Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 08:09PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

RTE also said this was 50% of the age group.

Total was 180000 acc to Stephen Donnelly.

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 08:12PM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210416/Single-dose-of-Oxforde28093AstraZeneca-COVID-vaccine-shown-to-be-more-immunogenic-than-natural-infection.aspx

New research on AZ.

They are discussing extending dose times for mRNA vaccines I understood, not AZ as that has already been decided as 60 to 69 years?

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 08:14PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Absolutely agree

It's news, get over it.

Exact same news on BBC etc.

PhilOssophy · 18-04-2021 08:17PM

mmclo wrote: »

He's UUP though

Apologies, my bad! The rest of the post still stands though!

finalfurlong · 18-04-2021 08:22PM

Strazdas wrote: »

That ties in with the extra Pfizer deliveries - George Lee says they start that day.

George Lee would prefer if they got damaged in transit

Kivaro · 18-04-2021 08:29PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

It's news, get over it.

Exact same news on BBC etc.

It's RTE version of the news, which has an unfair bias to it. They deliberately skewed their reporting throughout this pandemic, and gave preference to doomsayers in order to put the fear of God in the people of Ireland. RTE certainly did injustice to the concept of National Broadcaster.

PhilOssophy · 18-04-2021 08:35PM

Kivaro wrote: »

It's RTE version of the news, which has an unfair bias to it. They deliberately skewed their reporting throughout this pandemic, and gave preference to doomsayers in order to put the fear of God in the people of Ireland. RTE certainly did injustice to the concept of National Broadcaster.

I think they gave reporting time to people based on science and educational credentials - the alternative was covid deniers, anti vaxxers and other general headcases.

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 08:40PM

Kivaro wrote: »

It's RTE version of the news, which has an unfair bias to it. They deliberately skewed their reporting throughout this pandemic, and gave preference to doomsayers in order to put the fear of God in the people of Ireland. RTE certainly did injustice to the concept of National Broadcaster.

Your opinion, not mine.
What would you call Luke O Neill then ?
He seems to have permanent residency in Donnybrook!
I found some good some bad as with other TV channels.
Same as always but some people attribute more influence to RTE somehow during Covid, even though they ' say' they never watch it!
Interesting, that

lbj666 · 18-04-2021 08:50PM

https://twitter.com/RachelLavin/status/1383741192085467141/photo/1

Can someone shed light on Ms. Lavins model.

Finding the scenarios a bit confusing are the independent of the other ones. Does each scenarios include for the scenario preceding it? (except of No.1 obviously) or are they total independant

Miike · 18-04-2021 09:01PM

lbj666 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RachelLavin/status/1383741192085467141/photo/1

Can someone shed light on Ms. Lavins model.

Finding the scenarios a bit confusing are the independent of the other ones. Does each scenarios include for the scenario preceding it? (except of No.1 obviously) or are they total independant

No they are independent from looking at the charts. The text gave me a migraine though

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 09:08PM

lbj666 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RachelLavin/status/1383741192085467141/photo/1

Can someone shed light on Ms. Lavins model.

Finding the scenarios a bit confusing are the independent of the other ones. Does each scenarios include for the scenario preceding it? (except of No.1 obviously) or are they total independant

Don't know if I am colour blind , are two of the lines green ?

Miike · 18-04-2021 09:10PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Don't know if I am colour blind , are two of the lines green ?

No one is teal (?) and one is green.

Although I have F.Lux on my PC/Phones/Laptop turned up to power ranger so everything is a tint of orange/yellow.

Jinglejangle69 · 18-04-2021 09:14PM

Anyone here know of anyone over 70 who still hasnt heard from their GP or got the vaccine?

Both my parents over 70 still haven't heard a thing.

Wondering if it's common?

ddarcy · 18-04-2021 09:19PM

Morby wrote: »

Just wondering if someone got their first dose of AstraZeneca but would prefer not to have AZ for their second dose, is it possible to mix and match and get Pfizer or Moderns for their second dose?

This is currently in clinical trials. France and Germany are going straight into it. Ireland says to keep both doses as Astra. We shall see, I think the van is going locked down the road to get more info.

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 09:20PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Anyone here know of anyone over 70 who still hasnt heard from their GP or got the vaccine?

Both my parents over 70 still haven't heard a thing.

Wondering if it's common?

Did you or they try to contact the GP about this ?
You asked the same question a few days ago .
Some GPs have long lists of over 70s so are still vaccinating .

Jinglejangle69 · 18-04-2021 09:24PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Did you or they try to contact the GP about this ?
You asked the same question a few days ago .
Some GPs have long lists of over 70s so are still vaccinating .

Yeah secretary said you will hear from us when it's your turn and hung up.

Sorry to ask again just can't get my head around 69 year olds getting it tommorow when there is still over 70s waiting.

I thought every age bracket had to be done before moving onto the next.

Ah sure what can I do. Just have to wait.

ACitizenErased · 18-04-2021 09:24PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

It's news, get over it.

Exact same news on BBC etc.

no? we pay a TV license, I expect unbiased journalism. get over that.

iamwhoiam · 18-04-2021 09:25PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Anyone here know of anyone over 70 who still hasnt heard from their GP or got the vaccine?

Both my parents over 70 still haven't heard a thing.

Wondering if it's common?

Have you made sure that the GP has a proper contact number for them ?

