 50s & 40s and if they decide to, however much behind the scenes, try and schedule the 50s to get a good chunk of the J&J.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    When should people aged 45-49 expect to get their 1st dose ?

    It depends on the revised plan. Either early May or late May/early June depending on planning decisions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    It depends on the revised plan. Either early or late May depending on planning decisions.

    That would be great !


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