Do you believe in UFOs & flying saucers ?

The reason the military is being more open about it all is partly due to a guy called Chris Melon. Chris is a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations. He even served as the Staff Director of the United States Senate Select Committee on intelligence. Chris had met several airforce pilots who told him they had encounters with aircraft going over 80,000 feet a second and which actively blocked their radar. Chris investigated more and realised that the military had recorded huge amounts of encounters but kept them secret.

Here's Chris talking about the part he played in the Pentagon UFO investigation team. He was deputy assistant secretary for defence so should be taken seriously.

so saw a light in the sky tonight that i can't explain. at first i thought it was an airplane turning in the sky, you know the way you get a full view of the headlights that are quite bright when they turn towards you, but within 2 seconds it just disappeared. i then realised there were no aircraft in the sky (i'm near enough dublin airport to see planes taking off and landing)...then i thought maybe it's the space station as i've seen that in the past but normally i see that whizz by most of the skyline before disappearing...the lights though didn't see as far up as the iss and didn't travel across the skyline...i've just checked the iss tracker and it says there are no sightings in my area at the moment or for the next 2 weeks. i don't believe it was a meteorite as i've seen plenty of those and it wasn't travelling at the same speed...the fact that i mistook it for a plane at first shows how slow it was travelling....anyhow i checked flightradar and nothing in the vicinity so wasn't a plane. absolutely wasn't a firework or a sky lantern or any of that kind of stuff..

i literally just saw it for 2 seconds but it was very bright and then it just disappeared. i have no explanation of what it might have been

steddyeddy wrote: »

The reason the military is being more open about it all is partly due to a guy called Chris Melon. Chris is a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.

You want me to take this guy seriously after being involved in this administrations $hitshow? What was his 'intelligence' doing during that timeframe? Taking a p!ss? If this lad told me that tomorrow is going to be Wednesday I wouldn't believe the hoor

Hamsterchops wrote: »

It will seem very strange when we all wake up one morning (hopefully in June) and the headline news is the fact that we are not alone!

That will be stunning news, like off the scale of stunning. To think that there is another intelligence out there far more advanced than ours and Washington announces that they don't know who they are or where they come from. It really will be the biggest news since the birth of civilization?

Personally I'm not going down the Alien route, more like something else sharing our space from a different dimension? I don't have a clue really, but my God, when that announcement is made, Wow!

My do you think "June" man?

Steve012 wrote: »

My do you think "June" man?

That's the deadline for the Pentagon/CIA report on UFOs.

I’d say this “ufo report” will be fairly underwhelming whenever it actually comes

https://twitter.com/nickpopemod/status/1383154240919539714?s=20

https://mobile.twitter.com/guardian/status/1383086768795353090

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/13/pentagon-investigates-pulsating-pyramid-shaped-ufos-california/

Interesting to see the UK press not ridiculing it now either

MyLove4Satan wrote: »

I have been involved in looking deep into this topic for years and I have come to the conclusion that the ones which are not secret military projects are probably some aspect of quantum effects which we don't fully understand the science of. I also believe that it is rooted in the same experience as fairy folklore. But within the human consciousness of the technological age. Both Carl Jung and Aleister Crowley said that what our ancestors saw as demons and goblins, modern humans experience as flying saucers. I completely agree with this.

I am almost 100% certain they are not nuts and bolts alien space craft. They are akin to disturbances in the quantum field - and there is an element of Entanglement with human observation/perceptions - and this is why when you zoom a camera in on them they become more vague and fuzzy. They are not actually there. We are seeing the effects they have on the localized field. There are even people who can make them appear at will too.

Also, if you look at stories of alien abduction and compare them to Celtic and Scandinavian stories of people being taken by Fairies, the stories are almost identical.

Very interesting viewpoint, can you recommend any reading?

Hamsterchops wrote: »

If Mr West is correct, then what the hell is the Pentagon doing telling us that they are filming UAPs ? Like who's telling the truth? The US Navy and the Pentagon, or Nick West?

Mick West.

None of the live commentary from the Navy pilots concerning the speed of the phenomena can be tallied with Mr West's explanations. He's allowed to be skeptical but its not credible to jump into a situation and just pick explanations out of his arse.

You can be sure the Pentagon aren't telling the truth, at least the whole truth. Thats not their game. But West isn't either because he simply doesn't have any source close to the events.

It'd be foolish for anyone to expect a big reveal in June. Irrespective of the outcome of the report, it can be classified quite easily if it contains any tenuous threat to national security, and so only a few people will see it and even the Congressional Committees will be obliged to keep it zipped.

Is there advanced intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe. Through sheer probability we can say, heck yes. Have they visited this planet? Maybe. But if they have the technology to make the trip, surely they have the technology to easily evade detection...

I hope to live another 50 years. In that time I serious doubt I will see incontrovertible and globally accepted evidence of extraterrestrial life and if I do, its more likely our technology will have advanced to detect it in its own locale, rather than alien tourists being confirmed on Earth.

Even if that information does become known to some narrow section of humanity, the consequences of it becoming public and changing the paradigm of our own civilisation will be too great for those same people to release it.

https://www.audiobooks.com/audiobook/exogenesis-hybrid-humans-a-scientific-history-of-extraterrestrial-genetic-manipulation/410732?refId=39064&gclid=CjwKCAjwjuqDBhAGEiwAdX2cj47iYD5Stovut9c8CH6hVUHVsNFVz1x2V4Hrcd5L3fXItHLDnTe93RoCzFEQAvD_BwE

30 minute sample available above from the book Exogenesis: Hybrid Humans: A Scientific History of Extraterrestrial Genetic Manipulation. Interesting theory.