Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

is_that_so · 22-04-2021 07:13PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Where are you seeing this ?

I saw it on breaking news - a comment from Eamonn Ryan.

Here too.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0422/1211323-covid-ireland/

22-04-2021 07:15PM

PaulJoseph22 wrote: »

Has anyone had the Moderna vaccine? Is it as good as Pfizer? I know that it’s MNRA as is Pfizer. It’s rarely mentioned?

I am trying to find this out too, I have been researching the past few hours but can't seem to getuch info on it. Is there much difference between it and Pfizer does anyone know, is the gap 4 weeks?

Goldengirl · 22-04-2021 07:18PM

B2021M wrote: »

Totally agree. A country that fought two world wars will always have a better response to a crisis. They have a different psyche and approach to risk.

Certainly gung ho!:pac:

leahyl · 22-04-2021 07:18PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I am trying to find this out too, I have been researching the past few hours but can't seem to getuch info on it. Is there much difference between it and Pfizer does anyone know, is the gap 4 weeks?

Gap is 4 weeks also I think

B2021M · 22-04-2021 07:19PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Certainly gung ho!:pac:

Maybe but there is a happy medium!

is_that_so · 22-04-2021 07:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I am trying to find this out too, I have been researching the past few hours but can't seem to getuch info on it. Is there much difference between it and Pfizer does anyone know, is the gap 4 weeks?

Yes, 4 weeks for each now. Have you seen this link? It's pretty clear.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison

Stheno · 22-04-2021 07:21PM

PaulJoseph22 wrote: »

Has anyone had the Moderna vaccine? Is it as good as Pfizer? I know that it’s MNRA as is Pfizer. It’s rarely mentioned?

My mother got it, and had no side effects

22-04-2021 07:21PM

The societal effects of restricting these vaccines need to be considered. This is ****ing madness

is_that_so · 22-04-2021 07:23PM

AdamD wrote: »

The societal effects of restricting these vaccines need to be considered. This is ****ing madness

To an extent but they do know that another mRNA vaccine , CureVac, will be here soon enough and they prefer those mRNA options.

TheDoctor · 22-04-2021 07:24PM

is_that_so wrote: »

To an extent but they do know that another mRNA vaccine , CureVac, will be here soon enough and they prefer those mRNA options.

If all goes well when could we see that in Ireland? End of the summer?

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 22-04-2021 07:24PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I saw it on breaking news - a comment from Eamonn Ryan.

Here too.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0422/1211323-covid-ireland/

George Lee says there's about 600k people between the ages of 50-60 and 600k J&J vaccines. Might work out grand so.

22-04-2021 07:25PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Yes, 4 weeks for each now. Have you seen this link? It's pretty clear.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison

Thank you hadn't seen that.

hmmm · 22-04-2021 07:26PM

Russman wrote: »

If this was the case, I wonder would they hold off doing the 50s until the J&J arrives in country, or plow on through them with the mRNA shots ? And potentially have a good portion of them done before the big deliveries of J&J arrive.

It'd be getting silly if the under 50s are done before the 50s to 70s. It'll be interesting to see if the rise in cases today represents a glitch or a trend.

I hope they don't adopt an unnecessary "out of an abundance of caution" approach to J&J if the risk is low. There seems to be no consideration of the costs of lockdown and how desperate people are for it to end. Dragging out the vaccination schedule for an extra few weeks, or worse months, is not cost-free.

22-04-2021 07:30PM

NIAC also met on three separate days less than two weeks ago before formulating its advice on the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

That came after the EMA said people needed to be informed of a very rare risk of an unusual type of blood clot.

The advice on that last occasion was not to administer the AstraZeneca vaccine to under-60s as there was a plentiful supply of alternative mRNA vaccines available.

This would be fine if there was a plentiful supply of alternative mRNA vaccines available, but there is not.

If the virus is serious enough to keep us in level 5 for months, we should be using these vaccines. If they don't think the trade off is worth it, open the country.

wadacrack · 22-04-2021 07:31PM

More evidence J&J is effective against variants and safe. South Africa to resume administering it.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1384975362203918337

stephenjmcd · 22-04-2021 07:32PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I saw it on breaking news - a comment from Eamonn Ryan.

