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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #5282
    Azatadine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Always_Running wrote: »
    Only you.

    Yazoo and covered by The Flying Pickets.


  • #5283
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Knine wrote: »
    You may be asymptomatic when you go for the test at the Walk in Centres but that can rapidly change. It certainly did for my family & it left one of us in hospital.

    Weren't you recently tested positive? Or am I thinking of the wrong poster? Hope all is well now.


  • #5284
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,956 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Yazoo and covered by The Flying Pickets.

    Portishead too although a different song with same title. :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #5285
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    Plan for what exactly?
    The HSE, it's what they were working on before they were so rudely interrupted!


  • #5286
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    With numbers we've been having lately, is this more seasonal? More people spending it outdoors?
    A lot Europe are dealing with a surge and we had to deal with our own surge this time last year.


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  • #5287
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Vaccine rates are really ramping up on the continent. Germany will be doing a million a day from next week.

    They should reach heard immunity by early June.

    Hungary should reach herd immunity by late May- given shots to 30% of population already and ramping up.


  • #5288
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Vaccine rates are really ramping up on the continent. Germany will be doing a million a day from next week.

    They should reach heard immunity by early June.

    Hungary should reach herd immunity by late May- given shots to 30% of population already and ramping up.

    Do you have a link to the German 1 million per day article? Thanks


  • #5289
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Do you have a link to the German 1 million per day article? Thanks
    Reuters.
    German health minister Jens Spahn said the country was heading towards giving 3.5 million vaccinations a week by the start of May, aiming to cover the population by the end of summer.


  • #5290
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Do you have a link to the German 1 million per day article? Thanks

    Sorry, i only heard it from a German friend and havent been able to find an article on it

    I found this graph thought of recent increase

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  • #5291
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    prunudo wrote: »
    Maybe because for months on end we have been told things we can't do, ie can't visit other households and they rarely tell us the things we can do. I for one, have never heard MM, any other senior member of government or Nphet tell us to visit parents or vulnerable people.

    No that doesn't explain it at all. If I had any doubt about the regulations or restrictions - I'm damned sure I'd use my trusty old googling device to look up the actual government web page.

    And I have heard about it from multiple official sources that caring for others is exempt from restrictions.

    Other than putting up large billboards explaining this stuff I'm not sure what really can be done tbh.


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  • #5292
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    The Big Easy wrote: »
    Lots of people's parents are neither vulnerable nor live alone!

    Yet more evidence that those most in favour of restrictions, either don't believe they apply to themselves, or misinterpret them to suit themselves.

    Ballcocks. The wording is "older or vulnerable". And a parent "living alone" does not exclude the other two criteria.

    Now I don't know about anyone else but I've yet to meet anyones parents (as we were discussing) who are younger than them. (I'm sure there's some somewhere maybe). And some may be both ie vulnerable and older, or indeed all three - ie vulnerable, older and living alone. Or they just may be older!

    The above wording is detailed relating to essential travel but is also explained for those that live here - as giving care to a vulnerable person or attending to other vital family matters

    To paraphrase yet more evidence that those with 'de anti gubermint / anti restrictions nonsense will do the damnest to fudge the actual facts or misinterpret them to suit themselves


  • #5293
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    saabsaab wrote: »
    'We are in a race against time to get global transmission rates low enough to prevent the emergence and spread of new variants. The danger is that variants will arise that can overcome the immunity conferred by vaccinations or prior infection.'


    https://theconversation.com/new-covid-variants-have-changed-the-game-and-vaccines-will-not-be-enough-we-need-global-maximum-suppression-157870


    We may have only one good shot at this.

    Are you serious? MHQ to 2024 then. Just in case.....


  • #5294
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,236 ✭✭✭prunudo


    gozunda wrote: »
    No that doesn't explain it at all. If I had any doubt about the regulations or restrictions - I'm damned sure I'd use my trusty old googling device to look up the actual government web page.

    And I have heard about it from multiple official sources that caring for others is exempt from restrictions.

    Other than putting up large billboards explaining this stuff I'm not sure what really can be done tbh.

    Well for whatever reason, whether you believe it or not, as has been shown by multiple posters on these boards, plenty of people haven't been calling by their parents as they believe its against the guidelines. And I firmly believe its due to the messaging from authorities that visiting households and not travelling beyond 5km was against the guidelines. And I'm aware these weren't the actual guidelines and 5km was only for exercise.


  • #5295
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Are you serious? MHQ to 2024 then. Just in case.....

