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WWE Spring Cleaning 2021 - Braun Strowman, Aliester Black, Buddy Murphy & More

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  • #52
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    Somebody fantasy booked Joe vs Davey Richards and, God yes do it you cowards!


  • #53
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Joe was savage, a believable badass.
    Still one of my favourite moments was when he told Brock to look at him when he's speaking to him or we can settle this right now. Around 3.30 in the video below.
    Even in that segment where he went nose to nose with him.


    That feud had a proper big fight feel, still think them not putting the belt on Joe at this time was a serious mistake.


  • #54
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    In an ideal world Joe would return to Ring of Honor and reclaim his crown but nobody watches ROH anymore really so I dunno. Rush vs Joe would be sweet though.


  • #55
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,882 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    PWI Insider are reporting that they have been filming new vignettes for Black over the last few days ready to bring him back with a slight gimmick change.

    I'm guessing that goes to the report that he wasn't expected to be released.


  • #56
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    That’s cold on billie Kay. I mean I’ve seen some of her matches from pre wwe and she can wrestle. I think why people say she can’t is because of wwe and how she was presented in ring. I mean her non in ring stuff was genuinely very very funny and any interview I’ve heard her in she comes across as a very genuine person.

    Wasn’t peyton meant be given a push ? Chelsea green will be fine also as she got talent to burn. Bo Dallas ? Meh I asked recently here when he was last on TV and nobody could genuinely say. That speaks volumes.

    Edit: and I know why nia jax and natalya will never be fired but Jesus h Christ while natalya can wrestle, she’s as bland as white paint and nia jax is a walking disaster.


  • #57
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    PWI Insider are reporting that they have been filming new vignettes for Black over the last few days ready to bring him back with a slight gimmick change.

    I'm guessing that goes to the report that he wasn't expected to be released.

    Will probably be worse than the last vignettes featuring him.


  • #58
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,882 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I think Bo is happy being a farmer and having Liv come home to him every night.


  • #59
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Chelsea to join Matt in Impact?

    Who will get the Drake story this time?


  • #60
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    I think Bo is happy being a farmer and having Liv come home to him every night.

    To quote del trotter after he became a millionaire “well we’ve had worse days.”


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  • #61
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,977 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    WWE is a scumbag company. Pure as.

    Budget cuts and they sold the network content for as much as they have. No travel costs at the moment either. They’re more profitable now than ever.

    They can f right off. I cancelled my network after renewing for Rumble to Mania. I’m praying the USA network drops them soon can’t see it happening. But we’ll keep hoping.


  • #62
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,882 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder will they release Robert Stone now they seem to be coming to the end with the cheap TK rib.


  • #63
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,882 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    A year to the day they did the pandemic releases as well.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113167466


  • #64
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,882 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    https://twitter.com/SamoaJoe/status/1382777684443418624?s=20


  • #65
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Loughc wrote: »
    WWE is a scumbag company. Pure as.

    Budget cuts and they sold the network content for as much as they have. No travel costs at the moment either. They’re more profitable now than ever.

    They can f right off. I cancelled my network after renewing for Rumble to Mania. I’m praying the USA network drops them soon can’t see it happening. But we’ll keep hoping.

    I mean we shouldn't really be as surprised as we are, yet somehow we are.


  • #66
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought Joe was older and in his late 40's for some reason. At 42 he'll be a great pick up for a company if he can stay injury free.


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  • #67
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,624 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Wow how does a promotion make a balls of Samoa Joe?

    Damn

    Joe had everything, superb on the mic, badass wrestler but they never went with him

    madness


  • #68
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Headshot wrote: »
    Wow how does a promotion make a balls of Samoa Joe?

    Damn

    Joe had everything, superb on the mic, badass wrestler but they never went with him

    madness

    It's the billion dollar question to be honest.


  • #69
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    ThePott wrote: »
    Joe was savage, a believable badass.
    Still one of my favourite moments was when he told Brock to look at him when he's speaking to him or we can settle this right now. Around 3.30 in the video below.
    Even in that segment where he went nose to nose with him.


    That feud had a proper big fight feel, still think them not putting the belt on Joe at this time was a serious mistake.

    That clip also has one of my favourite Brock Lesnar moments, when he grabs the mic from Heyman, (after Angle proposes Reigns/Lesnar at that years Summerslam) says you gotta be kidding me, you think you deserve this, you don't deserve jack **** buddy, Angle between them thinking Oh ****, and Heyman just beautifully reacting to Lesnar.


  • #70
    OneEightSeven
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    If AEW keeps signing these WWE castoffs, they'll just look like a second-rate promotion like TNA. They should stick to signing stars from other companies and creating their own.


