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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #8672
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,629 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Just noticed there's 153 in hospital. Surely that's the lowest its been since last summer


  • #8673
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Saw about 30% positivity rate about a week ago, is it still around that?

    Don’t know. But I posted earlier that had a manager briefing today on the situation in our Mumbai and Hyderabad and Ahmedabad offices (c. 10,000 people) and 15-20% of people are out, either with Covid themselves or looking after a relative with Covid. Concern about the ability to support the global operation

    15-20% out at any one time, and that is in a professional setting. It illustrates that the published numbers are meaningless


  • #8674
    Corholio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Just noticed there's 153 in hospital. Surely that's the lowest its been since last summer

    Last October I think.


  • #8675
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Situation in March 30th for Mr Martin public address and before April 5th easing of restrictions.

    7-day average in cases 573
    7-day positivity in testing 3.3%
    In hospital 310
    In ICU 67
    Vaccines administered 802,502


    Current situation and before the government and NPHET confirm the further easing of restrictions.

    7-day average in cases 458
    7-day positivity in testing 2.8%
    In hospital 153
    In ICU 47
    Vaccines administered 1,398,061


  • #8676
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Just noticed there's 153 in hospital. Surely that's the lowest its been since last summer

    Since the first week of October


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  • #8677
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Can't blame the border now either.

    Would make you wonder if all along it was the border counties responsible for the high numbers in N I before, rather than the other way round ? :pac:


  • #8678
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Turtwig wrote: »
    It depends on how long they keep these details for. They may at some stage remove personally identifiable information from their data on positive tests.

    True but very unlikely to be after less than 6 months


  • #8679
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,179 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Just noticed there's 153 in hospital. Surely that's the lowest its been since last summer

    Well considering a lot of the people in hospital with covid picked it up in the hospital and now all health workers are vaccinated its not surprising.

    But no gotta hold firm in case what happened in January happens again even though with vaccines it's now méar impossible.


  • #8680
    Necro
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 57,205 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Would make you wonder if all along it was the border counties responsible for the high numbers in N I before, rather than the other way round ? :pac:

    Probably a bit of both. Do think it's time to let people loose a little more though, especially when it comes to outdoor activities. Hopefully that's reflected in the announcement on Thursday...

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #8681
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    Surely everyone in Donegal has had it at this stage?

    1 in 16 people in Donegal have tested positive. I'm sure the real number who've had it is much much higher.


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  • #8682
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    1 in 16 people in Donegal have tested positive. I'm sure the real number who've had it is much much higher.

    Will save on vaccine doses for that neck of the woods for sure !


  • #8683
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    I’m not sure if this has already been asked, & if it has apologies (am new to this thread ):

    I registered for the vaccine last night. At one stage during the registration it told me I would get a SMS with numbers which I had to use to complete the process. The SMS I got was from a UK number, this right?

    The application did work but why use a 44 number? How


  • #8684
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Would make you wonder if all along it was the border counties responsible for the high numbers in N I before, rather than the other way round ? :pac:

    No it wouldn't, the working girls of the North spread alot to the south.


  • #8685
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    I’m not sure if this has already been asked, & if it has apologies (am new to this thread ):

    I registered for the vaccine last night. At one stage during the registration it told me I would get a SMS with numbers which I had to use to complete the process. The SMS I got was from a UK number, this right?

    The application did work but why use a 44 number? How

    The registration text is a UK number oddly
    But the HSE text with date and time and venue is an Irish one


  • #8686
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Don’t know. But I posted earlier that had a manager briefing today on the situation in our Mumbai and Hyderabad and Ahmedabad offices (c. 10,000 people) and 15-20% of people are out, either with Covid themselves or looking after a relative with Covid. Concern about the ability to support the global operation

    15-20% out at any one time, and that is in a professional setting. It illustrates that the published numbers are meaningless

    Hard to judge that, we have had that figure here in business and schools where that percentage are on the covid list with few cases after, not saying it is not extremely serious, just that statistic is meaningless without more information.


  • #8687
    naughtysmurf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    I’m not sure if this has already been asked, & if it has apologies (am new to this thread ):

    I registered for the vaccine last night. At one stage during the registration it told me I would get a SMS with numbers which I had to use to complete the process. The SMS I got was from a UK number, this right?

    The application did work but why use a 44 number? How

    Yeah, a co-worker mentioned this to me too, assume some or all of this registration process has been outsourced to a UK company possibly


  • #8688
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Saw about 30% positivity rate about a week ago, is it still around that?

    Poland had a 30%+ positivity rate two weeks ago - they are announcing plans tomorrow for a full unlock during the course of May due to plummeting numbers and those who want vaccinations getting them quickly.


  • #8689
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    India has a population of 1,400 million people.

