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Annie get your Run · 07-04-2021 7:28pm

ariana` wrote: »

Hi A. I wore them this evening for their maiden voyage. Too soon to tell but i will probably prefer the Ghosts too but for E45 I’ll wear them for 1-2 easy runs a week and knock a few months and a couple of hundred miles out of them. They're lighter than the Ghosts but i know weight isn't everything.

Oh totally agree, they'll be great as a 2nd pair and I'll keep the Brooks for longer runs. Who knows though, they could well become the favourite after a while

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Annie get your Run · 07-04-2021 7:30pm

lulublue22 wrote: »

Found the brooks ghost 13 for €126 . Just wondering about size - I’m a 5 but in the new balance ( which runs small ) I’m a 40.5 which equates to a uk 7. ( according to nb ) In an old pair of Nike zoom pegasus 33 I’m a uk 6 which equates to EU 40 . I bought a pair of nike pegasus that I can’t run in as they are way too big at 6.5 Uk (40.5 EU) Any info re size of Brooks would be great. tks
It would be much easier all round if I could get the NB zante 3 :happy:

I'm a 5 also but usually go 5.5 in runners, including Nike & Brooks. My brooks read 39 in European size.

Beanstalk · 08-04-2021 10:44am

Anyone find any difference in size between Brooks Ghost 12 and 13?

ariana` · 08-04-2021 10:45am

Beanstalk wrote: »

Anyone find any difference in size between Brooks Ghost 12 and 13?

No difference in size per se but the toe box in the 13 is definitely wider, something which suits me but may not suit all I guess.

Beanstalk · 08-04-2021 11:02am

Thanks i think that might actually suit me quite well!

ariana` · 08-04-2021 11:28am

Beanstalk wrote: »

Thanks i think that might actually suit me quite well!

Yeah I had issues with rubbing at the inside of my big toe with the 12 but no such issue with the 13, I have 500 miles on them and very little sign of wear and tear.

Beanstalk · 08-04-2021 11:33am

cool. the brooks 12 when i got them were my normal foot size 9.5 and when i first got them i thought they were a little too snug but after a few runs they were perfect so want to get the same again.

ariana` · 08-04-2021 2:48pm

lulublue22 wrote: »

Tks Ariana - I’m finding it hard to find comparisons between the zante 3 and any other shoe. Reluctant to pull the trigger on a pair of runners that I don’t know but kinda need to buy a pair ��
Will check that website now tks

Did you come across this , it might be helpful.

Updated to add that the Tempo is €104 (20% off) at the moment on Alltricks.com.

zico10 · 08-04-2021 5:20pm

Does anybody else think the last 2-3 months been the most persistently windy 2-3 months they’ve had to deal with since taking up running? Or am I just suffering from selective memory?

shotgunmcos · 08-04-2021 5:36pm

zico10 wrote: »

Does anybody else think the last 2-3 months been the most persistently windy 2-3 months they’ve had to deal with since taking up running? Or am I just suffering from selective memory?

Literally commented on the lack of wind in my latest log post! It wasn't even flat calm, just such a slight breeeze that it felt calm and silent. Its especially noticeable on easy runs when you have to slow down so much to stay within Z1 etc..

I can't remember an interval session yet this year where I haven't encountered wind. Its a rectangular lap and sometimes the tailwind side can feel like cheating in comparison to the effort on the headwind side.

Today I was looking forward to a tailwind for the last few kms home after what felt like a headwind for 20 mins but it seemed to come from all angles :cool:

ariana` · 08-04-2021 5:36pm

zico10 wrote: »

Does anybody else think the last 2-3 months been the most persistently windy 2-3 months they’ve had to deal with since taking up running? Or am I just suffering from selective memory?

Oh thank god it's not just me! Every run seems to be windy. Some days i look out before i go and nothing is moving but as soon as i run in certain directions it feels windy :rolleyes:

Cartman78 · 08-04-2021 6:03pm

Are we talking about flatulence here or metrological conditions?? ;-)

Laineyfrecks · 08-04-2021 8:13pm

zico10 wrote: »

Does anybody else think the last 2-3 months been the most persistently windy 2-3 months they’ve had to deal with since taking up running? Or am I just suffering from selective memory?

