An Garda Síochána - COVID19

namloc1980 · 10-04-2021 11:56AM

0lddog wrote: »

"The Government’s persistent misrepresentation of citizens’ legal obligations offends the rule of law and corrodes public trust."

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/covid-rules-and-the-rule-of-law-1.4532291

He's right. Shoe shops were told they could open to appointments from last week for kids shoes but the regulations weren't changed and any shoe shop opening for appointments is breaking the health regulations and is open to prosecution. Even the 5km limit has been extended to the 5th of May even though it's supposedly gone from Monday. An utter shambles.

AUDI20 · 10-04-2021 01:23PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

He's right. Shoe shops were told they could open to appointments from last week for kids shoes but the regulations weren't changed and any shoe shop opening for appointments is breaking the health regulations and is open to prosecution. Even the 5km limit has been extended to the 5th of May even though it's supposedly gone from Monday. An utter shambles.

Can't see any notice of this on Gov.ie
This is the notice from 12th April Travel= You can travel within your county or within 20km of your home if crossing county boundaries

namloc1980 · 10-04-2021 02:06PM

AUDI20 wrote: »

Can't see any notice of this on Gov.ie
This is the notice from 12th April Travel= You can travel within your county or within 20km of your home if crossing county boundaries

The statutory instrument for the 5km limit (amongst other restrictions) was extended to the 5th of May.

S.I. No. 157 of 2021 Health Act 1947 (Section 31A - Temporary Restrictions) (COVID-19) (No. 10) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2021

https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/1f150-view-statutory-instruments-related-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/

The notice on the website is not law. It's just a notice, it has no legal standing.

0lddog · 10-04-2021 02:49PM

AUDI20 wrote: »

Can't see any notice of this on Gov.ie
This is the notice from 12th April Travel= You can travel within your county or within 20km of your home if crossing county boundaries

Lol!

What a perfect illustration of the point of the letter in The Irish Times.

See AUDI20, the legal position is as namloc1980 posted.

You have been suckered into exactly what is described at

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/l...-law-1.4532291

"The Government’s persistent misrepresentation of citizens’ legal obligations offends the rule of law and corrodes public trust."

nc6000 · 10-04-2021 03:19PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/VirginMediaNews/status/1380574982284091393

Hard to know what to make of those numbers. There are roughly four times as many fines given for attending a party versus organizing a party.

Are they Gardai going around breaking up parties with an average of five people at them?

Stark · 10-04-2021 04:19PM

Those five were the five who couldn't run very fast

gzoladz · 10-04-2021 07:06PM

... If it was County restrictions it would be easy, but where are they planning to put the checkpoints with this County and 20km hybrid approach?

mloc123 · 10-04-2021 07:08PM

gzoladz wrote: »

... If it was County restrictions it would be easy, but where are they planning to put the checkpoints with this County and 20km hybrid approach?

Checkpoints are done... From Monday travel is a free for all IMO

DebDynamite · 10-04-2021 07:09PM

gzoladz wrote: »

... If it was County restrictions it would be easy, but where are they planning to put the checkpoints with this County and 20km hybrid approach?

I was wondering about this one... maybe on the main roads as you leave one county for the next - N3, N7, etc?

Tenzor07 · 10-04-2021 07:10PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Checkpoints are done...

Only if it's raining out! :pac:

SEPT 23 1989 · 10-04-2021 07:12PM

They will target reg plates

Tenzor07 · 10-04-2021 07:15PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They will target reg plates

Only in Ireland eh?

10-04-2021 07:18PM

It’s nonsense that we’ve had these silly travel restrictions for 7 months now when no other country deems them necessary.

Let’s hope we don’t have to deal with this silly inconvenience anymore.

10-04-2021 07:19PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They will target reg plates

I’m fooked so, I have a 211D and the car has never been in, within 75 miles of, Dublin.

GazzaL · 10-04-2021 07:26PM

The Gardaí are absolutely sick of checkpoints, they mostly just sit in their cars now.

They are also absolutely sick of running around dealing with complaints from miserable, nosey curtain twitchers who are reporting tradespeople for working.

Lantern Jaw · 10-04-2021 07:28PM

Drive in and around Dublin for a living and haven't seen a checkpoint in a month.

ninebeanrows · 10-04-2021 07:33PM

When do we think the county restrictions will end, do we think countrywide travel will be allowed on next easement in mid May?

