What's for you won't pass you.

job seeker · 02-05-2021 12:19AM #1

I hear a lot of people use this phrase. Personally, I think that it's BS. Purely used as a coping mechanism. I have not ever experienced something happen to me because it was for me.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Your Face · 02-05-2021 12:27AM

Agreed - a coping mechanism.
Its for the salt of the earth sad-sacks at the bar who commiserate with each other over never really achieving anything of note. Every excuse under the sun for not even trying.

Leg End Reject · 02-05-2021 12:28AM

It's mostly confirmation bias when all the ducks line up, or consolation when they go askew.

It's human nature to try to make sense of life.

Ubbquittious · 02-05-2021 12:30AM

Yes it's a load of sh1t. Whats for you, you fcuking have to work hard for it, chase after it and bate it into submission and spend the rest of your days worrying nobody else will pull the rug out from under you

Thing is on this planet of 7 billion people whatever you manage to get your grubby paws on there's a veritable horde of others who want the same thing and you essentially have it at their expense in a lot of cases.

Strumms · 02-05-2021 12:32AM

I think people mean well when they say it, but it’s bs.

Examine the words in the sequence they are issued, it makes no sense.

02-05-2021 12:34AM

Total passive attitude to life.

Antares35 · 02-05-2021 12:36AM

So what's the point going out and working hard for anything, sure if it's for you it won't pass you anyway. Sad passive, victim approach to life really.

Sharpyshoot · 02-05-2021 12:40AM

Coitus after consuming vast quantities of viagra.

job seeker · 02-05-2021 12:41AM

Leg End Reject wrote: »

It's mostly confirmation bias when all the ducks line up, or consolation when they go askew.

It's human nature to try to make sense of life.

The thing is though, it doesn't even make sense.. The phrase isn't even based on chance ffs! :rolleyes:

RandomViewer · 02-05-2021 12:43AM

Antares35 wrote: »

So what's the point going out and working hard for anything, sure if it's for you it won't pass you anyway. Sad passive, victim approach to life really.

That's not my understanding of the phrase, basically if something bad is going to happen to you, disease death whatever, fate will prevail, fuxx all to do with money or life choices

Leg End Reject · 02-05-2021 12:44AM

job seeker wrote: »

The thing is though, it doesn't even make sense.. The phase isn't even based on chance ffs! :rolleyes:

No, but if you believe in fate you can justify anything. Delusional people are generally happier, because reality isn't always rosy.

Feisar · 02-05-2021 12:44AM

I fúcking hate the saying. It always self fulfills.

Kemo didn't go well, so yer meant to die, g'luck.

Leg End Reject · 02-05-2021 12:46AM

Feisar wrote: »

I fúcking hate the saying. It always self fulfills.

Kemo didn't go well, so yer meant to die, g'luck.

Up there with "God's plan" for the religious. Sometimes shıt just happens.

Antares35 · 02-05-2021 01:07AM

RandomViewer wrote: »

That's not my understanding of the phrase, basically if something bad is going to happen to you, disease death whatever, fate will prevail, fuxx all to do with money or life choices

Why only bad things?

02-05-2021 01:07AM

I make a lot of mistakes, but then again, I also have a lot of success.
if you've never made any mistakes, then you've probably never done anything worthwhile either.

job seeker · 02-05-2021 01:16AM

I was hoping to hear from someone who believes in this phrase actually.. I think it would be interesting to hear their point of view.

02-05-2021 01:21AM

job seeker wrote: »

I was hoping to hear from someone who believes in this phrase actually.. I think it would be interesting to hear their point of view.

Until just now, I'd never heard it before.
I was responding to others who were basically saying, things were bad without trying.

job seeker · 02-05-2021 01:29AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Until just now, I'd never heard it before.
I was responding to others who were basically saying, things were bad without trying.

I see, I hear so many people say it as I said in the op. So that's surprising.

For example.

My dad was out of work there about 5 years ago. He applied to a job and the two other people who went for the job didn't take it in the end. So he was like "If it's for you it won't pass you"

I explained to him:

1) People apply for a job all the time and don't take them when they are offered the job.

2) See the first point! :pac:

StupidLikeAFox · 02-05-2021 01:39AM

Its up there with "guesstimate". Its either a guess or an estimate pal, can't be both

job seeker · 02-05-2021 01:46AM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Its up there with "guesstimate". Its either a guess or an estimate pal, can't be both

So bizarre like... :rolleyes:

job seeker · 02-05-2021 01:48AM

WhomadeGod wrote: »

The odds of you being born have been calculated at 1 in 400 trillion.

You are floating on a ball of rock and water in the middle of the universe with no idea who or what made it or why it was made.

To think that you are 100% control of whats going on and that there isn't greater powers at play in some manner is naive.

Explain to me how the above works. Or how one thing could be for me and something else is not???

I believe in Aliens, but that's not comparable at all..

