Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

adam240610 · 26-04-2021 08:41AM

JTMan wrote: »

A new Irish vaccine hesitancy survey has occurred as reported in the Indo here.

- Percentage of the population willing to take a Covid-19 vaccine has risen to 85pc overall, up from 75pc in January.
- 6pc of people saying they will refuse a vaccine when it is offered to them – down from 7pc earlier this year.
- Around 10pc are “unsure” – down from 18pc earlier this year.
- Hesitancy greatest in younger groups. One in 10 people aged 25 to 34 say they will not get a Covid-19 jab.

The Irish government need to target the "unsures"/"could not be bothered". The NY, there is now no requirement to book, you can just show up, that helps. In the UK they are rolling out an advertisement campaign (good advert) aimed at younger groups.

We might end up with one of the highest uptakes in europe with these levels

is_that_so · 26-04-2021 08:45AM

JTMan wrote: »

The NIAC meeting is today on the J&J vaccine.

It would be fairly surprising to see them run counter to every other national body and you'd realistically expect approval for all groups.

Pablo Escobar · 26-04-2021 08:54AM

Just under 26k vaccines administered on Saturday. That blows the previous Saturday high out of the water.

TheDoctor · 26-04-2021 08:58AM

Is the target for this week 250k?

is_that_so · 26-04-2021 09:05AM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Is the target for this week 250k?

Maybe 200K, deliveries are supposed to be in and around 250K this week.

funnydoggy · 26-04-2021 09:09AM

+ 25,832

Last Saturday was + 15,276

Van.Bosch · 26-04-2021 09:11AM

177,294 this week wit Sunday still to be added. Considering the MVCs were open I’d expect another 10-15,000 to give 187-192,000.

A good week

GLaDOS · 26-04-2021 09:15AM

200K plus definitely be doable this week, fingers crossed there's no snags.

Vicxas · 26-04-2021 09:26AM

I read somewhere AZ are sending more does this week rather than next week? Should help with the over 60's

stephenjmcd · 26-04-2021 09:34AM

GLaDOS wrote: »

200K plus definitely be doable this week, fingers crossed there's no snags.

Would say 200k is doable accounting for deliveries and the need to hold back a small amount of each etc.

Hoping to get a text early this week for my father. We registered last Monday so with supply increasing hopefully the appointment isn't far behind

seamus · 26-04-2021 09:43AM

Vicxas wrote: »

I read somewhere AZ are sending more does this week rather than next week? Should help with the over 60's

Yeah, the delivery which we were supposed to get this week was pushed back by a week, but apparently now it's been restored.

I'm very hopeful for a bumper week this week. We shouldn't have the same stop-start cadence we had before because we're now just burning through the 65-69 group in MVCs, which run 7 days a week, rather than trying to co-ordinate with hospitals and GPs, who may not operate their clinics on weekends.

Which means that we should be able to run 20,000+ on both Monday and Tuesday, if not more.

GLaDOS · 26-04-2021 09:47AM

Some good news on the J&J vaccine could help things along too.

Russman · 26-04-2021 09:48AM

is_that_so wrote: »

It would be fairly surprising to see them run counter to every other national body and you'd realistically expect approval for all groups.

I'd say this will be the case alright. Have many/any other countries restricted J&J ? I think I read that Sweden abandoned it altogether, but can't think of any others with age restrictions.

Vicxas · 26-04-2021 09:48AM

GLaDOS wrote: »

Some good news on the J&J vaccine could help things along too.

Its hopefully going to be a good news week with the announcement of restriction easing and hopefully J&J given the green light for everyone

revelman · 26-04-2021 09:55AM

Russman wrote: »

I'd say this will be the case alright. Have many/any other countries restricted J&J ? I think I read that Sweden abandoned it altogether, but can't think of any others with age restrictions.

Italy

Lumen · 26-04-2021 09:57AM

revelman wrote: »

Italy

France and Spain too, I think.

VinLieger · 26-04-2021 09:59AM

So I heard something on the radio a few a few weeks back that confused me when AZ was being stopped for the under 65s, someone was reporting any health care workers who had 1 shot of AZ would instead be getting a 2nd shot of Pfizer or Moderna. How is this possible since they are based on 2 different vaccine technologies?

