Random EV thoughts.....

RandomViewer · 17-04-2021 11:45PM

hold my beer wrote: »

EV tech? Have you got your head buried in the sand or something. Look around, their everywhere.

Upcoming recession will send it the way of the Betamax, ESB is a pension fund ,won't be able to charge them if we reach 15-20% of carpool, hybrids are everywhere not EVs

slave1 · 18-04-2021 07:38AM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Bulbs, shocks, wheel bearings, bushings, pollen filter,steering parts, you are saving on a few litres of oil and fuel and oil filters but little else, you'll also have standard battery and ancillaries, AC,PAS, add in extra tyre wear and actual ownership costs will be very similar to ICE,

Where are you getting this from? With over 4 years of Leaf ownership and 69,000kms still on (3.5mm due to be changed soon) original rear tyres.
I changed pollen filter myself twice.
That’s it.
Annual main dealer service less than €80.

How does that real world example compare to being similar to ICE.

the_amazing_raisin · 18-04-2021 09:22AM

slave1 wrote: »

Where are you getting this from? With over 4 years of Leaf ownership and 69,000kms still on (3.5mm due to be changed soon) original rear tyres.
I changed pollen filter myself twice.
That’s it.
Annual main dealer service less than €80.

How does that real world example compare to being similar to ICE.

Don't feed the trolls

AndyBoBandy · 18-04-2021 09:30AM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Don't feed the trolls

My guess is that ‘someone’ got absolutely rinsed at a set of lights by a Leaf or an ID.3 or something, and has come to dismiss EV’s as simply being a fad, that will be over soon enough.....

DrPhilG · 18-04-2021 11:34AM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

My guess is that ‘someone’ got absolutely rinsed at a set of lights by a Leaf or an ID.3

Nah, with that level of hate it must have been a Zoe that toasted him off the line.

slave1 · 18-04-2021 11:51AM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Don't feed the trolls

Oh, I 100% know the trolling that was going on, however don't want others to see these posts and think they are correct, no harm in real real world experience.
I forgot I just replaced the rear wiper too, fek, could be a tipping point for some

Silent Running · 18-04-2021 12:00PM

There should be a standard questionnaire for trolls when they use the price argument...

Where can I get a new diesel or petrol car that has:

204bhp with instant torque

the ability to refuel at home while I sleep for a low cost, or free when the sun shines during the day

a cost of around €0.01 per kilometre to drive

semi autonomous driving

matrix LED headlights

automatic transmission

adaptive cruise control

seat and steering heating

electric seats with massage function

HUD with augmented reality

keyless entry and start

€120 annual road tax

cheap toll road use

low service cost

***

... all for under €41k? (cost of my current 211 car)

That's all before we get into the silky smooth, vibration and noise free drive.

*** loads of little things left out, like wireless phone charging etc.

I asked a similar question of the "diesel 'till I die" trolls before and it all went very quiet.

hold my beer · 18-04-2021 12:07PM

What EV have you got that has the HUD? Really wanted that but it wasn't worth the extra going up to the ID4 max for me.

Silent Running · 18-04-2021 12:09PM

hold my beer wrote: »

What EV have you got that has the HUD? Really wanted that but it wasn't worth the extra going up to the ID4 max for me.

ID.3 Tour. I think it's available on the Tech and Max models too.

18-04-2021 01:34PM

The issues with TeslaBjørn's Millenium Falcon frighten me. It is no exaggeration to say I'd prefer an Opel Insignia of similar vintage and they are famous for their unreliability. Zöe or Leaf of similar age don't frighten me half as much. I don't expect a Model 3 SR to give anywhere near the same trouble when they push on in years.

slave1 · 18-04-2021 01:41PM

Huh? That's an exception mileage very early Model S, what issues has he had since he got it back?
Given it's mileage it's doing very well, don't forget he is not paying a cent for any repair or cosmetic work so he is going full whack on anything elective. As he has said himself, he would not be paying for lots of the recent work done, he's being extreme about it.
350,000kms!!!

18-04-2021 01:44PM

His Artic circle trip this weekend didn't go well between drivetrain issues and suspension issues.

slave1 · 18-04-2021 02:00PM

I don't watch his Live Vids, I'll wait and see the edited version on the main channel.
Very interested in these videos as it's older than mine so good to see how it holds up.

the_amazing_raisin · 18-04-2021 05:48PM

slave1 wrote: »

I don't watch his Live Vids, I'll wait and see the edited version on the main channel.
Very interested in these videos as it's older than mine so good to see how it holds up.

To be fair, Bjorn's Model S is probably a bit of an edge case, not just having high mileage but also being subjected to Norwegian road conditions. Lots of lovely snow, ice and grit to wreck the car in winter

18-04-2021 05:51PM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

To be fair, Bjorn's Model S is probably a bit of an edge case, not just having high mileage but also being subjected to Norwegian road conditions. Lots of lovely snow, ice and grit to wreck the car in winter

If I wanted a Tesla I'd somehow find the money to buy a new lower spec one than an older one.