    Best not to give too much time to those people who want to lock us up for years on end. You have a normal view, they have a cautious view.


  • #5296
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    prunudo wrote: »
    Well for whatever reason, whether you believe it or not, as has been shown by multiple posters on these boards, plenty of people haven't been calling by their parents as they believe its against the guidelines. And I firmly believe its due to the messaging from authorities that visiting households and not travelling beyond 5km was against the guidelines. And I'm aware these weren't the actual guidelines and 5km was only for exercise.

    Its also been discussed repeatedly in this forum. Many many times.

    Its also easy to look up the guidelines on gov.ie or the citizens information website.


  • #5297
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,236 ✭✭✭prunudo


    gozunda wrote: »
    Its also been discussed repeatedly in this forum. Many many times.

    Its also easy to look up the guidelines on gov.ie or the citizens information website.

    Like I said, there are many people who were confused by the rules. This also extends to Gardai on checkpoints who have intimidated people who try to say what they are doing is okay by the rules. Many people haven't been checking up on family members for fear of being fined. Its great that you discovered the website with the exact wordings, many others haven't.


  • #5298
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    saabsaab wrote: »
    'We are in a race against time to get global transmission rates low enough to prevent the emergence and spread of new variants. The danger is that variants will arise that can overcome the immunity conferred by vaccinations or prior infection.'


    https://theconversation.com/new-covid-variants-have-changed-the-game-and-vaccines-will-not-be-enough-we-need-global-maximum-suppression-157870


    We may have only one good shot at this.

    is that you george lee ?

    clickbait boll1x


  • #5299
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Best not to give too much time to those people who want to lock us up for years on end. You have a normal view, they have a cautious view.


    Sensible view too. Just obey the rules.


  • #5300
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    So one year on from Ireland’s first lockdown:

    - We’ve been in a state of lockdown since apart from a brief reopening over the summer & Christmas and still have had thousands of cases, deaths and hospitalisations - and nothing else to show for it
    - NPHET are still used as a defacto Government because the people in charge don’t want the responsibility to make meaningful decisions. A group of doctors with only Covid as their remit have been given the authority to dictate policy across all Departments. To the point some of them would tweet against Government policy during the last 12 months in an attempt to drum up public support. Our leadership & running of a tight ship has been non-existant.
    - We’ve decided now that we’ve effective vaccines coming and the end is nigh to introduced mandatory hotel quarantine - and include travellers from the EU & US...I can hardly believe this as I type. Martin even suggesting today they’d set up a hotel in Wexford to ‘catch’ travellers coming from France?! So effectively an attempt is now being made to imprison the citizens of Ireland here & prevent families from going abroad for a holidays, no matter what the Covid levels in said country or vaccination situation.
    Not to mention they’re throwing fully vaccinated people into the quarantine for no apparent reason.
    The absolute decimation of our tourist industry, FDI & future investment and other issues this will cause our workforce is scary to think about.
    - We’ve people like Gerry Killeen out tweeting support for Martin’s Wexford hotel idea & also encouraging policing of the border with the North...where they’re all vaccinated? The same man who wanted to keep schools closed, get masks on 5 year olds & Ireland in a permanent lockdown.
    - They decided to keep the 5k limit for the Easter holidays for fear children and families might enjoy themselves in the open countryside. Need to keep those local parks full & people in a depressed state after all for anyone who’s actually still following the 5k that is.
    - No plan is developed for post Covid healthcare crisis. Why on earth am I seeing posts about people diagnosed with cancer who are getting no treatment or care? They should get onto national tv right now and state their case. Also call a solicitor & demand answers as to why they’re not being seen.


  • #5301
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    So one year on from Ireland’s first lockdown:

