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Wolf359f · 27-04-2021 12:53PM

snotboogie wrote: »

The improved weekend numbers have taken our 7 day average vaccination rate over 0.5 per hundred per day for the first time ever. This brings us in line with the rest of Western Europe (even though we are still 7-10 days behind in overall vaccination). In my opinion this is the single most important number for us now. Hopefully we can at least maintain this number or maybe push for between 0.6 and 0.7 for May.

Realistically we need to be up close to 1 per day sustained, to come close to the June target. Lots of second jabs needed in the coming weeks and months (apart from the 60-69, their second dose will come from July onwards and obviously any J&J jabs)

seamus · 27-04-2021 12:54PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

COVID protection wise, he didn't mean it literally, just to try and calm her and get her out of her panic attack.

I thought it was a lovely way of putting it!

I can see the Gript article now. "Dublin doctor confirms that pubs and foreign travel will open in June, but only if you have a vaccine cert".

funnydoggy · 27-04-2021 12:55PM

seamus wrote: »

I can see the Gript article now. "Dublin doctor confirms that pubs and foreign travel will open in June, but only if you have a vaccine cert".

Hahahaha what have I potentially done :pac: :pac:

Corholio · 27-04-2021 01:03PM

If only for this month it's just a temporary blow (hopefully)

https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1387012823637762051?s=19

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2021 01:04PM

Corholio wrote: »

If only for this month it's just a temporary blow (hopefully)

https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1387012823637762051?s=19

To be perfectly honest if it were this month and next it wouldn't cause that much of an impact at all. They aren't delivering in significant volume until June

KrustyUCC · 27-04-2021 01:05PM

Corholio wrote: »

If only for this month it's just a temporary blow (hopefully)

https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1387012823637762051?s=19

Hopefully J&J will be like Pfizer and become more reliable after an early blip

Corholio · 27-04-2021 01:06PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

To be perfectly honest if it were this month and next it wouldn't cause that much of an impact at all. They aren't delivering in significant volume until June

132,000 in next month according to the article.

Strazdas · 27-04-2021 01:07PM

Corholio wrote: »

If only for this month it's just a temporary blow (hopefully)

https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1387012823637762051?s=19

This is one reason reason it has been suggested that over 50s receiving one vaccine only may not necessarily be a good idea : it would mean any disruption to that supply sparking off immediate chaos for that cohort.

Chris_5339762 · 27-04-2021 01:07PM

seamus wrote: »

I can see the Gript article now. "Dublin doctor confirms that pubs and foreign travel will open in June, but only if you have a vaccine cert".

DublinLive
"Hellish U-Turn as Dublin doctor confirms vaccine certs REQUIRED for pubs and travel in dramatic news for Ireland"

GLaDOS · 27-04-2021 01:09PM

Corholio wrote: »

If only for this month it's just a temporary blow (hopefully)

https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1387012823637762051?s=19

"The rest of April" , also known as 3 days.

Corholio · 27-04-2021 01:11PM

GLaDOS wrote: »

"The rest of April" , also known as 3 days.

Which...is what I said?

Article states unsure about next month too.

Knex* · 27-04-2021 01:13PM

Corholio wrote: »

If only for this month it's just a temporary blow (hopefully)

https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1387012823637762051?s=19

Rest of April. So, four days max?

Actual impact is that we drop from 26k to 12k. Hardly anything major, especially as next month we're due 132k.

People are sensationalising everything they can these days.

Eod100 · 27-04-2021 01:13PM

Is there any word on whether the gap between 1st and 2nd does will be extended? Or is there no need for that with NIACs recommendations?

GLaDOS · 27-04-2021 01:15PM

Corholio wrote: »

Which...is what I said?

Article states unsure about next month too.

Not having a go at you, just a sensationalist headline.

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2021 01:20PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Is there any word on whether the gap between 1st and 2nd does will be extended? Or is there no need for that with NIACs recommendations?

