Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings

FintanMcluskey · 27-04-2021 09:32PM

Even the mods are joining the dark side of the argument

We will have some army assembled yet

27-04-2021 09:38PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Meehole contradicting himself there.

How does he expect people to spend their savings when there's a half open country due to a paralysed government exercising "caution"

This is what I can’t figure out either. How will they release our money if nothing is open? NI will be getting a lot of it and soon as the travel advice changes it’ll flow straight out. Nobody will pay 3 grand for a wet week in Kerry when it’ll cost half that for a week in Spain. How nobody seems to be able to understand this is beyond me!
I’m really hoping this govt collapses soon tbh. The utter spinelessness of MM is the worst thing of the entire pandemic. At least with Leo you know what’s coming a month before he announces it!

ypres5 · 27-04-2021 09:39PM

Penfailed wrote: »

When I deem it safe. Currently, I don't. When will you be happy to do so?

ypres5 - do you have to 'thank' every single post that's a response to me? I'm flattered like.

Take it up with a moderator if you feel that intimidated

Necro · 27-04-2021 09:41PM

howwatermelon wrote: »

This is what I can’t figure out either. How will they release our money if nothing is open? NI will be getting a lot of it and soon as the travel advice changes it’ll flow straight out. Nobody will pay 3 grand for a wet week in Kerry when it’ll cost half that for a week in Spain. How nobody seems to be able to understand this is beyond me!
I’m really hoping this govt collapses soon tbh. The utter spinelessness of MM is the worst thing of the entire pandemic. At least with Leo you know what’s coming a month before he announces it!

This is why I think there will be more opened faster tbh despite the current chatter, once the pubs open in NI at the end of May it's pretty much gonna be open season for people to start holidaying up there.

Even throw us a bone with some outdoor dining to keep us spending our money in the Republic!

KrustyUCC · 27-04-2021 09:42PM

The government is broke too so that could force things a bit

Allinall · 27-04-2021 09:42PM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

Don't be so hard on yourself. Your musing and thoughts don't make you an idiot. Everyone, even you are entitled to an opinion.

What?

Graham · 27-04-2021 09:43PM

dalyboy wrote: »

Where’s graham lately ? Hehe

watching in varying levels or surprise, amusement and boredom.

Sobit1964 · 27-04-2021 09:43PM

dalyboy wrote: »

Where’s graham lately ? Hehe

He may have went to the beach.

retro:electro · 27-04-2021 09:43PM

Mortified for that lad on Prime Time there who works in a restaurant but doesn’t want to see them open indoors yet because “people will die because of a meal”
More like ya can’t be arsed going back to work yet!

Kivaro · 27-04-2021 09:45PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

One million people vaccinated and the country still in L5.

Who would’ve believed that during the winter?

And the cheerleaders demanding it goes on....

I read this post earlier on. And it got me angry.
The spineless government cabinet in power at the moment are constantly and unfairly moving the goalposts. We are doing what we are told like no other citizens on the planet, but the more we comply, the more we are penalised.

So do we presume that in order to regain our inherent democratic freedoms we do not to comply with their directives? It is embarrassing to think what our country achieved a hundred years ago against the might of the most militarily powerful nation on earth at the time. And now look at us .................. totally subservient to extremely weak social-media-driven leaders.

Where is our pride?

27-04-2021 09:46PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Mortified for that lad on Prime Time there who works in a restaurant but doesn’t want to see them open indoors yet because “people will die because of a meal”
More like ya can’t be arsed going back to work yet!

RTÉ "man on the street" gave him more airtime than those enthusiastic about easing of restrictions. Figures.

Zebra3 · 27-04-2021 09:46PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Oh everyone's vaccinated now? Nobody told me!

Genuinely.....

Why would you make a comment about everyone being vaccinated?

What has that got to do with removing restrictions?

Do you actually think the virus is a threat to 100% of the population?

Because we will never, ever, ever get 100% of the population vaccinated for a variety of reasons.

The vast majority of people that this virus could kill have now got at least one dose of a vaccine which offers huge protection. The vast majority of essential healthcare workers have been vaccinated so we are not going to have weak links in our healthcare personnel numbers smashed.

lawred2 · 27-04-2021 09:47PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Mortified for that lad on Prime Time there who works in a restaurant but doesn’t want to see them open indoors yet because “people will die because of a meal”
More like ya can’t be arsed going back to work yet!

Yeah enjoying the pup alright

Lad hadn't a clue what was going on around him. "numbers are too high" supposedly

Embarrassing for the two of them

giveitholly · 27-04-2021 09:47PM

Won't need a covid passport to get your hair cut

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387126982622826500?s=19

retro:electro · 27-04-2021 09:49PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Yeah enjoying the pup alright

Lad hadn't a clue what was going on around him. "numbers are too high" supposedly

Embarrassing for the two of them

Your one behind him trying not to laugh

Zebra3 · 27-04-2021 09:49PM

giveitholly wrote: »

Won't need a covid passport to get your hair cut

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387126982622826500?s=19

After over a year of suppressing people's civil liberties, there is now a concern of suppressing people's civil liberties. :rolleyes:

And I can't imagine one journalist calling Mehole out on that.

Not sure which is worse, the servility of the people or the collusion by the media.

Necro · 27-04-2021 09:50PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Mortified for that lad on Prime Time there who works in a restaurant but doesn’t want to see them open indoors yet because “people will die because of a meal”
More like ya can’t be arsed going back to work yet!