    So if we had 70 deaths a day in Ireland during a given wave, that's the equivalent of 20,000 deaths a day in India.

    On the days we had 100 deaths a day, that's the equivalent of 24,000 deaths a day in India.

    Given that hospital beds are saturated in India and that oxygen supplies are highly limited, and that testing/reporting is weak, the daily deaths reported of 2,500 or so, must be wrong. Positivity rates are between 30-50%, depending on the city.

    It has to be between 10,000 - 20,000 deaths a day, and that's without reaching the peak - which some Indian experts believe is 3-4 weeks away.

    Quite astonishing figures.


  • #8690
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    eskimohunt wrote: »
    India has a population of 1,400 million people.

    So if we had 70 deaths a day in Ireland during a given wave, that's the equivalent of 20,000 deaths a day in India.

    On the days we had 100 deaths a day, that's the equivalent of 24,000 deaths a day in India.

    Given that hospital beds are saturated in India and that oxygen supplies are highly limited, and that testing/reporting is weak, the daily deaths reported of 2,500 or so, must be wrong. Positivity rates are between 30-50%, depending on the city.

    It has to be between 10,000 - 20,000 deaths a day, and that's without reaching the peak - which some Indian experts believe is 3-4 weeks away.

    Quite astonishing figures.

    Some media outlets are actually counting cremations rather than reported deaths.

    I think cremations are between 5 and 10 times the reported deaths in some cases


  • #8691
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Stheno wrote: »
    Some media outlets are actually counting cremations rather than reported deaths.

    I think cremations are between 5 and 10 times the reported deaths in some cases

    Its almost like Hindus believe the physical body serves no purpose and doesn't need to be preserved after death and make an effort to cremate as quickly as possible to facilitate the soul being reincarnated - in NORMAL times.

    RTE shock news is really attempting to trigger the karens and ned flander type viewers, 'ah jaysus, mary, and joseph, they are CREMATING bodies, I knew this was terrible'.

    I'm not sure all of the 'but look at India' people are actually that nice - there's a positive reek of nasty bigotry from some of them.


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  • #8692
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Stheno wrote: »
    Some media outlets are actually counting cremations rather than reported deaths.

    I think cremations are between 5 and 10 times the reported deaths in some cases

    But everybody is cremated covid or otherwise, so that should be no surprise.


  • #8693
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    But everybody is cremated covid or otherwise, so that should be no surprise.

    It's the excess cremations they are looking at/reporting on


  • #8694
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    It's the excess cremations they are looking at/reporting on

    Who is reporting excess cremations etc.

    Perhaps I'm reading too much from Western papers.


  • #8695
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Stheno wrote: »
    It's the excess cremations they are looking at/reporting on

    Takes Ireland more than four months to tot up deaths, and our boyos are professional pen pushers - one wonders what expertise 'media outlets' have in totting the situation in India. I guess they are good with counting ad clicks vs shocking headlines - maybe that skill is transferable?


  • #8696
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,305 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    But everybody is cremated covid or otherwise, so that should be no surprise.

    Not at all. Burial is much more common than most people think. It’s the preferred method in some locations and sects and is more commonplace in the south. Also the more rural areas tend to bury rather than cremate.


  • #8697
    bennyineire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Not at all. Burial is much more common than most people think. It’s the preferred method in some locations and sects and is more commonplace in the south. Also the more rural areas tend to bury rather than cremate.

    Indeed, the country us massive with a huge population and with over 120 languages (not counting dialects). Many different races/religions and cultures.

    Sweeping statements from timsey tiger "But everybody is cremated covid or otherwise, so that should be no surprise." makes them sound positively imperial.

    I wonder has timsey ventured further in the world past Benidorm


  • #8698
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    No it wouldn't, the working girls of the North spread alot to the south.

    I don't quite know how to take that bit of information , Widdensushi :eek:


  • #8699
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    bennyineire wrote: »
    Indeed, the country us massive with a huge population and with over 120 languages (not counting dialects). Many different races/religions and cultures.

    Sweeping statements from timsey tiger "But everybody is cremated covid or otherwise, so that should be no surprise." makes them sound positively imperial.

    I wonder has timsey ventured further in the world past Benidorm

    I wonder might you relate your extensive experience of travelling around India so that you are not mistaken for an absolute spoofer, which I am sure you are not.


  • #8700
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Is it common for people in Indian to put their dead in rivers such as the Ganges for spiritual reasons or is that just a myth?


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  • #8701
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Who is reporting excess cremations etc.

    Perhaps I'm reading too much from Western papers.

    BBC https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56855712.amp
    Deaths estimated at 10x official deaths

    Reuters
    https://www.reuters.com/world/india/non-stop-cremations-cast-doubt-indias-counting-covid-dead-2021-04-19/

    One city reported 25 Covid deaths, 187 Covid protocol cremations


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