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Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Chong wrote: »
    I have to say I got my vaccine today as I am in a high risk category, the sense of joy today is something else. I got the first dose of Moderna, back in 28 days hopefully, but I am beyond happy today to have got it.

    Just needed to express my joy somewhere.

    Great news . Delighted for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    amandstu wrote: »
    I got a text message at 10 this morning to be at the appointment at 11.

    It would have taken me over an hour to get in if I had jumped into the car on the spot.

    Am I now at the back of the queue?

    Who do I contact now since this was done online-to hopefully get another appointment (and hopefully with more than an hour's notice)

    Was it the online portal for 65-69 ?
    My text said they would text me 3-7 days in advance .


    HSE helpline
    1850 24 1850


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Taoiseach- He also clarified that the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) will meet tomorrow to consider the latest advice from the European Medicines Agency.

    Why didn't NIAC meet last night. Why wait 48 hours later. Other countries in EU already have and made a decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Taoiseach- He also clarified that the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) will meet tomorrow to consider the latest advice from the European Medicines Agency.

    Why didn't NIAC meet last night. Why wait 48 hours later. Other countries in EU already have and made a decision.
    I was thinking the same, lack of urgency is galling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,266 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Chong wrote: »
    I have to say I got my vaccine today as I am in a high risk category, the sense of joy today is something else. I got the first dose of Moderna, back in 28 days hopefully, but I am beyond happy today to have got it.

    Just needed to express my joy somewhere.

    Congratulations, I think you're the first person I've heard of to get moderna. How do you feel today?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Taoiseach- He also clarified that the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) will meet tomorrow to consider the latest advice from the European Medicines Agency.

    Why didn't NIAC meet last night. Why wait 48 hours later. Other countries in EU already have and made a decision.
    Likely requested more info from the EMA. Can't meet if they don't have all the details they want/require.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Taoiseach- He also clarified that the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) will meet tomorrow to consider the latest advice from the European Medicines Agency.

    Why didn't NIAC meet last night. Why wait 48 hours later. Other countries in EU already have and made a decision.
    It's possible the members are reading the documents themselves and tomorrow, when meeting, will be in a position to have an informed discussion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭amandstu


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Was it the online portal for 65-69 ?
    My text said they would text me 3-7 days in advance .


    HSE helpline
    1850 24 1850
    Yes it was .Thanks for the number:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Taoiseach- He also clarified that the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) will meet tomorrow to consider the latest advice from the European Medicines Agency.

    Why didn't NIAC meet last night. Why wait 48 hours later. Other countries in EU already have and made a decision.

    Ms Butler clearly pointed out yesterday that they are expecting more data on age profiles to be provided this week to inform their decision. So I suppose they could have made a less informed decision based on what data they had last night, which no doubt would have veared well into the realm of conservative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    astrofool wrote: »
    For someone who is bad at evaluating risk and being vaccine hesitant, the car analogy is bad, they think they can control that risk by not using cars or driving carefully (they can't, but anyway). It's really better off being put in the form of the risk from COVID vs. the risk of something happening which we now have a treatment for and is very low risk anyway.

    It also doesn't help when people blindly say blood clots as it's a very specific illness that can happen that is completely unrelated to most blood clot illnesses that occur, but now people are conflating the two and working themselves into a tizzy.

    I completely agree, but the risks v Covid have been repeatedly stated and yet there is vaccine hesitancy, hence the other analogy!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,411 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Tánaiste tells Virgin Media News a decision could be made on Johnson & Johnson by NIAC as soon as tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    amandstu wrote: »
    Yes it was .Thanks for the number:)

    Double check the text that its not next Wednesday ? Unusual to get such short notice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Fair enough ,valid points. Its just when they are holding back on making a decision about spacing out vaccines until this part is concluded I wish it could happen faster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Chong wrote: »
    I have to say I got my vaccine today as I am in a high risk category, the sense of joy today is something else. I got the first dose of Moderna, back in 28 days hopefully, but I am beyond happy today to have got it.

    Just needed to express my joy somewhere.

    OH and I felt the exact same on Saturday, having been given 10 minutes to get into the GP surgery to get Pfizered with shots that became available at short notice. I'm still buzzing 4-5 days later! And that's despite getting a very large initial response that wasted me! Its one of the most positive things in our house since our grand-child was born in 2019!

    So, enjoy the good feeling and look forward to a better 2021! :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    That is very interesting, can I ask what we are at with vaccines per 100 people at the moment? Does anyone know?

    Just under 25. Looking at the countries between 30 and 100, it seems a downward pressure on case numbers starts at about 30 per 100 if you have a high number of cases, like over 500 per million per day. If a country has low case numbers, like Ireland, we likely won't see pressure on case numbers until we get to about 80 per 100, possibly 100 per 100.

    This is the key in the Chile misunderstanding, their case numbers were comparatively low when they started mass vaccination. While they have seen an increase in cases, their overall numbers are still well below 500 per million and are only at 70 vaccines per 100. Bahrain is the only real outlier I can see so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    OH and I felt the exact same on Saturday, having been given 10 minutes to get into the GP surgery to get Pfizered with shots that became available at short notice. I'm still buzzing 4-5 days later! And that's despite getting a very large initial response that wasted me! Its one of the most positive things in our house since our grand-child was born in 2019!

    So, enjoy the good feeling and look forward to a better 2021! :D:D:D

    Great stuff, be there in 10 minutes for your covid shot is my wet dream at the moment! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭Chong


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    OH and I felt the exact same on Saturday, having been given 10 minutes to get into the GP surgery to get Pfizered with shots that became available at short notice. I'm still buzzing 4-5 days later! And that's despite getting a very large initial response that wasted me! Its one of the most positive things in our house since our grand-child was born in 2019!