  • #71
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    July 14th 2021 is when the 90 days No compete clause for those released tonight will expire.


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  • #72
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,624 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    July 14th 2021 is when the 90 days No compete clause for those released tonight will expire.

    This clause stuff really ****ing annoys me that they sack these wrestlers but yet expect them not to compete for 90 days


  • #73
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    OneEightSeven wrote: »
    If AEW keeps signing these WWE castoffs, they'll just look like a second-rate promotion like TNA. They should stick to signing stars from other companies and creating their own.

    Haven't we beaten this horse dead enough already, or some variation of it previously?

    All wrestling companies are built on others cast offs. It's how Vince built his empire, it's how WCW did it before that went tits up, that's how TNA did it before they went tits up too and rebranded to GFW then to IMPACT.

    And it's how AEW are doing it, while signing and building their own homegrown talent.

    Good talent in professional wrestling is good talent, regardless of previous affiliation.


  • #74
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    My understanding is the ninety days can be waived if they don’t take a payout.


  • #75
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Headshot wrote: »
    This clause stuff really ****ing annoys me that they sack these wrestlers but yet expect them not to compete for 90 days

    It's the pro wrestling equivalent to a footballer running down the last year of his deal/looking at other options/what club to sign with next when allowed.

    Either way, in this context it's a bull**** clause no matter what way you look at it. Though didn't Brock Lesnar successfully challenge it when he originally left WWE and was ruled in his favour?


  • #76
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I dunno, it's a pretty sh1t thing to do but aren't we always giving out about WWE hording talent?

    Joe aside there isn't one person released today who was going to do fantastically inside the WWE bubble, and will probably have... let's say minimal success elsewhere in most cases.

    Like I get it, they've made a LOT of money this year. I just don't see how releasing lower tier talent who (Joe and Billie Kay aside) weren't even really on TV much, apart from being fired into the Andre The Giant Battle Royale makes them so terrible.

    I think if it were Nia Jax, Natalya, Tamina released there wouldn't be this sort of visceral reaction.

    Not defending WWE here, but they're doing what a lot here have actually wanted them to do for a while now, releasing talent instead of hording them.


  • #77
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Yeah, but citing budget cuts for the 2nd consecutive year as a way to let talent go, after a 2nd consecutive profitable year for the company? Odds on us being back here discussing this again this time next year, and with the WWE using the same lousy excuse to boot?

    I mean, no other sporting organization in the world falls back on this practice. They either re-up contracts with players, sell them on, or just cut them completely.

    Why not just honestly tell talent X, Y or Z - look we're letting you go, but we'll pay you for the next 90 days as a thank you, then we wish you well in whatever you do next after the 90 days are up.


  • #78
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    ThePott wrote: »
    Joe was savage, a believable badass.
    Still one of my favourite moments was when he told Brock to look at him when he's speaking to him or we can settle this right now. Around 3.30 in the video below.
    Even in that segment where he went nose to nose with him.


    That feud had a proper big fight feel, still think them not putting the belt on Joe at this time was a serious mistake.

    Threats a part of wrestling. But you gotta look at the person who's making the threats. This fat son of a bitch, he tells all of us he's been world champion before, been in this business 15, 20 years and this fat son of a bitch is gonna trial us all out!.... HE'S FAT! I'M GONNA, I'LL MAKE HIM BLEED!


  • #79
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Lithium93_ wrote:
    Yeah, but citing budget cuts for the 2nd consecutive year as a way to let talent go, after a 2nd consecutive profitable year for the company? Odds on us being back here discussing this again this time next year, and with the WWE using the same lousy excuse to boot?

    Sure it's a sh1tty way to release talent with reasoning that nobody really believes. You don't like to see anyone lose their job, but tbh there's a lot more to be upset at WWE over than a few talent releases imo.

    The absolute state of their TV product being the main one, and that's with so called established stars.

    Let's all be honest that we didn't sign up to the Network(or whatever we watched it on) for Mania season to see Tucker and Kalisto put on a classic at the showpiece :pac:


  • #80
    ShaneU
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,941 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    I have no idea who tucker is or chelsea green


  • #81
    cian68
    Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    My only opinion is Samoa Joe is a great promo and AEW is a great promo company. I hope both wrestler and promoter put two and two together


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  • #82
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Tucker was Otis's partner in Heavy Machinery. Chelsea got injured near enough to her main roster debut I think


  • #83
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Necro wrote: »
    Sure it's a sh1tty way to release talent with reasoning that nobody really believes. You don't like to see anyone lose their job, but tbh there's a lot more to be upset at WWE over than a few talent releases imo.

