Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Indeed. But there arent very many people interested in just flying to Spain and back.

Would hazard a guess that if it was an option over the summer there would be several hundred thousand takers for this

normanoffside wrote: »

All this has happened regularly in Australia and New Zealand where detainees acquire infection in MHQ.
MHQ itself is actually dangerous and a source of infection.

We knew this would happen, it was obvious that packing people into hotels would be dangerous with an airborne virus.

Now we have the story about to hit the news of the Italian father who can't go to his sons funeral.

The people who wanted this quarantine implemented with no thought given to those it will affect should be named and shamed for years to come.

Red Silurian wrote: »

The talk I'm hearing here it'll be lockdown #4 in September

1 in 4 now vaccinated. They’re mostly the people who could die. Hate to disappoint you, but the misery is over!

Valhallapt wrote: »

1 in 4 now vaccinated. They’re mostly the people who could die. Hate to disappoint you, but the misery is over!

End of June I'd say this ends as most people will have been offered a vaccine. End of July at the latest. We should be seeing something similar to Israel as cases decline even as society reopens.

Vaccinated people will want to start travelling then, and good luck to the politician who is still supporting MHQ at that time.

Blut2 wrote: »

Airports and flights have been statistically proven to not be a risk, because social distancing and mask wearing is ubiquitous, and the air is so filtered.

Someone is far more likely to catch covid attending a social event in a house with 10 friends in Dublin than on the journey flying to Spain and back.

One does not negate the other. And as with all international travel - it's the risks of mingling with and criss crossing paths with potentially hundreds of other travellers on transport, on flights themselves and at hotels etc

And hardly surprisingly some of that being pushed about flights not being a risk seems to be the travel industry itself.

Meanwhile in the real world- there is an increasing body of evidence to indicates that flying increases risk of contacting covid.

Perhaps the most extensive research of transmission after pre-travel testing comes from the New Zealand Ministry of Health, which joined with other researchers to study seven infected people who traveled aboard Emirates Flight 448 from Dubai to Auckland on Sept. 29.

Two of the seven were likely infected before traveling but had tested negative in Zurich, Switzerland, within 72 hours of departing on their trip. Four of the seven were likely infected in-flight, the study found, and another likely during mandatory 14-day quarantine in New Zealand required of all passengers.

All seven people had genetically identical strains of the virus, even though the passengers had originated in five different countries. All seven sat within two rows of the presumed spreaders, and all were in aisle seats, the study reported. Travelers reported wearing masks and some wore gloves. There were 86 passengers on the Boeing 777.

Thst said I do have to laugh at those who generally don't consider covid anything more than a type of 'flu' or similar who regardless claim that MHQ hotels themselves are unequivocally the source of infection for passengers. Funnily enough that doesn't really stand up to quarantine data to date.

From just one known incident in Australia.

Melbourne saw this last July when a quarantined traveller infected a hotel guard, who unwittingly took the virus into the community. The resulting outbreak accounts for over 90% of Australia's 29,000 cases and 909 deaths to date.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55929180

And people wonder why we have quarantine? I would hope that hotel staff in MHQ are being prioritised as frontline workers

meath4sam wrote: »

Why is India not on our hotel quarantine list yet?

Because our list is a complete shambles and our MHQ system an embarrassment.

Does anyone know what sort of checks are being carried out on people who quarentine at home, flying in from UK. The journey falls under the essential criteria for travel set out. Can you go for a walk... I see the MHQ are brought out for exercise/fresh air. Thanks

gozunda wrote: »

The Travel Group and the chief medical officer meets every two weeks. Afaik India is already up for inclusion.

The UK only added India onto their red list - effective yesterday.

Will they discuss exemptions to the MHQ exemptions list. I feel like people with expiring work visas should not have to quarantine in the hotel. I am in Canada and my visa is coming to an end.

I am able to quarantine at home.

It's a serious extra burden trying to finance this with flights on top.

normanoffside wrote: »

This is what our country has become. I hope everyone wanting MHQ is proud.

https://twitter.com/peterdooleydub/status/1385613001005350918?s=21

It’s barbaric. I’m ashamed to be Irish. Not in my name.

saabsaab wrote: »

Nonsense. It is a temporary and useful public health measure. What happened before only let Covid strains in without a stop. I'm sure that it could be improved though.

It’s the 83 year olds we are supposed to be protecting, not stopping them attending their own children’s funeral.
A bit of perspective here please.