Yep...today was particularly horrible, running by hr into a very strong wind is soul destroying! Although I am sure I have been told before that it's character building

OffalyMedic · 09-04-2021 8:26am

Decided to start a 5k-10k program and used a calculator on runnersworld to calculate my easy pace, tempo, vo2 max etc and very surprised at the results. Only started running about 12 weeks ago so still very slow (32.12/5k) so my easy run is working out at just under 8min/km which is almost a quick walk, all runs in week one are easy runs so just double checking I’m correct in running at such a slow pace?

deconduo · 09-04-2021 8:34am

OffalyMedic wrote: »

Decided to start a 5k-10k program and used a calculator on runnersworld to calculate my easy pace, tempo, vo2 max etc and very surprised at the results. Only started running about 12 weeks ago so still very slow (32.12/5k) so my easy run is working out at just under 8min/km which is almost a quick walk, all runs in week one are easy runs so just double checking I’m correct in running at such a slow pace?

Anywhere from 7.15-8.00 per km is about right for your easy pace - assuming that 32 min 5k was an all out effort

OffalyMedic · 09-04-2021 9:45am

deconduo wrote: »

Anywhere from 7.15-8.00 per km is about right for your easy pace - assuming that 32 min 5k was an all out effort

Yeah it was the 5k I done at the end of the couch to 5k, pushed myself as best as I could giving I was on my own (I.e not a race when I assume you would generally be a little quicker given your with other people, motivation etc). Just back from an ‘easy’ run and managed to do 7.19/Km and felt that was slowest I could jog without walking

ariana` · 09-04-2021 10:32am

OffalyMedic wrote: »

Yeah it was the 5k I done at the end of the couch to 5k, pushed myself as best as I could giving I was on my own (I.e not a race when I assume you would generally be a little quicker given your with other people, motivation etc). Just back from an ‘easy’ run and managed to do 7.19/Km and felt that was slowest I could jog without walking

Stick with those paces for now and repeat the 5k in 4 weeks. I bet you will see a big improvement.

Seve OB · 09-04-2021 12:48pm

ariana` wrote: »

Stick with those paces for now and repeat the 5k in 4 weeks. I bet you will see a big improvement.

I’m kinda similar to OffalyMedic
Might take your advice and run a few slow weeks and go for a fast(for me) 5km again
How many runs per week and what distance would you recommend ...... further and slower? Can you go to far, even at east pace?
I reckon I’d have no problem running 10km slow at 8mins pace, was actually thinking of doing one this weekend to see how I get on

ariana` · 09-04-2021 2:15pm

Seve OB wrote: »

I’m kinda similar to OffalyMedic
Might take your advice and run a few slow weeks and go for a fast(for me) 5km again
How many runs per week and what distance would you recommend ...... further and slower? Can you go to far, even at east pace?
I reckon I’d have no problem running 10km slow at 8mins pace, was actually thinking of doing one this weekend to see how I get on

Go a bit further once each week building it up progressively. Most people schedule a long run at the weekend but it is up to you what suits.

This is pretty basic but a sample weekly schedule might be

Mon: 5k easy
Tues: 5k intervals (throw in 6 * 1min faster with 2min gentle jogs recovery between each faster interval. Build this up each week 8 * 1min, 10 * 1min, 4 * 2min, 5 * 2 min, 3 * 3min).
Wed: Rest or Cross train
Thurs: 6k easy
Fri: Rest
Sat: Easy Long run, maybe start at 8-10k and add a km each week or even every second week. Every 3 or 4 week reduce this to give yourself a recovery week.
Sun: Rest

Take it slowly and don't expect miracles of yourself over night, both speed and distance will come with consistency.

Hannibal_Smith · 11-04-2021 10:33am

This is the laziest post ever. I'd say I could easily search the forum and get an answer, but I'm taking the easy way out.

At the moment I do a few stretches when things are already at a critical stage. Its all a bit like grabbing a load of darts and chucking them at a dartboard hoping to hit the bullseye.