Vestiapx · 02-05-2021 01:53AM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Its up there with "guesstimate". Its either a guess or an estimate pal, can't be both

https://youtu.be/99OKmFLO4UE

Binomial solution by guestimates is an established method.

job seeker · 02-05-2021 02:01AM

WhomadeGod wrote: »

I wish I could explain what's it all about but I don't know what's going on myself unfortunately.

My post is as useful as a one legged man In an arse kicking contest

Just my belief that there's more to us just making day to day decisions at play.

Can you provide examples? Genuinely curious..

ILoveYourVibes · 02-05-2021 07:47AM

I think the idea is ...don't try fitting yourself into places that don't fit you and don't serve you.

Don't put a round peg into a square hole.

Or that is the way i look at it.

that is what the phrase means to me.

Trying to make things happen or stay in places that weren't good for me or try to please people who were not good for me was something I struggled with and STILL struggle with.

So i have to tell myself ..let it go like girl!

02-05-2021 08:09AM

job seeker wrote: »

I was hoping to hear from someone who believes in this phrase actually.. I think it would be interesting to hear their point of view.

Well here I am, job seeker, sure what's for you won't pass you

I think it is an excellent phrase with rather a deep philosophical grounding inherent in its contemplation. It encourages stoicosm and facilitates cheerful acceptance and ultimately contentment in the face of the illogical vagaries of life.

The observable fact is one can be a very hard worker, very talented, full of creative ideas etc and not "get ahead" while some mediocre but ingratiating simp who is good at licking the appropriate arse will rise instead. It happens all the time.

Life is full of unfairness and manipulation, uneven luck and inherited wealth and power. It is the lie of the American dream that if one puts the nose to the grindstone one will steadily win. Not true. No guarantees.

And at any moment the sh1t can hit the fan - a parent or child needs you to quit to become a full time carer, your back gets fcuked up, your accountant turns out to be a crook.

But if you adopt the attitude of working hard and being creative because it is your nature and a pleasure, but yet accepting that in spite of this you may not get the prizes deserved, and that is life, there is less likelihood of bitterness, disappointment, or any emotion that would suck the joy out of the goodness of being alive.

What is for you will not pass you by is a philosophical release of the striving for the distant or elusive goal or destination in favour of really enjoying the here and now journey.

Mad_maxx · 02-05-2021 12:35PM

its a silly saying ( but most sayings are objectively spurious ) but i dont believe that we are entirely in charge of our futures personally , it doesnt mean people have no choice what they do when they get up each day but i dont believe we can perfectly independently map out the course of our lives

two people can grow up in the same neighbourhood , both do well at school , stay out of trouble , graduate and start good jobs , one is driving home one evening and is killed by a drunk driver , the other just lives on and has a good life , both did the same thing up to the point where the universe or something intervened and changed everything

thats just one example of where we cant map out or own lives and future , you cant fight bad luck if its in the stars for you down the line

Antares35 · 02-05-2021 12:40PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

its a silly saying ( but most sayings are objectively spurious ) but i dont believe that we are entirely in charge of our futures personally , it doesnt mean people have no choice what they do when they get up each day but i dont believe we can perfectly independently map out the course of our lives

two people can grow up in the same neighbourhood , both do well at school , stay out of trouble , graduate and start good jobs , one is driving home one evening and is killed by a drunk driver , the other just lives on and has a good life , both did the same thing up to the point where the universe or something intervened and changed everything

thats just one example of where we cant map out or own lives and future , you cant fight bad luck if its in the stars for you down the line

I agree with you in terms of the lack of control we have, but are accidents and bad luck not just completely random? Just because someone has a crash doesn't mean it was always intended for them. I don't think we are a born with a map that has our destiny pre- written, although that might be veering into philosophical territory

02-05-2021 12:47PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

''What's for you won't pass you'' is a silly saying .....

you cant fight bad luck if its in the stars for you down the line

But but but :P

Wanderer2010 · 02-05-2021 12:52PM

I dont think the saying means just sit back, do nothing and life will bring happiness, money and relationships to your feet. Its more a case of if you go out and try to make something of your life and it doesnt work out, which is inevitable on many occasions, there is a lesson in it and you have a choice- learn from it and try again or just give up, become a victim and let it define you.
The saying is broad and means that life is an endless opportunity to learn.

Mad_maxx · 02-05-2021 01:59PM

Antares35 wrote: »

I agree with you in terms of the lack of control we have, but are accidents and bad luck not just completely random? Just because someone has a crash doesn't mean it was always intended for them. I don't think we are a born with a map that has our destiny pre- written, although that might be veering into philosophical territory

both bad luck and good luck are random , beit being hit by a drunk driver or winning the lotto

the person involved did nothing to determine the outcome

Antares35 · 02-05-2021 02:31PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

both bad luck and good luck are random , beit being hit by a drunk driver or winning the lotto

the person involved did nothing to determine the outcome

I agree! Sorry my post only referred to bad luck as it was a reply but I think the same randomness applies both ways. I just don't think we are born with random good or bad luck mapped out for us.

What's for you won't pass you.

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