    So, enjoy the good feeling and look forward to a better 2021! :D:D:D

    It is the happiest I have been in months, the thought soon enough I can see my parents who are 3 weeks themselves from being fully vaccinated make so happy!
    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Congratulations, I think you're the first person I've heard of to get moderna. How do you feel today?

    Thank you! so far so good, I had it done at 11.30am so hopefully the day works out ok and the next few days I guess. The nurses said the main response can come post the second shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭amandstu


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Double check the text that its not next Wednesday ? Unusual to get such short notice

    No ,it was the 21st.I rang 1850241850 and they said that they will send me out a new appointment with 2 to 3 days notice:)


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Fair enough ,valid points. Its just when they are holding back on making a decision about spacing out vaccines until this part is concluded I wish it could happen faster.
    Bigger countries probably have more staff to analyse the same amount of data too. As much as I want to see the decision made, a day or so won't make much of a difference. If they're very conservative, I wonder what their reasoning will be versus other countries that approved it (beyond "an abundance of caution").


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,600 ✭✭✭crossman47


    Chong wrote: »
    The nurses said the main response can come post the second shot.

    That appears to be the case. My OH felt rotten for a day or two after the second Moderna shot, especially feeling very cold.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭Chong


    crossman47 wrote: »
    That appears to be the case. My OH felt rotten for a day or two after the second Moderna shot, especially feeling very cold.

    The good thing is once you know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I completely agree, but the risks v Covid have been repeatedly stated and yet there is vaccine hesitancy, hence the other analogy!

    It's just an analogy I've learned to stay away from, one thing that causes hesitancy is lack of control over something, so a car is something that can be controlled so the mind thinks the risk is less, a vaccine is something the person can't control (other than not having it) so the risk seems more. It's why it's better to compare it to things they don't have control over (contracting SARS-COV2 from an asymptomatic super spreader, risk of getting clots if they do nothing at all, as examples).

    People jump through all kinds of hoops in their mind to justify their decisions, the key is to recognise that and argue from their point of view rather than yours (e.g no GMO person is probably inadvertently using GMO produced items anyway they just don't know it, person who wears goggles is forgetting about the soft membrane in their ears or picking up diseases on their clothes and bringing it home, either way they can't entirely eliminate risks no matter how much control they think they have).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    My early optimism in the vaccine roll out is definitely starting to wane. Even taking out the AZ shortfall announcement we have close to 350k vaccines currently in fridges according to the Belgian delivery numbers. We are also due a big delivery of Pfizer early this week. Yes some are required for second doses such as Moderna but we are now clearly in a position where we are not administering supply in the week that we get it or anywhere close. It looks like we will substantially miss our April target and It would be great if some journalists could ask the relevant questions as to why.
    We are well down on the projected 860,000 for the current month and are vaccinating at only slightly greater rates than the month of March, when the slow pace of vaccinations was also being highlighted.

    It is important also to remember also the 860,000 for April is in itself a reduction from a previous projection made earlier in the month and even as a projected number does not sadly match the current pace of countries like the US or UK.

    WTY.svg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I'm sick of hearing others getting vaccination apart from me, when the hell are the cohort 7 people going to be contacted, if I keep hearing the excuse that they are still vaccinating the over 60s and 70s, why don't they just bloody get on with it and get this roll out moving.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I'm sick of hearing others getting vaccination apart from me, when the hell are the cohort 7 people going to be contacted, if I keep hearing the excuse that they are still vaccinating the over 60s and 70s, why don't they just bloody get on with it and get this roll out moving.
    Spoke to my doctor yesterday RE group 7 and he said he doesn't expect the majority of those in the group to be done for quite some time, more in line with the general population than prioritised


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I'm sick of hearing others getting vaccination apart from me, when the hell are the cohort 7 people going to be contacted, if I keep hearing the excuse that they are still vaccinating the over 60s and 70s, why don't they just bloody get on with it and get this roll out moving.
    I know of some Group 4s being done at present, notified out of the blue so to speak. That's how it seems to be and the supply lottery really doesn't help any of that at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I'm sick of hearing others getting vaccination apart from me, when the hell are the cohort 7 people going to be contacted, if I keep hearing the excuse that they are still vaccinating the over 60s and 70s, why don't they just bloody get on with it and get this roll out moving.

    Because there physically isn't enough vaccine available to do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    I think this needs clarifying as I've seen it posted here and posted on twitter etc

    860k doses in April is NOT 860k administered, its 860k delivered into the country. This will change again as AZ backloaded delviery is pushed to 3rd May of 100k +.

    There seems to be some confusion when the 860k number is thrown about. Maybe it's not communicated effectively but it's a point to be aware of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭Russman


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I know of some Group 4s being done at present, notified out of the blue so to speak. That's how it seems to be and the supply lottery really doesn't help any of that at all.

    Yep, a work colleague who would be either group 4 or 7, I'm not sure if he's high or very high risk, got a call Monday evening to go to his GP within something like 30mins or an hour for a Pfizer jab. He's 58.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭SJFly


    We are well down on the projected 860,000 for the current month and are vaccinating at only slightly greater rates than the month of March, when the slow pace of vaccinations was also being highlighted.

    It is important also to remember also the 860,000 for April is in itself a reduction from a previous projection made earlier in the month and even as a projected number does not sadly match the current pace of countries like the US or UK.

    WTY.svg

    I think it's really important we monitor performance, and shout loudly if we are seen to be falling behind. However, we have just done the biggest reorganisation of the rollout, changing who gets what vaccine and where. The MVCs handling a large percentage of the vaccines only started up again yesterday. I'm really hoping to see a huge improvement in the coming days, so still giving the benefit of the doubt. If the stockpiles of vaccines keep on building up, I'll lose faith pretty quickly.


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