I'm after a 15 min routine for stretch calves/legs that I'll hopefully incorporate into my daily routine twice a day?

lulublue22 · 11-04-2021 10:39am

Hannibal_Smith wrote: »

This is the laziest post ever. I'd say I could easily search the forum and get an answer, but I'm taking the easy way out.

At the moment I do a few stretches when things are already at a critical stage. Its all a bit like grabbing a load of darts and chucking them at a dartboard hoping to hit the bullseye.

I'm after a 15 min routine for stretch calves/legs that I'll hopefully incorporate into my daily routine twice a day?

Possibly not what you are looking for but I have the free version of fiton app. Love it - loads of free guided sessions. Pilates, strength , yoga, stretch cardio dynamic warmups etc ranging from 5mins to 30 mins and of varying intensity. You might find something there ?

Hannibal_Smith · 11-04-2021 10:51am

Brilliant! Thanks Lulu just downloaded it there

lulublue22 · 11-04-2021 11:01am

Hannibal_Smith wrote: »

Brilliant! Thanks Lulu just downloaded it there

Enjoy ðŸ˜႒

ThebitterLemon · 12-04-2021 7:44pm

Looking for a bit of advice/guidance.

My 17 year old daughter is going to do a HM with me at the end of August and she’s looking for a bit of structure (hoping to run 2:00-2:10)

Are there any specific plans for “younger” runners or would she be good to go with a generic off the shelf one? I would ideally like her to run 4 days a week

Thanks

TbL

Ceepo · 12-04-2021 8:08pm

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Looking for a bit of advice/guidance.

My 17 year old daughter is going to do a HM with me at the end of August and she’s looking for a bit of structure (hoping to run 2:00-2:10)

Are there any specific plans for “younger” runners or would she be good to go with a generic off the shelf one? I would ideally like her to run 4 days a week

Thanks

TbL

I wouldn't see age as factor in a well rounded training plan. Usual caveat applies regarding progression and recoverys,
Objectively analyse starting fitness, and get a plan to suit fitness and goals.

Be grand

ThebitterLemon · 12-04-2021 8:38pm

Ceepo wrote: »

I wouldn't see age as factor in a well rounded training plan. Usual caveat applies regarding progression and recoverys,
Objectively analyse starting fitness, and get a plan to suit fitness and goals.

Be grand

Cheers K

TbL

ThebitterLemon · 12-04-2021 9:30pm

Anyone recommend a simple (not technical) HM plan for sub 2.15 with 4 days running a week?

Thanks

TbL

Annie get your Run · 12-04-2021 9:34pm

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Anyone recommend a simple (not technical) HM plan for sub 2.15 with 4 days running a week?

Thanks

TbL

Hal Higdon has some great simple plans, he even has an app now, worth a look.

ThebitterLemon · 12-04-2021 9:41pm

Annie get your Run wrote: »

Hal Higdon has some great simple plans, he even has an app now, worth a look.

Thanks AM

They look like just the job

TbL

deisedude · 13-04-2021 8:30am

Can anyone recommend a good running journal / training log book?

Ideally would prefer a specific running /training one than lets say a blank moleskine

Ceepo · 13-04-2021 9:50am

deisedude wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good running journal / training log book?

Ideally would prefer a specific running /training one than lets say a blank moleskine

Mrs C, picked up on at xmas called "The running log book"
Similar to a daily diary but has sections for weather, HR, calories, weight, route, time, speed distance, injuries, thoughts etc.
Seems failry comprehensive tbf,
Not 100% sure where she got it from but I suspect amazon.

BeepBeep67 · 13-04-2021 9:57am

deisedude wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good running journal / training log book?