Doesn't look like there will be
https://twitter.com/JackHoJo/status/1387017054574809089?s=20

snotboogie · 27-04-2021 01:25PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Realistically we need to be up close to 1 per day sustained, to come close to the June target. Lots of second jabs needed in the coming weeks and months (apart from the 60-69, their second dose will come from July onwards and obviously any J&J jabs)

Yep, we lost huge ground in April. Crude calculations from me are that we get to 80 shots per 100 around the middle of July. That's with a 0.6 average in May and and 0.8 average in June. Obviously that's not 80% of the adult population with a vaccine. I assume that would be at around 100 per 100.

If we were to start 1 per 100 per day tomorrow we'd get to 100 in the 10th of July. To get to 100 by the end of June we would need to average 1.1 per 100 per day starting tomorrow.

funnydoggy · 27-04-2021 01:30PM

No extension is a cúnt

27-04-2021 01:32PM

A six week interval is within the manufacturer guidelines and it would have helped speed things up a bit. Not sure why they haven't gone for that at the very least.

FrankN1 · 27-04-2021 01:34PM

Is the gap between Pfizer doses still 4 weeks or being extended?

GLaDOS · 27-04-2021 01:34PM

Can understand keeping it at 4 weeks for vulnerable cohorts. But for, say, healthy under 60s an extension would have been good.

Strazdas · 27-04-2021 01:38PM

FrankN1 wrote: »

Is the gap between Pfizer doses still 4 weeks or being extended?

I'm seeing speculation on Twitter that there is no change to this.

Eod100 · 27-04-2021 01:39PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Doesn't look like there will be
https://twitter.com/JackHoJo/status/1387017054574809089?s=20

Ah nice one!

Russman · 27-04-2021 01:40PM

josip wrote: »

It would be interesting if everyone posting included their age range.
I think that would go a long way to explain why they are happy or annoyed with the latest rollout plan.

I'm in the 40-49 cohort and I'm honestly neither happy nor sad about the plan. A national roll out of 4 vaccines with different characteristics can't be easy to plan and I don't envy the HSE. You're never going to please everyone. My mother had her first AZ shot last week and my dad got his appointment this morning for his second Pfizer one in two weeks, they were my main concerns re COVID tbh.

I'd take any of the vaccines tomorrow if I could, obviously I'd prefer an mRNA one if there was a choice (which there isn't), but I've largely taken the view that what will be will be, let the medical experts make their decisions and I'll get called when I get called.

Strazdas · 27-04-2021 01:46PM

Russman wrote: »

I'm in the 40-49 cohort and I'm honestly neither happy nor sad about the plan. A national roll out of 4 vaccines with different characteristics can't be easy to plan and I don't envy the HSE. You're never going to please everyone. My mother had her first AZ shot last week and my dad got his appointment this morning for his second Pfizer one in two weeks, they were my main concerns re COVID tbh.

I'd take any of the vaccines tomorrow if I could, obviously I'd prefer an mRNA one if there was a choice (which there isn't), but I've largely taken the view that what will be will be, let the medical experts make their decisions and I'll get called when I get called.

That's my view as well. Trying to do it 'tactically' would be crazy and you could end up waiting many months for a vaccine (and even then they mightn't offer you the one you want). Whenever they contact you, go for the vaccine.

FrankN1 · 27-04-2021 01:47PM

Strazdas wrote: »

I'm seeing speculation on Twitter that there is no change to this.

Do we know when it may be confirmed?

Strazdas · 27-04-2021 01:52PM

FrankN1 wrote: »

Do we know when it may be confirmed?

Probably tonight I would think when the official J & J and AZ statements are announced.

Corholio · 27-04-2021 02:01PM

No spacing out. Not sure what to make of it.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387025807688744960?s=19

JPA · 27-04-2021 02:01PM

Knex* wrote: »

People are sensationalising everything they can these days.

People? More like journalists.

pc7 · 27-04-2021 02:02PM

Corholio wrote: »

No spacing out. Not sure what to make of it.

Wonder is it logistics and whatever formula HSE is using for the rollout? Remember at the start they were using a spreadsheet for cases that collapsed!

funnydoggy · 27-04-2021 02:03PM

Corholio wrote: »

No spacing out. Not sure what to make of it.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387025807688744960?s=19

This abundance of caution bullshít needs to end.

Who was it said to not let perfect be the enemy of good?

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