Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Micky 32

Micky 32 wrote: »

….and we had McConkey peddling at least another 3-5 years of lockdown/restrictions post vaccination the other day.

It's troubling when our national broadcaster funded by the taxpayer is granting a compulsive liar free rein. Before someone chimes in "but whataboutery" he forecast 50,000+ deaths in Dublin alone by last October. A total fraud.

Back on topic, vaccines are the only meaningful vehicle to exit restrictions in the short to medium term. Longer term, developing ones to keep pace with new variants à la annual flu jab. Covid will be reduced in potency such that it becomes a negligible threat by the autumn. And the vaccination programme has made a considerable impact on hospital admissions, in a few weeks we're bidding farewell to lockdown permanently.

JTMan

thejuggler wrote: »

RTÉ reporting 100 million additional Pfizer vaccines (1 million for ROI) to be delivered by end of year.

Are these extra doses all for Q3/4 of this year? i.e. might only help us in July onwards with second doses, the vaccination of children and a potential booster program?

Strazdas

JTMan wrote: »

Are these extra doses all for Q3/4 of this year? i.e. might only help us in July onwards with second doses, the vaccination of children and a potential booster program?

That could be a big help to our current and imminent rollout though : if we know there area million more Pfizer doses on the way for certain, it might give us the opportunity to speed up the current rollout even further.

Deeper Blue

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I cant believe Staines is peddling the below.

https://twitter.com/astaines/status/1383891376576753668

Completely ignoring the fact that the changes of being exposed in the first place are reduced

Maybe it's his phrasing but the "transmission is unaffected" part makes zero sense to me based on recent evidence.

acer911

What's the deal with the daily vaccine updates now? What time do they come out at? How many days in arrears? Can someone provide a link to the best source?

Lucas Hood

acer911 wrote: »

What's the deal with the daily vaccine updates now? What time do they come out at? How many days in arrears? Can someone provide a link to the best source?

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/integrated-information-service-vaccination-programme-dashboard.html

leahyl

acer911 wrote: »

What's the deal with the daily vaccine updates now? What time do they come out at? How many days in arrears? Can someone provide a link to the best source?

The covid tracker app has the numbers and it says it was last updated on Saturday.

funnydoggy

acer911 wrote: »

What's the deal with the daily vaccine updates now? What time do they come out at? How many days in arrears? Can someone provide a link to the best source?

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/integrated-information-service-vaccination-programme-dashboard.html


The official reports are here anyway, usually released around 9 or 10 each morning.

OwenM

PhilOssophy wrote: »

This is new. Fantastic news. We'll be out of this in no time.

Re Staines and McConkey etc, I have previously defended them on this thread but there is no doubt that they are now bordering on the ridiculous. Saying 3-5 more years of lockdown restrictions, not a hope!

Their approach might have had some relevance at the start - if we had gone zero covid and mandatory quarantine, but their ship has sailed now.

Along with Tomas Ryan and the fifth wave. Really out there on the fringes, an academic with little grip of the real world.

stephenjmcd

Saturday

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1384086729498398720?s=19

Russman

ddarcy wrote: »

Officially Pfizer and Moderna say a max of 7 weeks between doses. I can see it extended but really only to 6 weeks. If they go further than that than you may have legal issues (given the Irish love of lawsuits, I don’t think the HSE/NIAC will go beyond that, someone with no legal experience would be able to win a substantial award...)

Just on that, does the EMA approval for the vaccine depend on a stipulated gap or min/max window between doses ? Like, if we went to, say, 8 weeks which is outside what the manufacturers even say, could we be in breach of the approved use ?

1huge1

funnydoggy wrote: »

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/integrated-information-service-vaccination-programme-dashboard.html


The official reports are here anyway, usually released around 9 or 10 each morning.

T+2 seems reasonable, was it T+4 prevoiusly, I know the wanted to reduce it.

16k doses on Saturday.

Turtwig

Russman wrote: »

Just on that, does the EMA approval for the vaccine depend on a stipulated gap or min/max window between doses ? Like, if we went to, say, 8 weeks which is outside what the manufacturers even say, could we be in breach of the approved use ?

Yep and no. As long as our own HPRA approve the dosing gap we'd be ok.

Knex*

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I stopped paying attention to anything him or that crowd said a long time ago.

Even this morning now they all seem to be playing up the Indian variant. They really love the spotlight & will jump on anything to keep themselves in it no matter what.

All the news & tweets etc on the variants are roughly the same.

- Someone pushes a headline that promotes fear and anxiety, suggesting vaccine won't work on new strain.
- Couple more statements of gloom around the potential impact and danger.
- Finally, a note to the fact that the vaccines do in fact provide protection for said variant, and in fact, all known variants to date.

I genuinely just gloss over any and all news about variants at this stage. For the general public, it's irrelevant. We know the vaccines work, and they need to stop peddling this sensationalist, fear mongering tripe.

Work with what we know now, and give people the optimism they deserve, and the progress our society and economy needs.

Let the scientists work in the background on variants and future boosters, etc., but most people don't need to know or worry about that stuff now. Or potentially ever.