SEPT 23 1989 · 10-04-2021 07:34PM

Lantern Jaw wrote: »

Drive in and around Dublin for a living and haven't seen a checkpoint in a month.

Do you drive up the quays

ninebeanrows · 10-04-2021 07:36PM

There is always a checkpoint in and around O'Connell Bridge, one on Amiens Street and on Malahide Road near the Artane roundabout.

rolling boh · 10-04-2021 07:40PM

I think if your tax and insurance disc are in order they seem to wave you on handy enough have seen the checkpoints in the same places since this lockdown started unlike the previous one .

10-04-2021 07:41PM

I drive from Tipp to Dublin a couple of times a week, and rarely see a checkpoint.

Back in January I had to do 2 trips from South Tipp to North of Belfast, 700KM journey and not one Guard/PSNI in sight.

I bet if I wanted to go for a stroll on the beach, I would meet one.

Johnthemanager · 10-04-2021 07:42PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’m fooked so, I have a 211D and the car has never been in, within 75 miles of, Dublin.

They can check where the car is registered

JustAThought · 10-04-2021 07:46PM

NoDrama wrote: »

I drive from Tipp to Dublin a couple of times a week, and rarely see a checkpoint.

Back in January I had to do 2 trips from South Tipp to North of Belfast, 700KM journey and not one Guard/PSNI in sight.

I bet if I wanted to go for a stroll on the beach, I would meet one.

Absolutely - AND you would get a ticket on your car for some sin when you got back from your walk - I’ve seen 100+ tickets lashed out onto windscreens in an hour by ) garda - mostly fixed penalty notices for parking in grass verges, some no tax etc.. You couldn’t make it up.

I’d say the hills of Wicklow will be a hotspot for e500 fineos - and Wexford for the holiday homes - all roads in and out!

Like the parks and beaches during the first lockdown - total targets.

beggars_bush · 10-04-2021 08:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s nonsense that we’ve had these silly travel restrictions for 7 months now when no other country deems them necessary.

Let’s hope we don’t have to deal with this silly inconvenience anymore.

Other countries had nightly curfews

Beasty · 10-04-2021 08:57PM

Threads merged

Witcher · 10-04-2021 08:58PM

JustAThought wrote: »

Absolutely - AND you would get a ticket on your car for some sin when you got back from your walk - I’ve seen 100+ tickets lashed out onto windscreens in an hour by ) garda - mostly fixed penalty notices for parking in grass verges, some no tax etc.. You couldn’t make it up.

I’d say the hills of Wicklow will be a hotspot for e500 fineos - and Wexford for the holiday homes - all roads in and out!

Like the parks and beaches during the first lockdown - total targets.

Gardai don't leave tickets on windscreens so that's a lie

Beasty · 10-04-2021 09:03PM

GazzaL wrote: »

The Gardaí are absolutely sick of checkpoints, they mostly just sit in their cars now.

They are also absolutely sick of running around dealing with complaints from miserable, nosey curtain twitchers who are reporting tradespeople for working.

I would probably have given you a threaban for your curtain twitchers comment, but as you are already banned from the AGS thread (having posted in the thread I merged into this) please be aware that threadban remains in place

Stark · 10-04-2021 10:10PM

ninebeanrows wrote: »

When do we think the county restrictions will end, do we think countrywide travel will be allowed on next easement in mid May?

Rumours were originally July but now sometime in June due to vaccination program ramping up.

Kivaro · 10-04-2021 11:48PM

My personal experiences of encountering the Gardai on the road is 99% positive and professional. I abhor that we are in a situation that we are asked where we are going by law enforcement in a supposedly free Western democracy, but the Gardai have been ordered to carry out this duty, so that's what they have to do. The last time I was stopped, I told them that I was going to a hardware shop, and he said "grand". I was not going to lie and say that I was going to a grave or food shopping irrespective of the fear mindset that the government wants to instill in all of us.

But it is a sad situation in the manner that the Government tries to restrict our movements, which is why we should restrict their powers in the future to carry out such invasive prohibitions. Since they got away with it during Covid, who knows when they will try to do it again for whatever reason that they deem necessary.

gzoladz · 11-04-2021 07:46AM

Stark wrote: »

Rumours were originally July but now sometime in June due to vaccination program ramping up.

The objective is to allow people take a staycation, so any decision made for the last few weeks and until late June will be geared towards not having restrictions during the school break season.

An Garda Síochána - COVID19

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