Ideally would prefer a specific running /training one than lets say a blank moleskine

Irish athlete Roisin McGettigan is involved in this one.
https://www.easons.com/believe-training-journal-electric-blue-edition-lauren-fleshman-9781948007061?gclid=Cj0KCQjwgtWDBhDZARIsADEKwgPrSWNit-RwnNCpENjZPUfTIFDoNN60arKRX3rtg_yTgXqfCmMz-EwaAo6qEALw_wcB

lulublue22 · 13-04-2021 10:28am

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

Irish athlete Roisin McGettigan is involved in this one.
https://www.easons.com/believe-training-journal-electric-blue-edition-lauren-fleshman-9781948007061?gclid=Cj0KCQjwgtWDBhDZARIsADEKwgPrSWNit-RwnNCpENjZPUfTIFDoNN60arKRX3rtg_yTgXqfCmMz-EwaAo6qEALw_wcB

I have that one its grand - bought it on amazon a few years ago - ceepo’s one seems / sounds more comprehensive.

Ceepo · 13-04-2021 11:48am

Attached pictures (hopefully) of the inside of Mrs C diary.
Might give you a better idea.
Seems to be fairly comprehensive,

deisedude · 13-04-2021 8:02pm

Ceepo wrote: »

Mrs C, picked up on at xmas called "The running log book"
Similar to a daily diary but has sections for weather, HR, calories, weight, route, time, speed distance, injuries, thoughts etc.
Seems failry comprehensive tbf,
Not 100% sure where she got it from but I suspect amazon.

Thanks, found it. Exactly what I was looking for

GreeBo · 15-04-2021 7:31pm

/rant

Why oh why can people not walk/run on the left?
It's simple and avoids everyone having to slalom their way around the place.

I'm looking at you old lady this morning!

Special mention for those people who walk on one side with their dog on a leash on the other side.

/end rant

Butterbeans · 15-04-2021 8:30pm

GreeBo wrote: »

/rant

Why oh why can people not walk/run on the left?
It's simple and avoids everyone having to slalom their way around the place.

I'm looking at you old lady this morning!

Special mention for those people who walk on one side with their dog on a leash on the other side.

/end rant

Depends where you're running. On country roads with no paths, where I do a lot of my running, it's safer to run on the right, most of the time.

But yeah, I get your general point.

Swashbuckler · 15-04-2021 9:22pm

Simple rule of thumb. Old lady can walk where she wants. Runner works around that. Simple.

Seve OB · 15-04-2021 9:38pm

GreeBo wrote: »

/rant

Why oh why can people not walk/run on the left?
It's simple and avoids everyone having to slalom their way around the place.

I'm looking at you old lady this morning!

Special mention for those people who walk on one side with their dog on a leash on the other side.

/end rant

Feel your pain. Nearly got tripped last night by an almost invisible dog lead
I’m going to add to that rant.
Why do plonkers run on busy roads beside empty footpaths? So many of them and see it every day. Do they have a deathwish or something?
Saw an old gobsh1te this morning on the canal running against the traffic in cycle lane nearly get whacked by a truck, jump up onto the empty wide footpath out of the way than back out onto the road in front of me ( I was driving, not running)

migozarad · 16-04-2021 7:46pm

The concrete footpath is 7 times harder than the asphalt on the road.If you want to ease impact on the connective tissues,it makes sense to use the likes of an empty cyclepath as I do habitually.

Seve OB · 16-04-2021 9:22pm

migozarad wrote: »

The concrete footpath is 7 times harder than the asphalt on the road.If you want to ease impact on the connective tissues,it makes sense to use the likes of an empty cyclepath as I do habitually.

I’m talking about a narrow enough road with a painted line to indicate a bike lane. It’s not a proper bike path. It’s a fierce busy road. Only a gob****e would run in the middle of it.

wersal gummage · 17-04-2021 12:01am

Seve OB wrote: »

I’m talking about a narrow enough road with a painted line to indicate a bike lane. It’s not a proper bike path. It’s a fierce busy road. Only a gob****e would run in the middle of it.

As a motorist, motorcyclist, cyclist, walker, buggy pusher etc....

Maybe the truck driver is also a gobsh%ite for driving in the cycle lane?

Maybe the jogger was jogging on the road because elderly people turn around corners or come out of houses etc and get an awful fright in current circumstances being faced with, what they may perceive to be, a dirty mouth breathing jogger....

Maybe we should all relax and try give each other some space?