65-70 are being done parallel to over 70 as they get AZ and over 70 get Pfizer via the GP

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 09:29PM

Miike wrote: »

No one is teal (?) and one is green.

Although I have F.Lux on my PC/Phones/Laptop turned up to power ranger so everything is a tint of orange/yellow.

Is teal not green

Ohh my eyes !

Kivaro · 18-04-2021 09:36PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

no? we pay a TV license, I expect unbiased journalism. get over that.

It's kinda funny when those who tell us suck it up are the ones probably not paying the TV tax.

But on AZ skepticism, some interesting reading here:
"A single dose of the Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine was shown to be very immunogenic in previously naïve individuals and able to induce antibody levels that exceed those following a mild or asymptomatic natural infection."

And regarding the existing variants:
"Our results suggest a single dose of vaccine based on the original sequence may still induce a significant increase in antibodies cross-reactive with the variants of concern – perhaps sufficient to ameliorate disease".

This is why the first dose getting rolled out to as many as possible is so important ..... in my humble opinion.

ACitizenErased · 18-04-2021 09:37PM

Kivaro wrote: »

It's kinda funny when those who tell us suck it up are the ones probably not paying the TV tax.

But on AZ skepticism, some interesting reading here:
"A single dose of the Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine was shown to be very immunogenic in previously naïve individuals and able to induce antibody levels that exceed those following a mild or asymptomatic natural infection."

And regarding the existing variants:
"Our results suggest a single dose of vaccine based on the original sequence may still induce a significant increase in antibodies cross-reactive with the variants of concern – perhaps sufficient to ameliorate disease".

This is why the first dose getting rolled out to as many as possible is so important ..... in my humble opinion.

I'm a big believer in the AZ vaccine - have been following it closely on this thread since last Summer and believe it still has a major major role to play in the world's response to this.

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 09:39PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Have you made sure that the GP has a proper contact number for them ?

65-70 are being done parallel to over 70 as they get AZ and over 70 get Pfizer via the GP

This .
It is head wrecking, I know .
Especially if things moving along for the under 70s .
But they are better off getting their vaccine from someone who knows their back history .
The secretaries and practice nurses are overloaded as well because they are making calls and appointments which are being changed according to whatever NIAC say .
So now after doing some over 70s and making appointments for second doses they are waiting to hear whether NIAC will space the doses out as being discussed , and all those elderly people will have to be contacted again and new appointments made . And it wouldn't be as simple as text message or email for some of this group .
Not excusing it , but I do know that our own practice is waiting before they do any more until their dosing schedule is clarified, as my husband was contacting them as he is highrisk under 65 .

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 09:42PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

no? we pay a TV license, I expect unbiased journalism. get over that.

Mostly is unbiased .
Except for one or two .
I am not the one who needs to get over anything . Am happy out !

ACitizenErased · 18-04-2021 09:42PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Mostly is unbiased .
Except for one or two .
I am not the one who needs to get over anything . Am happy out !

Don't reply if I complain so

Goldengirl · 18-04-2021 09:44PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Yeah secretary said you will hear from us when it's your turn and hung up.

Sorry to ask again just can't get my head around 69 year olds getting it tommorow when there is still over 70s waiting.

I thought every age bracket had to be done before moving onto the next.

Ah sure what can I do. Just have to wait.

Post replying to iamwhoiam was meant for you as well .

vienne86 · 18-04-2021 09:51PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Anyone here know of anyone over 70 who still hasnt heard from their GP or got the vaccine?

Both my parents over 70 still haven't heard a thing.

Wondering if it's common?

Yes. A friend of mine is still waiting. Very frustrating for you and especially as 69 year olds will be getting done this week, but it would be stupid to make them wait. I think it can look as if nothing is happening re vaccines in GPs, but I think they only get deliveries every two weeks, and some have been let down. I think it'll take until the end of the month to finish first doses for the over 70s.

18-04-2021 10:03PM

Has anyone who got vaccinated considered doing a covid antibody test afterwards?

Double edged sword, if it was positive it could give you extra assurance. If negative it could make you anxious when you may well have immunity/t cells etc.

18-04-2021 10:37PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/04/wondering-if-the-covid-vaccine-worked-this-nj-hospital-has-states-1st-vaccine-antibodies-test.html%3foutputType=amp

I have answered my own question.

I think this could be a thing in the summer/Autumn in ireland.

Sweet.Science · 18-04-2021 10:44PM

Turtwig wrote: »

Wish her a speedy recovery. Find the premise of your post strange. Nobody is being forced to take a vaccine. There is also nothing to link either adenovirus viral vector vaccines to clots in the lung. These vaccines are associated with an exceptionally rare clotting disorder that affects the brain and abdomen.

Sigh . I never said anyone has been forced to take a vaccine . The cabal all over your comment I see .

Russman · 18-04-2021 11:07PM

lbj666 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RachelLavin/status/1383741192085467141/photo/1

Can someone shed light on Ms. Lavins model.

Finding the scenarios a bit confusing are the independent of the other ones. Does each scenarios include for the scenario preceding it? (except of No.1 obviously) or are they total independant

Seems a bit confusing to me - how can age restricted AZ finish mid June, but additional Pfizer is late June ? I’m obviously missing something !

All the scenarios look great though in fairness if they come to pass. Over 45s by end of May, can that really be right ? Hope so as that’s me, but I’ve been mentally expecting a month later.

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