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Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,149 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    sy wrote: »
    Or a guy called Wout van Aert :) Who can also TT better than most.

    He could definitely take on Sagan in terms of a varied palmares especially in the classics but I can't see even him get close to Sagan as a sprinter as well. Will definitely be a better TT and GC rider though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Finnrocco


    Would it be fair to say that Sam being the fastest sprinter in the fleet affects his ability to get over the bumpier courses. And if he wanted more success on these 1 day races he would probably need to sacrifice some of that power?

    Now if you are Sam are you happy being the fastest man in the peleton or do you want to mix it up?

    I'd say be happy to be the fastest man and win a stage in every stage race you do, picking up the odd leaders jersey.
    Win TDF green jersey if possible.
    Try win in Madrid in Vuelta.
    Aim for Milan San Remo each year, could have made it over the Poggio without the puncture this year (should be able to match Ewan on a climb like that).

    If he was on a lesser team he could probably do Roubaix as a free shot, like Greipel and possibly Cavendish have done in the past, with QStep he wont get his game in the big classics like RVV and PR, Amstel, but he gets the best lead out in races that suit him.

    He would have to sacrifice too much speed to become better at the classics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,125 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Rumours of Sagan to Quickstep in 2022 can't be good for Sam to have him in the same team again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,451 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    He would only be Sam's lead out man on current form


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,149 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    neris wrote: »
    Rumours of Sagan to Quickstep in 2022 can't be good for Sam to have him in the same team again

    Rumor was that Specialized paid part of his Bora salary to keep him on their bikes so it might be a thing.

    At the same time Lefevre keeps saying he doesn't even have sponsors


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    neris wrote: »
    Rumours of Sagan to Quickstep in 2022 can't be good for Sam to have him in the same team again

    I'm guessing this would only be a case if Sagan brings sponsors with him. Similar to Cab bringing sponsors/money to the team this season. Would have to have his salary covered plus some money into the general team coffers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    Well, Almeida is going to UAE, apparently, and Levfevre will likely lose at least one of Asgreen, Senechal, Stybar and Lampert next season. Sagan would fit into that classics role aongside JA, with Bennett maintaining his role as top sprinter and Evenopoel leading the team in grand tours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,019 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    breezy1985 wrote: »

    At the same time Lefevre keeps saying he doesn't even have sponsors

    Remco has just extended his deal so they’ll be fine...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Dodge wrote: »
    Remco has just extended his deal so they’ll be fine...

    To 2026 :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,837 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Well, Almeida is going to UAE, apparently, and Levfevre will likely lose at least one of Asgreen, Senechal, Stybar and Lampert next season. Sagan would fit into that classics role aongside JA, with Bennett maintaining his role as top sprinter and Evenopoel leading the team in grand tours.
    Lampert is under contract for next year. The four DQS with a contract for least 2022 are JA, Evenopoel, Vansevenant and Lampert iirc. So even Sam is not confirmed at the moment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,149 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    He is now saying he is sure the team is fine. All typical Lefevre


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭deise08


    Sam is Racing tomorrow in Scheldeprijs. Two other Irish riders Sam Nolan and Ben Walsh of Irish team EvoPro.
    Also Alice Sharpe in the first ever women's race.
    Live on Eurosport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    deise08 wrote: »
    Sam is Racing tomorrow in Scheldeprijs. Two other Irish riders Sam Nolan and Ben Walsh of Irish team EvoPro.
    Also Alice Sharpe in the first ever women's race.
    Live on Eurosport.

    Good bit of pressure on Sam tomorrow as he is the favourite and it's a race that all the top sprinters have on their palmares. And Caleb Ewan isn't racing.