18-04-2021 05:54PM

Random thought: search function finds no reference to EQA in this sub-forum.
I was charging beside one yesterday; nice but a bit bland.
It was getting 97KW charging speed while I was getting 82kw.
Maybe the battery pack was warmer but the charging curve on them looks very good.

TitianGerm · 18-04-2021 05:57PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgfsxPUzQoM

Bob Flavins update on the MG. I'd guess he hasn't done much research on charging curves because he seems to think he should be getting high charge speed even though he's starting a charge at over 50% battery capacity.

Am I right in thinking he's wrong here?

the_amazing_raisin · 18-04-2021 07:23PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgfsxPUzQoM

Bob Flavins update on the MG. I'd guess he hasn't done much research on charging curves because he seems to think he should be getting high charge speed even though he's starting a charge at over 50% battery capacity.

Am I right in thinking he's wrong here?

I seem to remember the ZS needed a software update to unlock the full charging speed, not sure what the issue was exactly. I think Bob did say something about this in the previous episode

But yes, I think some EVs will throttle their charging quite a bit if the starting SoC is high. For example, I think the ID.4 can normally handle 100+kW at 30%, but you you plug it in with 30% SoC you'll get under 100kW

I assume it's mostly just manufacturers being super conservative with the charging curve until they get an idea of battery degredation. Hopefully they'll up the speed with a software update later

slave1 · 18-04-2021 08:09PM

Unless it’s an eTron or Tycan any EV will “punish” charging speeds at high SOC, public charging is to get you home not to charge to full

the_amazing_raisin · 18-04-2021 08:16PM

slave1 wrote: »

Unless it’s an eTron or Tycan any EV will “punish” charging speeds at high SOC, public charging is to get you home not to charge to full

Yeah I just wish car manufacturers would spell this out a bit more. For example they always quote the peak charging speed but tend to be more ambiguous around the average charging speed and what's the start/end conditions are

10% to 80% seems to be the norm but not everyone goes by this

Fastned are great the way they'll provide the charging curves for every car they test. I've also noticed Inside EVs have started doing tables with the starting and ending SoC and how long it'll take

It'd be nice if the cars would just display the projected charging curve on the infortainmemt screen. It's got all the information so it's really just down to automakers trying to keep the charging curve a secret

mfceiling · 18-04-2021 08:57PM

Went out for a walk this evening and I saw 5 model 3's, 2 model S, 2 ID3's, Golf E and a couple of various Hyundai models.

Is it because after buying electric you notice more electric?

forestgirl · 18-04-2021 10:28PM

I got a good look at the vw id4 the other day and it was the blue one id4 1st grey seats with brown leather arm rests etc,I thought it was basic enough for vw to be honest and a good size boot alright.
I was disappointed because I think they are very expensive I just think not enough public charging points at all,will it be another couple of years before that happens

0lddog · 18-04-2021 10:39PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Went out for a walk this evening and I saw 5 model 3's, 2 model S, 2 ID3's, Golf E and a couple of various Hyundai models.

Is it because after buying electric you notice more electric?

Nope

Lots of 'leccy cars in and around Dubland at this stage

And a Heap of them are Model 3s

Good year to be in Tesla sales

Fair few MS but generally not 20X or 21X reg

forestgirl · 18-04-2021 10:53PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Went out for a walk this evening and I saw 5 model 3's, 2 model S, 2 ID3's, Golf E and a couple of various Hyundai models.

Is it because after buying electric you notice more electric?

Yes I would imagine so

MJohnston · 18-04-2021 10:53PM

Saw an ID.4 taxi near Killiney on Friday there. Always a good sign when the taxis feel confident in using an EV.

0lddog · 18-04-2021 10:56PM

MJohnston wrote: »

Saw an ID.4 taxi near Killiney on Friday there. Always a good sign when the taxis feel confident in using an EV.

Whats the nett cost of one of those as a taxi ?

hold my beer · 18-04-2021 10:57PM

More than likely a sole trader so they'd get the grant as far as I know

0lddog · 18-04-2021 11:04PM

hold my beer wrote: »

More than likely a sole trader so they'd get the grant as far as I know

Special incentives for taxi use ? ? 10k ? +VRT relief ?

the_amazing_raisin · 18-04-2021 11:10PM

0lddog wrote: »

Nope

Lots of 'leccy cars in and around Dubland at this stage

And a Heap of them are Model 3s

Good year to be in Tesla sales

Fair few MS but generally not 20X or 21X reg

Yeah I'm starting to think those Tesla's are reproducing or something, I'm seeing them everywhere now

I do feel like I notice EVs more since buying a Leaf, ICE cars are boring now

hold my beer · 18-04-2021 11:22PM

0lddog wrote: »

Special incentives for taxi use ? ? 10k ? +VRT relief ?

Didn't realise there's a special grant for taxis

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