Actually you bring up a very good point. Our local hotel didn't reopen for the few weeks respite at Christmas because they couldn't get the staff.

Why would they go back to work when they had a nice free Christmas claiming PUP instead of working unsocial hours for only a short period of time before having to go through the whole rigmarole of applying again.

Was very sad to see at the time though for the business, who after a number of failed ownerships had been finally finding their feet in the community before all of this started last year.

27-04-2021 09:50PM

giveitholly wrote: »

Won't need a covid passport to get your hair cut

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387126982622826500?s=19

Well that's amazeballs. I'm right tickled by the inevitable dismissal of a crackpot proposal.

Next.

finalfurlong · 27-04-2021 09:51PM

Necro wrote: »

Under Martin FF do appear to be the more conservative of the two main parties in Government alright, if there wasn't a pandemic and the looming threat of SF I'd say it would have collapsed by now

I cannot understand the trepidation behind reopening all outdoor activites, hugely frustrating with this drip, drip, drip of phased reopening.

Varadker not too different.On tv today he said " main concern is avoiding 4th wave this side of autumn,winter er or possibly er altogether"-so with all vaccinations done in october these clowns have now normalised "waves/lockdowns" as a go to solution to any rise for any reason in hospital admissions.I really despair of this passive cowardly attitude.Minister for Enterprise? him ,Martin and their assortment of nodding dogs in Govt ,Nphet have a neck to be peddling the spin this week that "indoors is the danger"-WTF-how is this line peddled as a policy?The patronising has gone to a new low since the weekend and "let them eat cake" is the most apt description of these fkrs attitude.

giveitholly · 27-04-2021 09:53PM

Necro wrote: »

Actually you bring up a very good point. Our local hotel didn't reopen for the few weeks respite at Christmas because they couldn't get the staff.

Why would they go back to work when they had a nice free Christmas claiming PUP instead of working unsocial hours for only a short period of time before having to go through the whole rigmarole of applying again.

Was very sad to see at the time though for the business, who after a number of failed ownerships had been finally finding their feet in the community before all of this started last year.

Until the PUP is cut then people will continue to support extended lockdowns

bear1 · 27-04-2021 09:53PM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

Poland as the plague[tm] capital of the EU only a few weeks back with 30k plus cases a day [with a SHOCKING 30%+ positivity], have seen the peak of the third wave[tm] - and are announcing plans tomorrow to reopen the economy fully by the end of May. Cases have plummeted.

This of course is helped by vaccines for those who request them.

Ireland is for some reason hanging onto the British variant which already did its rounds earlier than the rest of the continent as some reason to hold firm. Its odd.

Mm I live in Warsaw so I'm curious where you've heard this?
Restaurants have been fully shut since October, retail is pretty much closed (just like in Ireland) they've had a disastrous vaccination programme and have the highest inflation rate in the EU.
Not to mention they also sporadically introduced restrictions on leaving the worst regions which has been on and off.
Just saying, Poland isn't a poster child here.

27-04-2021 09:53PM

Donnelly: "We know we have to slow the vaccination programme down...those are very ambitious targets to hit by the end of June"

The frantic backpedalling has begun in earnest.

Sebastian Dangerfield · 27-04-2021 09:53PM

Ive seen references to easing of restrictions on construction, outdoor sport, personal services etc. Has anyone seen mention of house viewings anywhere?

Necro · 27-04-2021 09:54PM

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387125986773381123?s=19

This is... SLIGHTLY... promising tbf

bear1 · 27-04-2021 09:55PM

Meanwhile in the US

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2021/0427/1212460-us-covid-masks-vaccines/

Stheno · 27-04-2021 09:55PM

Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »

Ive seen references to easing of restrictions on construction, outdoor sport, personal services etc. Has anyone seen mention of house viewings anywhere?

no, it's not been mentioned

Necro wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387125986773381123?s=19

This is... SLIGHTLY... promising tbf

Yes but is it reality, when there is nothing even for outdoor hospitality in May?

lawred2 · 27-04-2021 09:56PM

Necro wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387125986773381123?s=19

This is... SLIGHTLY... promising tbf

Mixed messages Mickey

Inter county travel? No outdoor dining?

He's all over the shop

Kivaro · 27-04-2021 09:56PM

Necro wrote: »

Actually you bring up a very good point. Our local hotel didn't reopen for the few weeks respite at Christmas because they couldn't get the staff.

Why would they go back to work when they had a nice free Christmas claiming PUP instead of working unsocial hours for only a short period of time before having to go through the whole rigmarole of applying again.

Was very sad to see at the time though for the business, who after a number of failed ownerships had been finally finding their feet in the community before all of this started last year.

Well Necro, that opens up a whole other can of worms.
The government made it very easy not to work during the pandemic, and a lot of people would say that they make is easy not work in non-pandemic times also. Our PUP payments are unfathomable to most Europeans.
Disclaimer: I have family on it.

Necro · 27-04-2021 09:57PM

Stheno wrote: »

no, it's not been mentioned

Yes but is it reality, when there is nothing even for outdoor hospitality in May?

I still hold out hope the end of May will see outdoor dining return. NI's reopening will force their hand a little I suspect

km79 · 27-04-2021 09:57PM

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1387133102116511746?s=20

Outdoor dining .....?

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