    The absolute state of their TV product being the main one, and that's with so called established stars.

    Let's all be honest that we didn't sign up to the Network(or whatever we watched it on) for Mania season to see Tucker and Kalisto put on a classic at the showpiece :pac:

    Especially in a Global Pandemic, like c'mon guys...

    Oh I was getting to their TV product - how is it, that a worldwide, publicly traded on the NYSE company employ a team of over 20 writers with all kinds of TV writing experience and yet for the life of them, they can't create coherent story lines with proper continuity to save their damned lives and.. Yeah short answer Vince McMahon.

    Seriously it's an embarrassment that everything has to be approved by Vince, or rewritten to suit his constantly ever changing whims, sometimes even hours/minutes before show time.


  • #84
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Threats a part of wrestling. But you gotta look at the person who's making the threats. This fat son of a bitch, he tells all of us he's been world champion before, been in this business 15, 20 years and this fat son of a bitch is gonna trial us all out!.... HE'S FAT! I'M GONNA, I'LL MAKE HIM BLEED!
    Gimme a F*$!in Mic!

    4d5.gif


  • #85
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Ah sure, Joe was never chosen to get over in WWE. He hit the glass ceiling. Should just go to AEW or Japan (both if he can broker that deal).


  • #86
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mojo Rawley gone now.

    Could be another few coming yet..


  • #87
    Crooked Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Surprised to see the Viking Raiders survived the axe. Personally, I think they're fantastic, but they've been used for goofy sh1t on the main roster and then disappeared after the injury.

    Frankly, them and Walter are the only current WWE wrestlers id be excited to see on TNT


  • #88
    montyrebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭montyrebel


    roderick strong
    in alumni section on their website too, is
    he
    released or still just storyline?


  • #89
    montyrebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭montyrebel


    sonya deville
    in alumni too??


  • #90
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    Roddy likely to be a cornerstone guy they'll build Evolve around I'd imagine (and that's the guess going around the Web) or it's just to sell the NXT storyline. They aren't getting rid of Roderick Strong.


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  • #91
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Crooked Jack wrote: »
    Surprised to see the Viking Raiders survived the axe. Personally, I think they're fantastic, but they've been used for goofy sh1t on the main roster and then disappeared after the injury.

    Frankly, them and Walter are the only current WWE wrestlers id be excited to see on TNT

    Remember that War Raiders team who kicked ass in NJPW & ROH, winning both companies tag titles along the way? They were excellent, I have no desire to see these Viking Experience goofballs or whatever WWE have turned them into.


  • #92
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    LineOfBeauty wrote: »
    Roddy likely to be a cornerstone guy they'll build Evolve around I'd imagine (and that's the guess going around the Web) or it's just to sell the NXT storyline. They aren't getting rid of Roderick Strong.

    Is that the same Roderick Strong as the guy who used to do backbreakers in Christian era TNA?


  • #93
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Is that the same Roderick Strong as the guy who used to do backbreakers in Christian era TNA?

    Same Roddy Strong, as reliable and consistent as ever.


  • #94
    Crooked Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    RollieFingers wrote: »
    Remember that War Raiders team who kicked ass in NJPW & ROH, winning both companies tag titles along the way? They were excellent, I have no desire to see these Viking Experience goofballs or whatever WWE have turned them into.

    Well that's exactly my point. I'd love to see War Machine show up in AEW's already outstanding tag division.
    I have no desire to see the Viking Experience.


  • #95
    Cotts72
    Registered Users Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    The nxt version of war raiders was pretty decent but like most nxt superstars Vince just ****s on them


  • #96
    Furious-Red
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Cotts72 wrote: »
    The nxt version of war raiders was pretty decent but like most nxt superstars Vince just ****s on them

    I can nearly bet if they are still with the company by this time next year Vince will have split them up e.g. Heavy Machinery


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  • #97
    [Deleted User]
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    I can't claim to watch much WWE these days so didn't really know what each release has been up to lately but have been having a look.

    The Billie Kay release is bizarre. I know she's not brilliant in the ring but her character seemed to be getting over and she's entertaining on the mic. A lot of others that could have been released ahead of her.


  • #98
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,882 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I'm guessing Peyton will join her husband in AEW.


  • #99
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Meltzer said that there'll probably be more releases today and that it'll be NXT cuts.


  • #100
    El Gato De Negocios
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    I've been dipping in and out of AEW, mostly reading the thread in here and watching the odd highly rated match. Someone like Joe would make me a regular viewer, loved him as a performer since I first saw him on TWC way back when.


  • #101
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Kalisto in the BOSJ would be class, hopefully he heads over that direction at some stage!


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