Here too.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0422/1211323-covid-ireland/

That's a hypothetical situation he is referencing that if it were over 50s then there wouldn't be an issue.

They don't know what NIAC will recommend yet

PatrickDoherty · 22-04-2021 07:32PM

Leo made a very good point today on Newstalk, If there was only 1 vaccine available there would be no delay in getting it into every arm and the miniscule risks wouldn't be half talked about, victim of success the vaccines are.

Goldengirl · 22-04-2021 07:32PM

AdamD wrote: »

The societal effects of restricting these vaccines need to be considered. This is ****ing madness

To be fair they are not " restricting these vaccines " any more than many other countries .

is_that_so · 22-04-2021 07:32PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

If all goes well when could we see that in Ireland? End of the summer?

CureVac originally said June but now it might be May, It's not far away!

celt262 · 22-04-2021 07:32PM

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

George Lee says there's about 600k people between the ages of 50-60 and 600k J&J vaccines. Might work out grand so.

Would be a great way to get a full group catered quickly.

iamwhoiam · 22-04-2021 07:33PM

Altough I am thrilled to be vaccinated and am not at all whinging but a teeny tiny bit miffed ! The 60-70 group will wait 12 weeks to be fully vaccinated and whoever gets J and J just a few weeks
Cant be helped and glad to have got any vaccine .

is_that_so · 22-04-2021 07:34PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

That's a hypothetical situation he is referencing that if it were over 50s then there wouldn't be an issue.

They don't know what NIAC will recommend yet

Yeah it's just a throwaway but restrictions would scupper the minorities/homeless proposal for J&J.

Goldengirl · 22-04-2021 07:35PM

PatrickDoherty wrote: »

Leo made a very good point today on Newstalk, If there was only 1 vaccine available there would be no delay in getting it into every arm and the miniscule risks wouldn't be half talked about, victim of success the vaccines are.

And one or two severe effects and your only vaccine would be snookered ?

We are undoubtedly in a better situation with so many good vaccines .

stephenjmcd · 22-04-2021 07:37PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Looks like the government are expecting an age 50 restriction for J&J.

I think you're misreading the comment that was made

Strazdas · 22-04-2021 07:39PM

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

George Lee says there's about 600k people between the ages of 50-60 and 600k J&J vaccines. Might work out grand so.

I'd say a fair few over 50s will receive Pfizer and Moderna as well if J & J is available (as the aim is to vaccinate 80% of the entire adult population, right down to late teenagers, in the next 10 weeks).

is_that_so · 22-04-2021 07:50PM

Fake Pfizer vaccines!

US pharmaceutical company Pfizer says it has identified counterfeit versions of its coronavirus vaccine in Mexico and Poland.

The doses were seized by authorities in the two countries and confirmed by tests to be fake.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-56844149

22-04-2021 08:17PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Fake Pfizer vaccines!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-56844149

If ever there was an appropriate story to turn off the swear filter for. What complete c.unts

TomOnBoard · 22-04-2021 08:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If ever there was an appropriate story to turn off the swear filter for. What complete c.unts

I thought the exact same thing!

Hopefully, there is a Hell, and the monsters who tried to make money out of peoples' lives in such a scheme will reside in the special, volcanic heat of it for all eternity!

Sadly, there probably isn't and these knuts will drive their Ferraris and smoke their Havanas while ppl who thought they had protection drop like flies! :mad:

JPup · 22-04-2021 08:26PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Altough I am thrilled to be vaccinated and am not at all whinging but a teeny tiny bit miffed ! The 60-70 group will wait 12 weeks to be fully vaccinated and whoever gets J and J just a few weeks
Cant be helped and glad to have got any vaccine .

One dose of J&J gives similar protection to one dose of AZ so you are no worse off medically speaking and will be better off most likely once you have the second dose.

Strazdas · 22-04-2021 08:32PM

JPup wrote: »

One dose of J&J gives similar protection to one dose of AZ so you are no worse off medically speaking and will be better off most likely once you have the second dose.

It's very possible J & J recipients will get a second dose of something else a bit later anyway.

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