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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #6482
    zebastein
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭zebastein


    This thread is becoming the meeting point of all the patriots with an injured ego.

    Damn these Italians with their... places where Irish people traveled and bring back the virus". Bad bad Italian people that want a law to be transparent, having precise criteria and clarity on when and how the list is revised. Let's try to find something in their past instead of making things right in Ireland


  • #6483
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    zebastein wrote: »
    This thread is becoming the meeting point of all the patriots with an injured ego.

    Damn these Italians with their... places where Irish people traveled and bring back the virus". Bad bad Italian people that want a law to be transparent, having precise criteria and clarity on when and how the list is revised. Let's try to find something in their past instead of making things right in Ireland


    That bolded bit is true!


  • #6484
    zebastein
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭zebastein


    saabsaab wrote: »
    To be fair it's just their Ambassador. Can you imagine our Ambassador telling Italy what to do? Neither can I.


    I really hope that if something happened to Irish people in Italy, your embassady would do its job.

    An embassady's purpose is to assist and represent the citizen in the host country. That's all they are doing here, representing people that are stuck in MHQ


  • #6485
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    That's cool.

    How's your last year been ? Must have been Nice with such an opinion.

    In reality kids have been out of school for way too long.
    Hospitals have not been treating non covid for far too long.

    I'm hopeful too but lets not get wrong footed again.

    Dja remember when we though the "Kent variant" was made up by Boris?

    I suppose the South African one is made up by the safas.

    https://twitter.com/kniggem/status/1382695006650175489?s=20

    Don’t make me laugh with your “I’m hopeful too” lark, you’ll cry into your Cornflakes when this is all done.


  • #6486
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭brickster69


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Jesus

    Never thought I's say this.

    Good man Stephen Donnelly.

    "I make no apologies to the eu commission , to the Italian ambassador. We have a right to protect the life of people in Ireland"

    Powerful stuff

    Too fu##ing right. Good on him !

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • #6487
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    The italians ... who kept the ski resorts open... can **** off lecturing to anyone about this virus.

    In fairness our state broadcaster, when it had been abundantly clear for weeks that Italy had a problem and for months that covid was a major problem, was telling people in March who texted in worried about skiing trips to Italy to "Gwan way and enjoy your hollydays"


  • #6488
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Brazil - in the states of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo they are running out and or either have a shortage of drugs used that are needed to sedate patients

    As a result the seriously ill are being tied down and intubated without effective sedatives


  • #6489
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    zebastein wrote: »
    I really hope that if something happened to Irish people in Italy, your embassady would do its job.

    An embassady's purpose is to assist and represent the citizen in the host country. That's all they are doing here, representing people that are stuck in MHQ


    He has gone further that that by all accounts. Telling us what to do. I say the Government should ask them to take back their Ambassador and apologize.


  • #6490
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,332 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Brazil - in the states of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo they are running out and or either have a shortage of drugs used that are needed to sedate patients

    As a result the seriously ill are being tied down and intubated without effective sedatives

    Jesvs!


  • #6491
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    I think I just saw Stephen Donnelly grow a back bone on national TV.

    Where's David attenborough when you need him?


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  • #6492
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Who is this woman on the Tonight Show?

    Imported variants are a huge concern due to potentially being vaccine resistant but our way out of this is vaccinating adults...??


  • #6493
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I think I just saw Stephen Donnelly grow a back bone on national TV.

    Where's David attenborough when you need him?
    No point acting Billy big balls now , he should have used that line and went and purchased 5 million vaccines from Pfizer.


  • #6494
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Who is this woman on the Tonight Show?

    Imported variants are a huge concern due to potentially being vaccine resistant but our way out of this is vaccinating adults...??


    If enough people are done it won't have a chance to develop further. Currently they provide a fair degree of protection.


  • #6495
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1382812557656911873?s=20

    Also for the conspiracy theorists out there.


  • #6496
    Batattackrat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭Batattackrat


    Do some people just love fear mongering and been negative.

    It's like they get off on it.

    When we have good case numbers, vacinnes been rolled out and close to opening back up they have to start talking about variants.

    Some people just love doom and gloom.

    Time to unfollow this thread.


  • #6497
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    there should be no exemptions for anyone who has not tested negative or not had a vaccine. If the athletes are not taking tests and testing negative, they should hit the bricks and get into the hotel. Otherwise it proves they cannot handle it and it's crumbling with court case after court case. Simon harris said the cost of the hotels will be footed by the GOVT for returning students..music to their ears...these exemptions come very soon after the Donnelly vs coveny spat...can you spell compromise?? No exceptions in public health.. load of shyte!


  • #6498
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Who is this woman on the Tonight Show?

    Imported variants are a huge concern due to potentially being vaccine resistant but our way out of this is vaccinating adults...??

