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Derek Chauvin murder trial (George Floyd)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    I bet they still burn the city
    Spare a thought for Antifa tonight. What are they going to do with all those petrol bombs now??

    Mod

    Stay on topic or stay out of the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭francois


    Let's be honest he'll be put in protective custody and that'll be that, he won't be in gen pop

    Or he can hang with the racist proud boys for the next 40 years or so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    What a totally avoidable situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭Smegging hell


    Great news, murdering scumbag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,749 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Surprised to see guilty verdict delivered on all three counts. I thought he'd dodge the M2.

    But it was almost a sure fire hit for the other two counts. The defence was desperate at times (as were some of the posters on here) looking for anything at all to excuse what Chauvin did. But compared to what the prosecution brought, the excuses just didn't wash.

    No doubt there'll be an appeal. So it'll be interesting to see where that goes.

    On thing is for sure however. America needs to get it's shit together regarding law enforcement. It's no doubt, an extremely tough job that has to deal with some crazy people and situations. But there are too many Judge Dredd's knocking around over there who think that they can just do anything they like.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Hedgehod55


    Very unsurprising that the same posters who defend Chauvin's actions are now making snide comments about rioting, looting, etc. I thought they were analysing the events and trial logically, and not being swayed by their political leanings?

    Oh dear, it appears they couldn't help themselves. Not that anyone was falling for their thinly veiled "arguments" anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭francois


    He said I cant breath dozens of times when no one touched him. It referred to being put in the police car. There is video evidence that that he has knee on his shoulder, not neck. Murder is the deliberate killing of someone. The best you can say is that he disregarded his safety. To claim it is a deliberate killing is irrational.

    Unless you sat through the evidence and jury deliberation your point is moot


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Nobody held up chauvin as a hero, he deserved manslaughter but this verdict is insane

    You clearly didn't follow what the Judge's charge to the jury was to find guilty of second degree.

    Look, it's hard for you to accept that a white police officer murdered an unarmed black man because you put every single egg in the basket that it wasn't what it looked like.

    It was. George Floyd was murdered. Plain and simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Ckendrick wrote: »
    Well the mayor of Portland has just announced a state of emergency and requested help from elsewhere. I hope you don’t think that ANTIFA or BLM give a tuppeney f**k about George Floyd or his family or any of the other dead black people or their families.
    They are nobodies in all this.

    By "just" do you mean before the verdict was delivered? Cos thats what happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Munstergirl854


    Anybody watching the tonight show on virgin media?

    What's with the money?just switched on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    francois wrote: »
    Unless you sat through the evidence and jury deliberation your point is moot

    You can look at both arguments online. RTE ony reported on the prosecution. They completely ignored the defence


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    Hedgehod55 wrote: »
    Very unsurprising that the same posters who defend Chauvin's actions are now making snide comments about rioting, looting, etc. I thought they were analysing the events and trial logically, and not being swayed by their political leanings?

    Oh dear, it appears they couldn't help themselves. Not that anyone was falling for their thinly veiled "arguments" anyway.

    I was hoping for guilty on all counts.
    I’m just realistic that based on what the judge said, and further political interference from the highest level today, that there will have to be another trial.
    The burning looting rioting and violence should stop now too, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,864 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Ckendrick wrote: »
    I was hoping for guilty on all counts.
    I’m just realistic that based on what the judge said, and further political interference from the highest level today, that there will have to be another trial.
    The burning looting rioting and violence should stop now too, right?
    What part of Biden commenting about a case with a sequestered jury is 'political interference'???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    A Minnesota jury found Derek Chauvin guilty on all three charges of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in the May 2020 killing of George Floyd. Jurors announced their final verdict after approximately 10 hours of deliberation. Sentencing will take place in eight weeks and Chauvin will be held without bail until that time.

    Justice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,971 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Murder is the deliberate killing of someone.
    Not 2nd degree unintentional murder or 3rd degree murder.


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can look at both arguments online. RTE ony reported on the prosecution. They completely ignored the defence

    There's nothing to prevent Irish people from reading up on the case further or even watching the entirety of the trial. The reality is the jury hearing both sides is the most important thing. They did...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    CNN’s coverage needs more Donnie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭cheezums


    a good night for america. chauvin is a scumbag and he deserves repercussions, for this and let's be honest probably numerous other scumbag acts he did while in a position of authority.

    looking purely objectively at the trial itself, the highest charge was a massive stretch and for sure i feel like jurors felt terrified to acquit on any charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Id say there will be a retrial, no doubt.

    That congresswoman basically said find him guilty or we'll riot...lunacy.

    Didn't the judge more or less acknowledge it to the defense?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,742 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    BOOM

    Hope he rots in jail


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Faugheen wrote: »
    You clearly didn't follow what the Judge's charge to the jury was to find guilty of second degree.

    Look, it's hard for you to accept that a white police officer murdered an unarmed black man because you put every single egg in the basket that it wasn't what it looked like.

    It was. George Floyd was murdered. Plain and simple.

    I have an issue that the judge refused that Floyd's dealer who was in the car was not required to give evidence (presumably to protect the prosecution). I have a problem with that fact that is documentary evidence that the knee was his shoulder. I am guessing you didn't see the full length tape?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    By "just" do you mean before the verdict was delivered? Cos thats what happened.

    If he thought that the rioting burning looting and violence was going to stop when the verdict, which was without doubt, was announced, then why did he not wait?
    He didn’t because he knows the violence has nothing to do with the Chauvin trial. Or any other racial injustice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,749 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    You can look at both arguments online. RTE ony reported on the prosecution. They completely ignored the defence

    That's bullshit.

    Even tonight they reported what the defence tried to put forth.


  • Posts: 939 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    osarusan wrote: »
    Not 2nd degree unintentional murder or 3rd degree murder.

    Or even murder in Irish law, that's intent to kill or cause serious harm.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    What part of Biden commenting about a case with a sequestered jury is 'political interference'???

    Dissent, deny, deflect, distract.

    People know that Biden did nothing wrong. It's a tactic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    cheezums wrote: »
    a good night for america. chauvin is a scumbag and he deserves repercussions, for this and let's be honest probably numerous other scumbag acts he did while in a position of authority.

    looking purely objectively at the trial itself, the highest charge was a massive stretch and for sure i feel like jurors felt terrified to acquit on any charge.

    Yes. The rioting and burning and looting will stop now and all the cities will return to peaceful crime free places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Vestiapx


    How can he be guilty on all counts, I would have thought once he is guilty on murder 2 that he wouldn't fit manslaughter.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I have an issue that the judge refused that Floyd's dealer who was in the car was not required to give evidence (presumably to protect the prosecution). I have a problem with that fact that is documentary evidence that the knee was his shoulder. I am guessing you didn't see the full length tape?

    I did. I also followed the entire trial, including the two days of the defence putting forward their non-existent case.

    Murderer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Bad Boyo wrote: »
    The jury were probably too frightened to find him not guilty.

    Why on earth given the weight of evidence could they find him not guilty. Do give us your analysis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Tony EH wrote: »
    That's bullshit.

    Even tonight they reported what the defence tried to put forth.

    Nope. I watched the whole thing this evening and daily before. They only occasionally reported tibits in so far prosecution arguments countered them


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