Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

12627293132331

Comments

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    marno21 wrote: »
    Taoiseach confirms extra 545k in Q2.

    Wonderful news. The best vaccine of them all too.

    One vaccine to rule them all

    550141.JPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,440 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    rm212 wrote: »
    Absolutely, fully agreed on all of that. It's all hindsight.

    I don't think Pfizer themselves would have been able to expand the capacity earlier even if they wanted to, it's a bit like saying a company should immediately start mass producing their first prototype before testing it. It's too early to even guess at what large scale manufacture would be and what issues would be found.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    If this happens as planned I'd imagine AZ will be politely told to take their vaccine elsewhere shortly. I'd have no issue taking AZ (I'd take it tomorrow if offered!) but with Pfizer performing like this, AZ are getting less and less worth the hassle.

    Pfizer still aren't going to be enough to save the summer for the economies of Europe.

    Especially if Johnson is delayed as well.

    The impact of that will cost much more in lives lost and destroyed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    If this happens as planned I'd imagine AZ will be politely told to take their vaccine elsewhere shortly. I'd have no issue taking AZ (I'd take it tomorrow if offered!) but with Pfizer performing like this, AZ are getting less and less worth the hassle.

    Denmark have already done it. I suspect others will follow suit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭1huge1


    Good news indeed, I think we all needed it.

    My dad is 67 and immunocompromised. He was supposed to get AZ in a MVC on Saturday but never got the appointment in the end. Fingers crossed he will get it in the next few days and he is off his arthritis at the moment (in anticipation of getting the vaccine) and the pains are quite bad. Every day longer he has to wait, the pain gets worse so you can understand my frustration.
    Danzy wrote: »
    Pfizer still aren't going to be enough to save the summer for the economies of Europe.

    Especially if Johnson is delayed as well.

    The impact of that will cost much more in lives lost and destroyed.

    Hopefully the J&J issue will be sorted in the next few days and we still get the 600k as expected.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Well I don't know about your neighbour, but mine was saying he didn't trust vaccines because a hidden cabal of billionaires, who actually might be lizards in human form, have planned this whole charade by installing 5G antennae all over the world in order to elicit the effects of a virus that doesn't exist, in order to administer to the global population a "vaccine" which will actually be used to suppress the ability for the human race to reproduce.

    Slightly different to the Govt's policy of making decisions based on certain rare side-effects.

    In fairness, you need to invite your neighbour over for drinks and dinner and engage in some riveting conversation with him. Also, when the pubs open, bring him for a feed of pints and get some real perspective on how the world works.. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    rm212 wrote: »
    More than covers that figure that was floating around regarding some doses of AZ possibly going unused with the new guidelines.

    EDIT: In fact, looking at those charts, it gets close to covering the entire Q2 delivery of AZ to the EU!

    That's good to hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Danzy wrote: »
    Pfizer still aren't going to be enough to save the summer for the economies of Europe.

    Especially if Johnson is delayed as well.

    The impact of that will cost much more in lives lost and destroyed.
    J&J looks like a short pause at present.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    We should really have a bank Holiday to honour the guys in Biontech who created the vaccine and the gang at Pfizer who produced it in huge numbers.

    If/when we get out of this, that vaccine is going to have played a massive roll - and to think a few months ago AZ was considered the game changer


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Good news

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ireland-to-receive-545-000-extra-pfizer-vaccine-doses-under-eu-deal-1.4537139

    European Union countries will receive 50 million more Covid-19 vaccines produced by Pfizer and BioNTech in the second quarter, the head of the EU commission said on Wednesday, as deliveries expected at the end of the year are brought forward.

    545,000 more for us. That covers for the bulk of AZ due in Q2 assuming they actually came good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    We should really have a bank Holiday to honour the guys in Biontech who created the vaccine and the gang at Pfizer who produced it in huge numbers.

    If/when we get out of this, that vaccine is going to have played a massive roll - and to think a few months ago AZ was considered the game changer
    mRNA is surely the future. If they can get on the flu with it and if it's as effective against cancers as early reports suggest then it's the future of medicine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    We should really have a bank Holiday to honour the guys in Biontech who created the vaccine and the gang at Pfizer who produced it in huge numbers.

    If/when we get out of this, that vaccine is going to have played a massive roll - and to think a few months ago AZ was considered the game changer

    Yeah they’ve just raised the price massively too, nice gang indeed. Our grandkids will appreciate that bank holiday as they work their asses off to pay back this debt.
    AZ was at least made affordable, and will still be the game changer for poorer (less indebted) countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    mRNA is surely the future. If they can get on the flu with it and if it's as effective against cancers as early reports suggest than it's the future of medicine.