Champagne Sally

I wonder how long they are giving to the 65 to 69yr cohort before starting the registering for the 60 to 64yrs. It will be interesting to see how quick they move between cohorts. All seems to be going very smoothly so far which is great news.

ek motor

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Saturday

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1384086729498398720?s=19

How come less vaccines are administered on Saturdays and Sundays?

Strazdas

Russman wrote: »

Just on that, does the EMA approval for the vaccine depend on a stipulated gap or min/max window between doses ? Like, if we went to, say, 8 weeks which is outside what the manufacturers even say, could we be in breach of the approved use ?

The EMA merely issue 'advice' and have no power to enforce such guidelines, so on that score we could go outside it.

scamalert

Knex* wrote: »

All the news & tweets etc on the variants are roughly the same.

- Someone pushes a headline that promotes fear and anxiety, suggesting vaccine won't work on new strain.
- Couple more statements of gloom around the potential impact and danger.
- Finally, a note to the fact that the vaccines do in fact provide protection for said variant, and in fact, all known variants to date.

I genuinely just gloss over any and all news about variants at this stage. For the general public, it's irrelevant. We know the vaccines work, and they need to stop peddling this sensationalist, fear mongering tripe.

Work with what we know now, and give people the optimism they deserve, and the progress our society and economy needs.

Let the scientists work in the background on variants and future boosters, etc., but most people don't need to know or worry about that stuff now. Or potentially ever.

exactly goverment should be focused on jabbing everyone 24/7 not involved into any political BS or doing more measures, seems they have lost the plot in recent weeks without realizing aside vaccines there is nothing better coming, way news are reported now and fck all glimmer of hope makes people question whats the point of taking vaccines if this **** will continue, most eu countries came out to say they will be operating without restrictions towards vaccinated here were told out of ****ing luck as they have no clear plan going forward which is pathetic of goverment to seed uncertainty.

embraer170

firemansam4 wrote: »

Both my parents are in the 75 - 80 group and have not been called for there first jab yet. When they contacted the doctors a few days ago they were told it could be another 10 days and they would contact them to let them know

Sorry to hear. My mom (75-80 age group) finally got her first dose last week. It must be incredibly frustrating to still be waiting to even get an appointment.

astrofool

ek motor wrote: »

How come less vaccines are administered on Saturdays and Sundays?

Deliveries and logistics usually happen on Sunday/Monday, so supplies are usually dwindling or gone by Saturday/Sunday, any remaining doses from a previous week (at GP offices usually) would have people booked in for the following week to get them (it seems delivery to GP happen every 2 weeks).

celt262

firemansam4 wrote: »

Both my parents are in the 75 - 80 group and have not been called for there first jab yet. When they contacted the doctors a few days ago they were told it could be another 10 days and they would contact them to let them know

That has to be down to mismanagement of the roll out by the practice more than anything else. I would not be at all happy if that was my parents.

Wolf359f

celt262 wrote: »

That has to be down to mismanagement of the roll out by the practice more than anything else. I would not be at all happy if that was my parents.

I think they should open the portal for 70+ also.
At this stage they should have their first dose. If it's down to slow gp's or slow deliveries etc... At least give that group the option to go to a MVC if they want to.
It would be a quick way to sweep up all those 70+ still waiting for an appointment etc...

lucernarian

Wolf359f wrote: »

I think they should open the portal for 70+ also.
At this stage they should have their first dose. If it's down to slow gp's or slow deliveries etc... At least give that group the option to go to a MVC if they want to.
It would be a quick way to sweep up all those 70+ still waiting for an appointment etc...

Is there any reason why this shouldn't happen? Worst case is GPs send out appointments to those who don't need them, and they just refuse the duplicate appointment.

RavenBea17b

Not sure if anyone has posted this already.
Quite an interesting read.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-04-15-risk-rare-blood-clotting-higher-covid-19-vaccines

ixoy

My Mum (75-79 group) got her second dose at the weekend at one of the MVCs. Great work happening there by the GPs.

Valhallapt

lucernarian wrote: »

Is there any reason why this shouldn't happen? Worst case is GPs send out appointments to those who don't need them, and they just refuse the duplicate appointment.

The MVCs are only doing AZ at the moment, probably some complexity in running different booths for Pfizer, by all accounts the MVC are a well oiled machine, might be best not to risk making changes to it, just apply pressure on gps to get the finger out

RavenBea17b

Anyone using the C-19 by ZOE app ? Lots of information updates about findings, helpful and encouraging information updates. Not all doom and gloom. The BLOG updates are informative too.

Wolf359f

Valhallapt wrote: »

The MVCs are only doing AZ at the moment, probably some complexity in running different booths for Pfizer, by all accounts the MVC are a well oiled machine, might be best not to risk making changes to it, just apply pressure on gps to get the finger out

So how are cohort 4 still being vaccinated?
Is it just 60-69 in cohort 4 being done with AZ?
Citywest has been busy all week, certainly didn't look like just 60+ aged people there.

Skygord

acer911 wrote: »

What's the deal with the daily vaccine updates now? What time do they come out at? How many days in arrears? Can someone provide a link to the best source?

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/integrated-information-service-vaccination-programme-dashboard.html

https://covid-19.geohive.ie/pages/vaccinations

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=1219026690

stephenjmcd

Worth a read

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1384112892857905154?s=20