Russman · 26-04-2021 09:59AM

revelman wrote: »

Italy

Lumen wrote: »

France and Spain too, I think.

Ahh ok, so we wouldn't be total outliers if we did similar.

Red Silurian · 26-04-2021 10:01AM

GLaDOS wrote: »

Some good news on the J&J vaccine could help things along too.

I notice a bit more news about Minimum Unit Alcohol Pricing in recent days. Considering the government strategy of distracting from bad news using more bad news I'd worry that the J&J news might not be good... Same minister if you think about it

muddypuppy · 26-04-2021 10:04AM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

177,294 this week wit Sunday still to be added. Considering the MVCs were open I’d expect another 10-15,000 to give 187-192,000.

A good week

We reached 1 million doses on Sunday, so that's 12-13k first doses + the second doses. I think it will be around 16-17k. I think it would be pretty amazing to reach 200k in a week, but it feels like a big milestone that would have been shared by Paul Reid or someone else - still very close. Great progress.

is_that_so · 26-04-2021 10:05AM

Russman wrote: »

Ahh ok, so we wouldn't be total outliers if we did similar.

No, but our use of J&J would come to an end in a few short weeks if we do that.

KrustyUCC · 26-04-2021 10:09AM

is_that_so wrote: »

It would be fairly surprising to see them run counter to every other national body and you'd realistically expect approval for all groups.

NIAC will need to be better than other nations due to an 'abundance of caution

I'd still be shocked if they don't slap age restrictions on J&J

FrankN1 · 26-04-2021 10:09AM

When are they due to start 20-30s?

Vicxas · 26-04-2021 10:12AM

FrankN1 wrote: »

When are they due to start 20-30s?

June(ish) all going well

Lumen · 26-04-2021 10:15AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

NIAC will need to be better than other nations due to an 'abundance of caution

I'd still be shocked if they don't slap age restrictions on J&J

I don't think it's completely unreasonable to provide young people (who themselves are at almost zero risk from COVID) with the vaccines having the least bad side effects, i.e. the mRNA vaccines, as long as that can be accommodated without delaying the rollout.

If we end up with a couple of twenty-somethings dead from clotting events because it was too much effort to manage the streams of vaccines a bit better, then that would be...I'm looking for the right word...tragic? regrettable? incompetent? I don't know.

is_that_so · 26-04-2021 10:16AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

NIAC will need to be better than other nations due to an 'abundance of caution

I'd still be shocked if they don't slap age restrictions on J&J

They can but they also know that will delay the vaccination programme and Butler does seem keen to get people vaccinated as fast as we can. I won't be surprised either way but logic suggests they should approve it for all.

Christy42 · 26-04-2021 10:20AM

is_that_so wrote: »

They can but they also know that will delay the vaccine programme and Butler does seem keen to get people vaccinated as fast as we can. I won't be surprised either way but logic suggests they should approve it for all.

It was women under 30 that the issue so maybe they could do it that way? I can't see why the need to stop it entirely, it hasn't shown to be that prevalent and the US is using it again.

We should absolutely approve it. If there is some mild restrictions that is fine and easily worked around.

Especially as we haven't excelled ourselves on delivery so far and any downside has to be measured against more people getting covid from the delay.

revelman · 26-04-2021 10:21AM

Lumen wrote: »

I don't think it's completely unreasonable to provide young people (who themselves are at almost zero risk from COVID) with the vaccines having the least bad side effects, i.e. the mRNA vaccines, as long as that can be accommodated without delaying the rollout.

If we end up with a couple of twenty-somethings dead from clotting events because it was too much effort to manage the streams of vaccines a bit better, then that would be...I'm looking for the right word...tragic? regrettable? incompetent? I don't know.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-probing-link-between-pfizer-shot-and-heart-problem-in-men-under-30/

KrustyUCC · 26-04-2021 10:22AM

is_that_so wrote: »

They can but they also know that will delay the vaccination programme and Butler does seem keen to get people vaccinated as fast as we can. I won't be surprised either way but logic suggests they should approve it for all.

I hope you're right

Lumen · 26-04-2021 10:22AM

revelman wrote: »

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-probing-link-between-pfizer-shot-and-heart-problem-in-men-under-30/

I'm not even sure whether that's good or bad news. Both?

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