    It'll be interesting to see how DQS perform as it's the first time Sam & Cav will be racing together as team mates (I think). Morkov is riding thankfully and so is the flying mullet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,125 ✭✭✭✭neris


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    At the same time Lefevre keeps saying he doesn't even have sponsors

    He always says that and suddenly a sponsor appears at the last minute before riders and agents get all jittery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,149 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    neris wrote: »
    He always says that and suddenly a sponsor appears at the last minute before riders and agents get all jittery

    I've seen more and more Lidl sneaking on to the roadside sponsors. I bet it will be Lidl + one of the current sponsors which could mean a lot more promo work for Sam if I'm right

    This is just a complete hunch though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    deise08 wrote: »
    Sam is Racing tomorrow in Scheldeprijs. Two other Irish riders Sam Nolan and Ben Walsh of Irish team EvoPro.
    Also Alice Sharpe in the first ever women's race.
    Live on Eurosport.

    Weather looking pretty grim for this.

    Wind, hail or even snow may greet riders at Scheldeprijs

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wind-hail-or-even-snow-may-greet-riders-at-scheldeprijs/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,149 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Weather looking pretty grim for this.

    Wind, hail or even snow may greet riders at Scheldeprijs

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wind-hail-or-even-snow-may-greet-riders-at-scheldeprijs/

    The Belgian born Irishman should be made for this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭corelokttikka


    They will all no doubt be able for it. Great to see more Irish competing in both men’s and women’s race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,209 ✭✭✭buffalo


    deise08 wrote: »
    Sam is Racing tomorrow in Scheldeprijs. Two other Irish riders Sam Nolan and Ben Walsh of Irish team EvoPro.
    Also Alice Sharpe in the first ever women's race.
    Live on Eurosport.

    Interview with EvoPro's Morgan Fox:

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/its-an-exercise-in-getting-a-man-in-the-break-having-him-on-tv-all-day-and-try-to-knock-a-top-10-out-of-it-40282004.html
    The second part of their objectives will be the responsibility of experienced sprinter Michael Van Staeyen, but Navan man Seán Nolan and Westport’s Ben Walsh are among the seven-man squad riding in support of the Belgian.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    I've seen more and more Lidl sneaking on to the roadside sponsors. I bet it will be Lidl + one of the current sponsors which could mean a lot more promo work for Sam if I'm right

    This is just a complete hunch though

    As someone who has a new LIDL opening beside him in the next year, if they don't have SAM call back for an opening ceremony and some sort of crit around the car park, I will be disgusted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Good bit of pressure on Sam tomorrow as he is the favourite and it's a race that all the top sprinters have on their palmares. And Caleb Ewan isn't racing.

    It'll be interesting to see how DQS perform as it's the first time Sam & Cav will be racing together as team mates (I think). Morkov is riding thankfully and so is the flying mullet

    They could go for the legendary 'double train' tactic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    happytramp wrote: »
    They could go for the legendary 'double train' tactic.

    Funny was wondering about that earlier. Has this ever happened ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,837 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    He is now saying he is sure the team is fine. All typical Lefevre
    In fairness to him, he hasn't had big name sponsors. It's pretty clear from Instagram/ Facebook that he is managing the multiple sponsors. They all love their post race maes 0.0...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,149 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    In fairness to him, he hasn't had big name sponsors. It's pretty clear from Instagram/ Facebook that he is managing the multiple sponsors. They all love their post race maes 0.0...

    Etixx/Omega were a pharmaceutical and he gets better money than most would out of the likes of Quickstep because DIY chains are huge in Belgium and their win rate attracts decent sponsors.

    It's not an ideal situation juggling all those sponsors but he plays the poor mouth a lot despite doing better than most sponsorship wise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Any chance of Sam racing AGR? seems to be climbing well and might be able to handle the cauberg..... Other than that the only other races coming up before the tour that I can see that might be good for him are romandie and the dauphine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    No hope of Sam winning Sports person of the year after Rachel Blackmore win in the grand national.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,403 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Ceepo wrote: »
    No hope of Sam winning Sports person of the year after Rachel Blackmore win in the grand national.

    He's still in the mix..................

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1380930078981378053


  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is Reilly a cyclist? Always pegged him for one and have no idea why.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Is Reilly a cyclist? Always pegged him for one and have no idea why.
    Not that I remember from college but not something you would notice then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,149 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Pity it's a climbers Olympics given Sams form and the World Championships are essentially the Ronde this year not that I would have much hope for the Irish team either way


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