    - We’ve been in a state of lockdown since apart from a brief reopening over the summer & Christmas and still have had thousands of cases, deaths and hospitalisations - and nothing else to show for it
    - NPHET are still used as a defacto Government because the people in charge don’t want the responsibility to make meaningful decisions. A group of doctors with only Covid as their remit have been given the authority to dictate policy across all Departments. To the point some of them would tweet against Government policy during the last 12 months in an attempt to drum up public support. Our leadership & running of a tight ship has been non-existant.
    - We’ve decided now that we’ve effective vaccines coming and the end is nigh to introduced mandatory hotel quarantine - and include travellers from the EU & US...I can hardly believe this as I type. Martin even suggesting today they’d set up a hotel in Wexford to ‘catch’ travellers coming from France?! So effectively an attempt is now being made to imprison the citizens of Ireland here & prevent families from going abroad for a holidays, no matter what the Covid levels in said country or vaccination situation.
    Not to mention they’re throwing fully vaccinated people into the quarantine for no apparent reason.
    The absolute decimation of our tourist industry, FDI & future investment and other issues this will cause our workforce is scary to think about.
    - We’ve people like Gerry Killeen out tweeting support for Martin’s Wexford hotel idea & also encouraging policing of the border with the North...where they’re all vaccinated? The same man who wanted to keep schools closed, get masks on 5 year olds & Ireland in a permanent lockdown.
    - They decided to keep the 5k limit for the Easter holidays for fear children and families might enjoy themselves in the open countryside. Need to keep those local parks full & people in a depressed state after all for anyone who’s actually still following the 5k that is.
    - No plan is developed for post Covid healthcare crisis. Why on earth am I seeing posts about people diagnosed with cancer who are getting no treatment or care? They should get onto national tv right now and state their case. Also call a solicitor & demand answers as to why they’re not being seen.


    Nothing to show for it? What did you expect from a pandemic? Wehave avoided probably 50,000 deaths and now the vaccine is on the way. That's something.


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  • #5302
    72sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep


    It's going to be so exciting to see which variant wins the Covid championship league this year. Make sure to cheer for your favorite and buy all the merchandise. Isn't it all so much better in this new virtual world that you have been gifted!

    Remember that the politicians are protecting you and you must stay inside for the safety of your community. (You should ignore the fact that not a single powerful nor rich person seems to be scared of covid-19. Their lives are completely unaffected but that is not relevant to you.)

    Meanwhile in the real world, the behavioural psychologists are absolutely stunned by your docile compliance. Wouldn't you rather take a micro-dose of an anti-depressant, along with your next vaccine booster shots, so that you could "go hard" and self-isolate for another couple of a years? Answers on a postcard to the Caribbean islands which is where we all are.


  • #5303
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭Miike


    72sheep wrote: »
    It's going to be so exciting to see which variant wins the Covid championship league this year. Make sure to cheer for your favorite and buy all the merchandise. Isn't it all so much better in this new virtual world that you have been gifted!

    Remember that the politicians are protecting you and you must stay inside for the safety of your community. (You should ignore the fact that not a single powerful nor rich person seems to be scared of covid-19. Their lives are completely unaffected but that is not relevant to you.)

    Meanwhile in the real world, the behavioural psychologists are absolutely stunned by your docile compliance. Wouldn't you rather take a micro-dose of an anti-depressant, along with your next vaccine booster shots, so that you could "go hard" and self-isolate for another couple of a years? Answers on a postcard to the Caribbean islands which is where we all are.

    What have you been taking? and more importantly, where can I get some?


  • #5304
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,054 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Miike wrote: »
    What have you been taking?

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  • #5305
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,896 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Nothing to show for it? What did you expect from a pandemic? Wehave avoided probably 50,000 deaths and now the vaccine is on the way. That's something.


    Where are you getting 50,000 deaths from?

    Even the worst performing country for deaths p/m (Czechia) "only" has 27,466 registered deaths.


  • #5306
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,792 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Nothing to show for it? What did you expect from a pandemic? Wehave avoided probably 50,000 deaths and now the vaccine is on the way. That's something.

    It's like we have gone back to the very first Covid thread.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #5307
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    It's like we have gone back to the very first Covid thread.


    You weren't posting back then at least under that name. We didn't have 50,000 that's the point we did something about it as most have. 1% death rate of cases allowing it to spread.


  • #5308
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,716 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    saabsaab wrote: »
    You weren't posting back then at least under that name. We didn't have 50,000 that's the point we did something about it as most have. 1% death rate of cases allowing it to spread.

    The death rate isnt as high as 1%. This is established fact at this stage


  • #5309
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,502 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    saabsaab wrote: »
    You weren't posting back then at least under that name. We didn't have 50,000 that's the point we did something about it as most have. 1% death rate of cases allowing it to spread.


    There's zero chance we'd have come close to 50,000 deaths, regardless of restrictions or lack thereof


  • #5310
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    The death rate isnt as high as 1%. This is established fact at this stage

    As it's an established fact, would you like to share the death rate with the rest of us?


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  • #5311
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,049 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Deeper Blue wrote:
    There's zero chance we'd have come close to 50,000 deaths, regardless of restrictions or lack thereof
    Can you explain that with math please. Like you are making a factual statement there.


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