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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #7622
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,505 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Why is it that Ireland are seemingly the only country in Europe that's not able to host games for the Euros at a reduced capacity?

    I know it's a small issue, but it really bugs me.

    What makes us different from everywhere else?

    We've got one of the lowest incidence rates in the continent. Hence we should be one of the most likely to host games, not the least.


  • #7623
    BlondeBomb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    166 in hospital this morning.

    48 in ICU.


  • #7624
    JP100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    lawred2 wrote: »
    :D

    Really? Not even London? Could they have tried to get any further away?

    The 3 group stage matches have been moved to St. Petersburg and the last 16 match scheduled for Dublin has been moved to London.


  • #7625
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Whatever about people desperately needing haircuts and pints, complaining about a football match being cancelled seems to verge on forgetting there is actually a pandemic going on..


  • #7626
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,790 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    seamus wrote: »
    Glad there was no bowing to pressure to allow large crowds at matches before time.

    Germany & Spain likewise told UEFA where to go over their demands for spectators.

    no fans at all at games in Germany or Spain?


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  • #7627
    JP100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    lawred2 wrote: »
    state/taxpayer can expect to dig even deeper now to keep the FAI afloat...

    Yep.


  • #7628
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Hospital numbers at 8pm last night (a bit late)

    Total 165 (down from 172 night before)
    ICU 48 (up from 47 night before - 1 death)

    Last Thursday
    Total 192
    ICU 50


    Lowest total numbers in hospital this year.

    Highest Mater - 18 people
    24/29 with 10 or less people


  • #7629
    Parachutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Parachutes


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Whatever about people desperately needing haircuts and pints, complaining about a football match being cancelled seems to verge on forgetting there is actually a pandemic going on..

    The pandemic has no clothes.


  • #7630
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,063 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    seamus wrote: »
    Glad there was no bowing to pressure to allow large crowds at matches before time.

    Germany & Spain likewise told UEFA where to go over their demands for spectators.

    Did they? Cos from what I can see Bilbao games moved to Sevilla (so still in Spain) and Munich is still happening. We're actually the only one to say no completely as a country.


  • #7631
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Allinall wrote: »
    That's not really answering the question, though.

    As far as I am aware, we are administering 95-97% of vaccines within one week of receipt.

    That's what people are saying, not sure how that's possible if we have the lowest vaccination rate in Western Europe for the last two weeks.


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  • #7632
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,790 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    lawred2 wrote: »
    no fans at all at games in Germany or Spain?

    I'm just reading now...

    Bilbao out with Dublin

    But Munich all good. I don't understand the different treatment!


  • #7633
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Ficheall wrote: »
    On second thought, probably more useful is the chart for just first vaxxes - forgive my 1337 mspaint skillz.

    First vax only, red has been administered, green is the targeted 80%. (Again, these were Jan's predictions, the vaxxed groupings aren't accurate, just using it for total numbers because it's just an easy chart to mess with; and it will be inaccurate near the end of the yellow because there should be a higher percentage of seconds etc.)


    551089.png


    Are you saying that they can vaccinate 80% of the adult population without vaccinating anyone between 18 and 54?
    That doesn't sound right.


  • #7634
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,790 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    titan18 wrote: »
    Did they? Cos from what I can see Bilbao games moved to Sevilla (so still in Spain) and Munich is still happening. We're actually the only one to say no completely as a country.

    ah ok

    so the only country to be dumped completely is Ireland!


  • #7635
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,063 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    lawred2 wrote: »
    I'm just reading now...

    Bilbao out with Dublin

    But Munich all good. I don't understand the different treatment!

    Bilbao has moved to Sevilla, and Munich are allowing fans now as they can allow for 14,500 fans in the stadium.


  • #7636
    TanookiMario
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭TanookiMario


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Whatever about people desperately needing haircuts and pints, complaining about a football match being cancelled seems to verge on forgetting there is actually a pandemic going on..

    Isn't the issue more that other nations nearby are able to have all of these things at this time and we seem to be the only country that isn't.

    As far as I can tell the UK still had click and collect available all the way through their recent lockdown yet we are sitting over here still unable to order something and just go and pick it up.

    The football is the most laughable situation of all. 12 countries across Europe all able to host matches. Here we are still unable to sort ourselves out.

    Its OK for us to be so far behind because football isn't important?


  • #7637
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    josip wrote: »
    Are you saying that they can vaccinate 80% of the adult population without vaccinating anyone between 18 and 54?
    That doesn't sound right.
    I am not. I am just doing some colouring in.
    This was FG's original chart, and yes, it was questionable.

    My colouring in was just based on the assumption that each yellow block was the same size - it's probably best to ignore the x-axis "labels" entirely.
    Will amend that accordingly if I ever post similar again.


  • #7638
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,790 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    titan18 wrote: »
    Bilbao has moved to Sevilla, and Munich are allowing fans now as they can allow for 14,500 fans in the stadium.

    They must had agreed to that at the last minute.


  • #7639
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,790 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    TanookiMario wrote: »
    Isn't the issue more that other nations nearby are able to have all of these things at this time and we seem to be the only country that isn't.

    As far as I can tell the UK still had click and collect available all the way through their recent lockdown yet we are sitting over here still unable to order something and just go and pick it up.

    The football is the most laughable situation of all. 12 countries across Europe all able to host matches. Here we are still unable to sort ourselves out.

    Its OK for us to be so far behind because football isn't important?

    I think the argument is that all these other countries don't care about people's lives.


  • #7640
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    lawred2 wrote: »
    I think the argument is that all these other countries don't care about people's lives.

    They are all trying to kill their vaccinated grannies!!!


  • #7641
    JP100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    lawred2 wrote: »
    ah ok

    so the only country to be dumped completely is Ireland!

    That's the point, it's damning.


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  • #7642
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,790 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    JP100 wrote: »
    That's the point, it's damning.

    Tony will be happy anyway. Less alcohol consumed.


  • #7643
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/apr/22/coronavirus-johnson-eu-states-begin-using-single-dose-covid-vaccine

    Again it appears we are behind most in Europe...


  • #7644
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,997 ✭✭✭Russman


    TanookiMario wrote: »
    Isn't the issue more that other nations nearby are able to have all of these things at this time and we seem to be the only country that isn't.

    As far as I can tell the UK still had click and collect available all the way through their recent lockdown yet we are sitting over here still unable to order something and just go and pick it up.

    The football is the most laughable situation of all. 12 countries across Europe all able to host matches. Here we are still unable to sort ourselves out.

    Its OK for us to be so far behind because football isn't important?

    In fairness and regardless of football, no two countries will be at the same stage in their pandemic or progress through their pandemic at the same pace. Our low ICU capacity has been a millstone around our necks all the way through this. We opened in December when lots were shutting down, we shut down in October when others weren't. Everyone has been doing it slightly differently.


  • #7645
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    TanookiMario wrote: »
    Isn't the issue more that other nations nearby are able to have all of these things at this time and we seem to be the only country that isn't.
    ...
    Its OK for us to be so far behind because football isn't important?
    I'd definitely agree our vaccines are slow, and would agree on click and collect - I just meant that a football match seems like it should be pretty far down the list of things we should prioritise "reopening" from a risk/reward point of view.


  • #7646
    TanookiMario
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭TanookiMario


    seamus wrote: »
    Glad there was no bowing to pressure to allow large crowds at matches before time.

    Germany & Spain likewise told UEFA where to go over their demands for spectators.

    Yeah, I was just thinking that. Glad we are the only nation out of 12 who are unable to host matches.

    The thought of those eleven other nations making moves to safely allow people to enjoy an event and to get out of lockdown and enjoy their lives just makes me laugh. The fools!

    Are we out of touch?
    No, it's the rest of Europe who are wrong!

    You can't even begin to imagine how angry I would have been watching people allowed to get out there and have a good time and enjoy themselves with a nice and safe and socially distanced (25% capacity) football match.

    When the pubs finally open it will destroy me.


  • #7647
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,790 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/apr/22/coronavirus-johnson-eu-states-begin-using-single-dose-covid-vaccine

    Again it appears we are behind most in Europe...

    Perpetual laggards paralyzed by risk averse cowards


  • #7648
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    TanookiMario wrote: »
    Yeah, I was just thinking that. Glad we are the only nation out of 12 who are unable to host matches.

    The thought of those eleven other nations making moves to safely allow people to enjoy an event and to get out of lockdown and enjoy their lives just makes me laugh. The fools!

    Are we out of touch?
    No, it's the rest of Europe who are wrong!

    You can't even begin to imagine how angry I would have been watching people allowed to get out there and have a good time and enjoy themselves with a nice and safe and socially distanced (25% capacity) football match.

    When the pubs finally open it will destroy me.


    Hold firm


  • #7649
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,790 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hold firm

    Next two weeks are crucial


  • #7650
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/apr/22/coronavirus-johnson-eu-states-begin-using-single-dose-covid-vaccine

    Again it appears we are behind most in Europe...

    6 countries is most of Europe now?


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  • #7651
    JP100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    Ficheall wrote: »
    I'd definitely agree our vaccines are slow, and would agree on click and collect - I just meant that a football match seems like it should be pretty far down the list of things we should prioritise "reopening" from a risk/reward point of view.

    It's about looking at the bigger picture and it's damning that we are the only host country unable to host matches over the summer. It really tells you where we're at presently vis-a-vis our neighbouring countries.


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