Derek Chauvin murder trial (George Floyd)

Overheal wrote: »

Oh.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-george-floyd-death-video/

Well, they do. All the time. The sudden wokeness from the least woke people about it seems hollow though.

The jury are currently deliberating while Biden is ringing up his family.

Overheal wrote: »

And?

When Trump commented on it, on national prime time television (most watched show in news incidentally and tragically) there hadn’t even been a grand jury empaneled; he had tainted the entire county pool of jurors.

Biden affected no juror in this case by this means.

Lefty news are even calling out Biden's comments, even CNN :eek:

Real Donald Trump wrote: »

Lefty news are even calling out Biden's comments, even CNN :eek:

I’m not the lefty news and neither are you? I have no television cable hooked up. I was having a conversation with you not Andy Cooper or Wolf Blitzer. Argumentum ad populum.. none of which really addresses or counter arguments one damn thing I actually said, lol.

I’d say given the quick verdict will be either guilty on all or not guilty on all

cheezums wrote: »

verdict reached. to be announced 16.00 ish minnesaota time.

That 11 here right?

ACitizenErased wrote: »

10

Ah good. I struggle to stay up beyond 10

Deleted User wrote: »

Correct-but he’s also setting high expectations of the jury and their decision in a greatly inflamed and divided nation- as president, by saying the evidence is “overwhelming” is another way of saying, “if this guy doesn’t get 2nd degree murder the riots that will follow will be somewhat justified and understandable”- that’s essentially the sub-text of what he’s saying as a politician and how it will be received by his followers.

He should keep his damn mouth shut right now as there are very simple minded people out there, as we’ve seen in Trump-land, who hang on the every word of their president and will do lots of nasty things thinking they have the backing of their man in the Whitehouse.

He took very unorthodox approach here. To be fair, I've seen it the other way before too, where the president/governor etc etc will come out ahead of the verdict and make no indication of bias, but will urge calm etc. and you'd think 'yeah nothing wrong with that' but even that can still be interpreted to people who are going to riot regardless, as a reason to riot, because they think that means a fix is in etc.

In this case nothing in the act prejudiced the case, and, if he's found not guilty, in light of Bidens unorthodox action people will be referring back to him tonight to see what he says next, now, knowing that he was 'on their side' so to speak, or at least thinking he was.

Nothing justifies violence and criminal actions if they occur

I reckon it'll either be third degree or manslaughter. He'll be looking at between 5 and 12 years in prison based on Minnesota sentencing.

Deleted User wrote: »

I can’t see a murder 2 verdict- what do others think?

I’ve changed my mind on murder 3- I think it’s a definite possibility having read up more on the definition as opposed to manslaughter- I think manslaughter is a verdict designed for a much more straightforward accident coupled with some negligence - this was more than that IMHO- but I still don’t believe the prosecution proved murder 2 beyond reasonable doubt

Agree with all this