Ps, jogging against the traffic is the correct approach in my view if you are going to jog on roads, at least you can see what's coming and jump out of the way.

lulublue22 · 17-04-2021 11:43am

wersal gummage wrote: »

As a motorist, motorcyclist, cyclist, walker, buggy pusher etc....

Maybe the truck driver is also a gobsh%ite for driving in the cycle lane?

Maybe the jogger was jogging on the road because elderly people turn around corners or come out of houses etc and get an awful fright in current circumstances being faced with, what they may perceive to be, a dirty mouth breathing jogger....

Maybe we should all relax and try give each other some space?

Ps, jogging against the traffic is the correct approach in my view if you are going to jog on roads, at least you can see what's coming and jump out of the way.

You are always supposed to walk/ jog / run against traffic so you can be aware of what’s coming towards you.

ETA - run and walk with a dog - people who walk / run dogs on retractable leads but don’t actually use them when they see people coming towards them are a feckin nuisance though.

BeginnerRunner · 17-04-2021 1:32pm

I've a simple set of rules for this;

Footpath - walk on left, runners pass on right where possible

Footpath with cycle path beside it - if path is busy, run into oncoming bikes

Footpath with cycle path beside it with people walking on cycle path - drop your shoulder and nail the *****

Road with no footpath - run into oncoming traffic

Old person driving or walking? F*ck knows what's gonna happen. Expect the unexpected and leave em away with it.

TFBubendorfer · 17-04-2021 5:05pm

BeginnerRunner wrote: »

Footpath with cycle path beside it with people walking on cycle path - drop your shoulder and nail the *****

Oh man, don't tempt me! Especially the cycle path along Strand Road in Bray. The amount of walkers on it is just mind boggling, and I'm sure they're the same idiots who then complain on Facebook about cyclists on the road.
*** rant over ***

Did you smash it · 17-04-2021 5:20pm

Anyone know how to switch on weekly run summary emails of your completed runs on MapMyFitness? Maybe it’s now only offered to their paying customers..

BeginnerRunner · 17-04-2021 6:38pm

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Oh man, don't tempt me! Especially the cycle path along Strand Road in Bray. The amount of walkers on it is just mind boggling, and I'm sure they're the same idiots who then complain on Facebook about cyclists on the road.
*** rant over ***

Funnily enough, that's exactly where I was referring too.

Or people stopping on either side of the cycle lane with dogs on leads and the dogs having a sniff in the middle of the lane blocking up the entire thing completely.

OOnegative · 17-04-2021 6:47pm

I just don’t get the issues with the whole cycle lane debacle in Ireland, cyclists and runners happily share the cycle paths here and no issues. Obviously bikes get preference, but in the near 4 years I’m here I haven’t experienced one bike user abusing me and asking me to get out of the cycle path. Plus there is a hell of a lot more cyclists here in The Netherlands.

BeginnerRunner · 17-04-2021 7:11pm

OOnegative wrote: »

I just don’t get the issues with the whole cycle lane debacle in Ireland, cyclists and runners happily share the cycle paths here and no issues. Obviously bikes get preference, but in the near 4 years I’m here I haven’t experienced one bike user abusing me and asking me to get out of the cycle path. Plus there is a hell of a lot more cyclists here in The Netherlands.

Cyclists and runners happily exist on cycle lanes in my experience.

The problem is ****ing pedestrians who walk 2/3 abreast or stop for chats in the direction of traffic flow and then get all confused when you call them useless *****.

(1st * = ducking, 2nd * = punts -- I feel very strongly about this)

TFBubendorfer · 18-04-2021 10:40am

OOnegative wrote: »

I just don’t get the issues with the whole cycle lane debacle in Ireland, cyclists and runners happily share the cycle paths here and no issues. Obviously bikes get preference, but in the near 4 years I’m here I haven’t experienced one bike user abusing me and asking me to get out of the cycle path. Plus there is a hell of a lot more cyclists here in The Netherlands.

Sharing the path with a single runner or walker is no problem at all. But when you see groups of walkers spread across the entire cycle path that is a problem, and on that particular cycle path in Bray you see that all day, every day. And the cyclists absolutely do not get preference!

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