    Add in the next pandemic will happen in the next 10 years.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • #6499
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    More fuel now Demark have dropped AZ



    https://www.thejournal.ie/germany-recommends-people-avoid-astra-zeneca-covid-19-vaccine-for-second-dose-5409078-Apr2021/


  • #6500
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    gctest50 wrote: »
    More fuel now Demark have dropped AZ



    https://www.thejournal.ie/germany-recommends-people-avoid-astra-zeneca-covid-19-vaccine-for-second-dose-5409078-Apr2021/

    Because theyve enough of the alternatives to not need to use it?


  • #6501
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Because theyve enough of the alternatives to not need to use it?

    Yes, ditching AZ completely has pushed back their expected completion of their vaccination of adults by all of 2 weeks (according to reports on the radio this morning)

    If AZ is that small a part of the supply, any nation would probably take the same action, simply for political reasons


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  • #6502
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Batattackrat wrote: »
    Do some people just love fear mongering and been negative.

    It's like they get off on it.

    When we have good case numbers, vacinnes been rolled out and close to opening back up they have to start talking about variants.

    Some people just love doom and gloom.

    Time to unfollow this thread.

    Yes. If we did have a magic bullet then as sure as night follows day they'd pick holes in that. Sometimes I think that a few on here dig around looking for some obscure "expert" who will have the gloomiest most pessimistic outcome. We should try and remain focused on the here and now which contains alot to be hopeful for.


  • #6503
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Yes. If we did have a magic bullet then as sure as night follows day they'd pick holes in that. Sometimes I think that a few on here dig around looking for some obscure "expert" who will have the gloomiest most pessimistic outcome. We should try and remain focused on the here and now which contains alot to be hopeful for.

    I call them Kermit de Sprogs, in honour of the original scaremongering doom merchant frog himself. I feel the original frog could be indeed some of the Sprogs... but that's all silly talk. Things are on the leap (so to speak) and that's the main thing. People that need to shift through social media for negativity are broken and no Vaccine will help them.


  • #6504
    Champagne Sally
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Champagne Sally


    Faugheen wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1382812557656911873?s=20

    Also for the conspiracy theorists out there.

    What on earth is going on in Offaly?


  • #6505
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    gctest50 wrote: »
    More fuel now Demark have dropped AZ



    https://www.thejournal.ie/germany-recommends-people-avoid-astra-zeneca-covid-19-vaccine-for-second-dose-5409078-Apr2021/
    Denmark are claiming a 1 in 40,000 occurrence, which is way higher. AZ doesn't need to be a core vaccine now in the EU but they still need to get to the bottom of these clots.


  • #6506
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    I usually use the terms "worrying", "turning point" etc with sarcasm ... but this :
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56731801

    Extremely worrying, Chile have ~66% of population with 1st dose, ~27% with 2 doses.

    Also this
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/14/science-proves-boris-johnson-wrong-vaccines-reducing-deaths/

    appears as a good news story, but
    While nearly 40 per cent of unvaccinated people who were infected ended up in hospital, only 32 per cent of the vaccinated cohort did.

    This doesn't seem like a good result - only 8% reduction in hospitalisation due to vaccine ??? Still 32% of vaccinated people in hospital ???


    If this is true than the vaccines won't get us out of this sh1t ....


  • #6507
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Chile are using a crap vaccine, stop looking at Chile.


  • #6508
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    I usually use the terms "worrying", "turning point" etc with sarcasm ... but this :
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56731801

    Extremely worrying, Chile have ~66% of population with 1st dose, ~27% with 2 doses.

    Also this
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/14/science-proves-boris-johnson-wrong-vaccines-reducing-deaths/

    appears as a good news story, but



    This doesn't seem like a good result - only 8% reduction in hospitalisation due to vaccine ??? Still 32% of vaccinated people in hospital ???


    If this is true than the vaccines won't get us out of this sh1t ....
    They are using the SinoVac vaccine, which at 50.4% barely qualifies as effective and the high incidence of cases is also going to make things very tough. Israel and the UK are better examples for the rest of us.


  • #6509
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭otnomart


    snotboogie wrote: »
    In fairness our state broadcaster, when it had been abundantly clear for weeks that Italy had a problem and for months that covid was a major problem, was telling people in March who texted in worried about skiing trips to Italy to "Gwan way and enjoy your hollydays"


    Also worthy of note: Italy closed its borders as early as 9 March 2020.
    Source: BBC News "The government said only those with a valid work or family reason that cannot be postponed will be allowed to travel. Passengers departing on flights will have to justify themselves, as will all those who arrive by plane. "
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51810673
    However, after that date, there was still skying to be had elsewhere in Europe, for those who were keen: France, Switzerland, Austria (let's never forget Ischgl).
    And soon after the masses flocked to Cheltenham (10-13 March 2020)


  • #6510
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    OK, slightly relieved, but still that telegraph stat worries me...


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  • #6511
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,477 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    AdamD wrote: »
    Chile are using a crap vaccine, stop looking at Chile.

    Plus their current wave started in mid-Feb before they'd got their vaccination programme going, and they're still only at 60 doses per capita.

    Israel had a similar surge which was only properly stomped when they got to 100 doses/100 capita with Pfizer.


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