    Rumblings about Alzheimer's too in the last week it seems, alongside CRISPR tech :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Rumblings about Alzheimer's too in the last week :)
    MS too is under research by BionTech.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    Multipass wrote: »
    Yeah they’ve just raised the price massively too, nice gang indeed. Our grandkids will appreciate that bank holiday as they work their asses off to pay back this debt.
    AZ was at least made affordable, and will still be the game changer for poorer (less indebted) countries.

    If they charged Europe 5 times the price it would be cheap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    MS too is under research by BionTech.


    Fantastic. This tech is absolutely unbelievable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    My mum (72) getting hers next Friday, pfizer, dr said 4 weeks to second jab. Delighted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Interesting:
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/romark-announces-initial-results-of-phase-3-clinical-trial-of-nt-300-tablets-for-the-treatment-of-covid-19-301268321.html

    Romark Announces Initial Results Of Phase 3 Clinical Trial Of NT-300 Tablets For The Treatment Of COVID-19



    TAMPA, Fla., April 14, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- Romark announced today initial results of a Phase 3 clinical trial of its investigational new drug candidate NT-300 (nitazoxanide extended-release tablets, 300 mg) versus placebo as a treatment for mild or moderate COVID-19. Based on the findings, Romark is working with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and plans to seek Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

    In the analysis of the primary endpoint, median time to sustained response (a measure of recovery time) was similar for subjects treated with NT-300 compared with placebo (approximately 13 days). In the pre-defined subgroup of patients with mild disease, median time to sustained response was reduced by 3.1 days with NT-300 (10.3 days, n=116) versus placebo (13.4 days, n=129).

    In the analysis of the key secondary endpoint, treatment with NT-300 was associated with an 85% (0.5% of NT-300-treated patients vs. 3.6% of patients treated with placebo) reduction in the progression to severe illness (shortness of breath at rest with SpO2 ≤93% on room air or PaO2/FiO2<300). Only one person treated with NT-300 progressed to severe COVID-19 disease. In the pre-defined subgroup at high risk of severe illness according to CDC criteria, 7/126 (5.6%) of placebo-treated subjects experienced severe illness compared to 1/112 (0.9%) of NT-300-treated subjects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    That Pfizer news is absolutely huge. That's 250k more fully vaccinated people.

    500,000 with a cohort average of 80+ effectiveness if they adopt a one shot strategy and get everyone covered, with a booster/2nd shot once all have got the 80+% protection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    An oral tablet that prevents severe disease. This thread has become positive again. Yays!

    (prelims I know)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Looking for emergency use with the FDA too. Things are progressing :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Government expected to confirm changes to the vaccination programme later today.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0414/1209769-cabinet-vaccination/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    500,000 with a cohort average of 80+ effectiveness if they adopt a one shot strategy and get everyone covered, with a booster/2nd shot once all have got the 80+% protection.

    We'll see i am hopefully they will but, this increased supply may not force them to go beyond 6 weeks dose interval as on the label.

    This news does offset the AZ news for the most part, presuming they will keep going with the over 60s with it.

    I presume at this point that our current allocation of Pfizer/Biontech will be used up by the time tweeked booster is available or the kids turn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    We should really have a bank Holiday to honour the guys in Biontech who created the vaccine and the gang at Pfizer who produced it in huge numbers.

    If/when we get out of this, that vaccine is going to have played a massive roll - and to think a few months ago AZ was considered the game changer

    BioNtech have their own factory in German. That is where most of the extra doses will be coming from. It is capable of manufacturing close to 20m a week!
    Great news. Didn't expect that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    500,000 with a cohort average of 80+ effectiveness if they adopt a one shot strategy and get everyone covered, with a booster/2nd shot once all have got the 80+% protection.

    Unlikely, they won't go off label.

    I'd say a change to 6 weeks between doses more likely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    eoinbn wrote: »
    BioNtech have their own factory in German. That is where most of the extra doses will be coming from. It is capable of manufacturing close to 20m a week!
    Great news. Didn't expect that.
    Bayer are also helping them as will Sanofi and Novartis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,021 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    It highlights a problem with our governments approach since the very start, they completely ignored the human element in all this.

    The young people of this country have been treated disgracefully in this past year, they had everything taken away from them while never being treated as anything more than collateral damage. Their jobs, their education and their chances all taken away and then told to stop whining and "hold firm".

    Now they are being told to take a vaccine that possibly could kill them to protect against a virus that doesn't hurt them, all to protect people that did nothing for them. And we wonder why they may have stopped giving a damn?

    I'm not young and I'll have my vaccine in the next few weeks, but I can completely see how extremely poor messaging and communication this past year has led to a situation where a lot of people may no longer care how selfish they are or are not.

    The opposite of your post , in fact , is true .
    Again , the AZ vaccine has been stopped for those young people precisely because of the risks , and somewhat over cautiously being restricted to only those over 60 who have greater risk from Covid .
    Sorry to ruin your rant with a fact .


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy




This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement