Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

Red Silurian · 22-04-2021 05:31PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Eh, you missed poster posts stupid post!

I would not be one to use such language against you

caveat emptor · 22-04-2021 05:52PM

Wow. 4.8% of people arriving from India into the UK between 25 March and 7 April tested positive.

All had negative PCR negative test before departure.

https://twitter.com/BWDDPH/status/1384932561701441539?s=20

Blut2 · 22-04-2021 05:53PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

You forgot to mention "pick up COVID, bring it back, possibly kill an elderly family member and close up the economy" which is the problem, beggars belief that some people like you aren't smart enough to see that

If you go on holiday to a region with a lower covid incident rate than Ireland (plenty of which exist), you're significantly statistically less likely to infect a family member when you come home than if you'd spent the prior week or two in Ireland before seeing them.

Thats also even before you take into account the reduced risk given the pre-departure PCR test, and post-arrival PCR test, that are now necessary.

lawred2 · 22-04-2021 05:55PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

You forgot to mention "pick up COVID, bring it back, possibly kill an elderly family member and close up the economy" which is the problem, beggars belief that some people like you aren't smart enough to see that

A good old Helen Lovejoy response there

is_that_so · 22-04-2021 06:00PM

lawred2 wrote: »

A good old Helen Lovejoy response there

For other posters, like me, who have no idea what this reference is, Google tells me it's some Simpsons character!

Corholio · 22-04-2021 06:15PM

There's people on here who said they haven't been stressed in a year except for the rugby. Why would people bother in the least wondering what they have to say about it all? The likes of this commenting on travel is hilarious.

22-04-2021 06:22PM

is_that_so wrote: »

For other posters, like me, who have no idea what this reference is, Google tells me it's some Simpsons character!

Oh to be young again

Red Silurian · 22-04-2021 06:29PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Wow. 4.8% of people arriving from India into the UK between 25 March and 7 April tested positive.

All had negative PCR negative test before departure.

https://twitter.com/BWDDPH/status/1384932561701441539?s=20

Wait a minute... How did they catch it if they had a negative PCR test? I thought that the negative PCR vaccinated you

Blut2 wrote: »

If you go on holiday to a region with a lower covid incident rate than Ireland (plenty of which exist), you're significantly statistically less likely to infect a family member when you come home than if you'd spent the prior week or two in Ireland before seeing them.

Thats also even before you take into account the reduced risk given the pre-departure PCR test, and post-arrival PCR test, that are now necessary.

This is true as long as the holiday region you go to doesn't let people from a highly infectious region in... Last summer Cyprus had an incidence rate similar to Ireland of about 3 then they opened up most notably to brits

Red Silurian · 22-04-2021 06:44PM

Corholio wrote: »

There's people on here who said they haven't been stressed in a year except for the rugby. Why would people bother in the least wondering what they have to say about it all? The likes of this commenting on travel is hilarious.

If it's me you're talking about I'm only stating the facts, maybe it's the ones you don't like or just don't have a good answer to

22-04-2021 06:55PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

Wait a minute... How did they catch it if they had a negative PCR test? I thought that the negative PCR vaccinated you

They caught it from the staff on the plane and in the airport when they arrived

RebelButtMunch · 22-04-2021 07:09PM

exitfee wrote: »

Must be something up with incubation period with Indian one or the nasal PCR tests not being good enough to catch it early, might have to use anal one's on Indian travellers.

Loads of anecdotal stories of nasal PCR tests catching it very late and lateral flow tests not picking it up at all. Hong Kong had people in isolation from India tesing negative 10 days in hotel quarantine and testing positive on 13th day.

I heard singapore are enforcing 2 weeks in a hotel AND 1 week at home quarantine..edit: only for India

Natterjack from Kerry · 22-04-2021 07:57PM

Blut2 wrote: »

If you go on holiday to a region with a lower covid incident rate than Ireland (plenty of which exist), you're significantly statistically less likely to infect a family member when you come home than if you'd spent the prior week or two in Ireland before seeing them.

Thats also even before you take into account the reduced risk given the pre-departure PCR test, and post-arrival PCR test, that are now necessary.

Not necessarily. What you can do, and your chances of becoming infected are reduced here because we can restrict what you do. Abroad, we cannot control you. And you probability of people going abroad on holiday to stay away from other people is low to negligible. So even if the rate is higher here than in the prospective holiday country, people staying here have a significantly statistically LOWER probability of infecting a family member.
That is why travel for holidays is curtailed.

Valhallapt · 22-04-2021 08:03PM

DessieJames wrote: »

its like this follks, you can either sit at home depressed and hoping these parasites in government alllow you to go on holiday which they probably wont, or just ignore the constant doom and gloom and scaremongering and just go on holiday, thats exactly what i done last summer, and i will be doing the exact same this summer too,in fact ive taken numerous flights without any issues since this started.

Staying at home in a €250 a night hotel ,lucky to get a pint , you cant go anywhere because it'll likely rain isnt my idea of a holiday its misery.

The choice is yours, sit at home wishing your life away, or just ignore the scaremongering as everyone appears to be doing now and just go abroad and enjoy your holiday.

its that simple.

I gave up my holiday last year, at much personal expense.

The vulnerable are pretty much vaccinated at this stage, everyone over 50 will be vaccinated by mid June at the latest.

I’m not putting my life on hold as some people are suggesting that some yet unknown variant might emerge. We didn’t get a warning about this pandemic, we won’t get a warning about the next one either, can’t live in fear. Once the people who might die from covid are vaccinated, it’s time to get back to normal and enjoy life, and foreign travel!

caveat emptor · 22-04-2021 08:03PM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

I heard singapore are enforcing 2 weeks in a hotel AND 1 week at home quarantine..edit: only for India

Yeah just read they've actually changed it to an additional 7 days in "a managed facility"

So that's a full 21 days in managed quarantine. They must know something we don't.

https://twitter.com/DamianTheAussie/status/1385210428184141826?s=20

https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/updates-on-border-measures-for-travellers-from-india-westlite-woodlands-dormitory-cluster-and-additional-precautions-for-recovered-persons

beggars_bush · 22-04-2021 08:12PM

Blut2 wrote: »

If you go on holiday to a region with a lower covid incident rate than Ireland (plenty of which exist), you're significantly statistically less likely to infect a family member when you come home than if you'd spent the prior week or two in Ireland before seeing them.

Thats also even before you take into account the reduced risk given the pre-departure PCR test, and post-arrival PCR test, that are now necessary.

Bull
Because the people who will still go on a foreign jollier are probably the same who won't adhere to restrictions here

saabsaab · 22-04-2021 08:24PM

beggars_bush wrote: »

Bull
Because the people who will still go on a foreign jollier are the probably the same who won't adhere to restrictions here

Without doubt they are. Because by doing so they are already breaking current restrictions.

0lddog · 22-04-2021 09:08PM

A monument should be erected over this thread

"Marking where the hard lockdowners made their last stand"

saabsaab · 22-04-2021 09:12PM

0lddog wrote: »

A monument should be erected over this thread

"Marking where the hard lockdowners made their last stand"

Reasonable people.

caveat emptor · 22-04-2021 09:19PM

0lddog wrote: »

A monument should be erected over this thread

"Marking where the hard lockdowners made their last stand"

What kind of monument? A tombstone? A cross perhaps?

faceman · 22-04-2021 09:32PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

What kind of monument? A tombstone? A cross perhaps?

Not everyone who gets covid gets sick, or ends up in hospital or dies.

A tad dramatic pal

caveat emptor · 22-04-2021 09:34PM

faceman wrote: »

Not everyone who gets covid gets sick, or ends up in hospital or dies.

A tad dramatic pal

Nobody said they did. A tad sensitive mate.

Valhallapt · 22-04-2021 09:48PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

What kind of monument? A tombstone? A cross perhaps?

A cross would be most fitting, the hard lock downers remind me of the 1950s Catholic Church hardliners, people with children abroad are the new fallen women.

saabsaab · 22-04-2021 09:50PM

Valhallapt wrote: »

A cross would be most fitting, the hard lock downers remind me of the 1950s Catholic Church hardliners, people with children abroad are the new fallen women.

5,000 dead and you talk about those who want to reduce the risk!

normanoffside · 22-04-2021 09:56PM

saabsaab wrote: »

5,000 dead and you talk about those who want to reduce the risk!

Multiples of 5,000 have died in Ireland since the pandemic has begun and the average age of a 'with covid' death is well above that of all other deaths.
When we are still finding people who died as far back as 4-5 months ago 'with covid' you have to question the numbers as the prominent coroner recently did.

We also had minimal to no excess deaths in the first 9 months of 2020 (figures for the last 3 months of 2020 have still to be released).

Valhallapt · 22-04-2021 10:00PM

saabsaab wrote: »

5,000 dead and you talk about those who want to reduce the risk!

Trampolines

Valhallapt · 22-04-2021 10:05PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Multiples of 5,000 have died in Ireland since the pandemic has begun and the average age of a 'with covid' death is well above that of all other deaths.
When we are still finding people who died as far back as 4-5 months ago 'with covid' you have to question the numbers as the prominent coroner recently did.

We also had minimal to no excess deaths in the first 9 months of 2020 (figures for the last 3 months of 2020 have still to be released).

A prime time study suggested 3200 deaths from covid.

faceman · 22-04-2021 10:06PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Nobody said they did. A tad sensitive mate.

Somebody was implying that without committing. A tad facetious pal.

normanoffside · 22-04-2021 10:07PM

Valhallapt wrote: »

A prime time study suggested 3200 deaths from covid.

A lot less so given it's Prime Time

Valhallapt · 22-04-2021 10:10PM

saabsaab wrote: »

5,000 dead and you talk about those who want to reduce the risk!

I’m sure you mean well in your own way. But with all those at risk groups vaccinated, it’s now time to stop with the hysteria. In a couple of weeks as vaccinations pick up pace, the sky will feel more blue, and maybe you’ll have a bit more perspective.

Corholio · 22-04-2021 11:44PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

If it's me you're talking about I'm only stating the facts, maybe it's the ones you don't like or just don't have a good answer to

It's only obvious it's you cos not many others would say such an obnoxious thing in a covid forum and expect people to take any further opinions seriously. Bunker down and watch replays of the rugby, I'm sure someone will tap on the window to let you know you unfortunately have to stress again once it's over.

Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

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