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14k doses on Monday

snotboogie wrote: »

Yikes... That's poor

Don’t forget that the MVCs didn’t start the over-60s until Tuesday. Monday was mostly only GP clinics for over-70s and cohort 4. Should be a big jump in numbers for Tuesday.

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Heck, I'm never getting another shower in case I slip getting out.

PhilOssophy wrote: »

I'm never leaving the house again.

Thank you, glad you're keeping your smelly self at home!

PhilOssophy wrote: »

The whole vaccine hesitancy thing is such utter BS to me.
You are statistically more likely to be killed on the way to the vaccination centre, than you are by the vaccine. Did any of those hesitant above think "I shouldn't go, I might be in a car crash or be knocked down by a car"?
Re the blood clot above, a throw away comment by a nurse of "another one after the vaccine" is extremely unprofessional. How many did she have in the Covid ward only a month or two ago?
Also, as people presumably get blood clots all the time, and DVT is not a factor which has been detected post-AZ vaccine, it is extremely lazy to be linking the 2 and creating panic in people - surely this nurse knew this?

For someone who is bad at evaluating risk and being vaccine hesitant, the car analogy is bad, they think they can control that risk by not using cars or driving carefully (they can't, but anyway). It's really better off being put in the form of the risk from COVID vs. the risk of something happening which we now have a treatment for and is very low risk anyway.

It also doesn't help when people blindly say blood clots as it's a very specific illness that can happen that is completely unrelated to most blood clot illnesses that occur, but now people are conflating the two and working themselves into a tizzy.

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Any registered medical professional should be declared qualified for the job, anything else is a waste of time.

When the HSE get agency nurses do they ask them for their leaving cert every time or is their registration enough?

The leaving cert requirement is a public service thing so any agency nurse would probably have to produce it (I'm guessing depending on the structure of the employment). And yes it is stupid, but so are lots of things in the public service which they insist on keeping in place. HCL, a private recruiting company, would be unable to change that requirement and it's probably frustrating for them that they have to ask clearly qualified individuals for results from exams that don't matter a jot.

And if you ever want to work in the public service, keep your LC results on file, or have them scanned in somewhere

pc7 wrote: »

Really hope they just lash it out, give people the choice, I'd happily sign a waiver.

Yes, though giving J & J to the over 60s could potentially speed up Pfizer and Moderna going to the under 60s, so even an age limit wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world.

crossman47 wrote: »

That doc doesn't appear to be as clued in as he should be. Many posters above made the point DVT is not the issue with AZ at all.

There's a number of issues that come to mind here:

1. The biggest one is obviously that the poor woman got a DVT at all. However, its great that she got the necessary care and is now out of hospital.
2. That the nurse made such a throwaway remark to, or in the hearing of, a lady who must have been in bits at the time. The last thing the lady needed was idle conjecture. If the nurse had suspicions, she should have raised them with the medical team, rather than frightening the patient who had enough on her plate.
3. I simply cannot fathom how the hospital's protocols did not include a test for Covid infection at some point following the immediate treatment, given the huge potential for DVT from Covid in the first place.
4. If the Dr this morning has a genuine belief that it is'AZ suspicious', s/he should be following up with the appropriate ppl. I hope s/he has done something to alert the authorities appropriately of these suspicions, and not just saying it to the lady. What is the lady supposed to do EXCEPT now worry about something else and potentially become only partially protected.

Leaving aside the particular lady herself, the whole picture doesn't show an elegance and joined-up response, with apparent idle speculation on the part of the health care professionals apparently not backed up by diagnostic action, UNLESS the DVT was not un-expected by them for some reason.

snotboogie wrote: »

Why do we have more logistics to sort than any other EU country?

We don't, but probably more than the average EU country due to the 60+ limitation on AstraZeneca, and as we're at the EU average, the rollout of vaccines would be classed as going quite well given the supplies available. We consistently get 95% of supply into arms within a week, when that stops, then we can have a tantrum about it.

When NIAC makes their decision, then the logistics involved in J&J will kick in and hopefully be sorted quickly but we will have 40,000 "unused" supply hanging around until then.

Valhallapt wrote: »

Am I miss reading this? We have 500k vaccines in storage?

EU vaccine tracker says doses distributed but not administered:

Comirnaty (Pfizer): 94,422
Janssen (J&J): 14,400
Moderna: 90,827
Vaxzevria (AZ): 144,779
Total: 344,428

That's based on total doses administered of 1,214,882.

Source: https://qap.ecdc.europa.eu/public/extensions/COVID-19/vaccine-tracker.html#distribution-tab

snotboogie wrote: »

Couple of interesting milestones internationally. Israel will probably reach 120 vaccines per 100 people tomorrow. UAE will get to 100 per 100 probably the day after. It will be interesting to see if Israel can continue to drive down their case number, they are currently at 17 per million per day average. The low covid threshold in countries like Singapore and Korea was under 10 per million per day. It'll be interesting to see if Israel get there soon. 100 vaccines per 100 was where Israel saw the real fall off in case numbers, they went from 450 cases per million per day to 145 cases per million in just two weeks. The UAE currently has 190 cases per day, will we see a sudden drop off??

That is very interesting, can I ask what we are at with vaccines per 100 people at the moment? Does anyone know?

I have to say I got my vaccine today as I am in a high risk category, the sense of joy today is something else. I got the first dose of Moderna, back in 28 days hopefully, but I am beyond happy today to have got it.

Just needed to express my joy somewhere.

I got a text message at 10 this morning to be at the appointment at 11.

It would have taken me over an hour to get in if I had jumped into the car on the spot.

Am I now at the back of the queue?

Who do I contact now since this was done online-to hopefully get another appointment (and hopefully with more than an hour's notice)