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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • #3932
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Given that there isn't one other country in the developed world doing what we are doing, there are a lot more countries laughing at us...and why wouldn't they!!!

    It is clear NPHET need to be stood down and let our elected leaders dictate the pace of re opening...before every last young person with a brain and ambition has emigrated.

    Absolutely NOT !

    It would be short sighted to simply stand them down,as it would allow these people to slip away off the hook,with the ability to always thereafter be seen to have done the right thing.

    What IS badly needed is for a far more robust consideration to be given to NPHET's recommendations,a long overdue process of allowing the contrarian's a voice and the ability to challenge or engage NPHET's members in Public Debate.

    At no point in this "Emergency" has NPHET been required to explain,justify or defend ANY of it's "advice" to Cabinet.

    It is now high time to do a value-for-money audit of NPHET and perhaps more importantly a cost-benefit analysis of their continuing belief in Restrictions as the main tool of suppression.


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #3933
    dalyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    paddyisreal wrote: »
    Israel medical guy from their department of health on newstalk basically laughing at the Irish government for putting them on the quarantine list..
    You have to ask do this government actually have an iota what they are at?

    But what about the variants ?

    You know , the vaccine resistant variants?

    The fact that these variants don’t exist NOR is there any scientific evidence that they ever will exist shouldn’t stop the implementation of this social media communist mob locking up healthy and fully vaccinated people.

    Sure what could possibly go wrong !


  • #3934
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,233 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173


  • #3935
    dalyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173

    I wonder can we expect Amazon to withdraw their tubs too ?

    Talk about virtue signalling get woke go broke economics.
    Unreal fools


  • #3936
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173

    You couldn't make this stuff up. This country is the drizzling ****s.


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  • #3937
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Boggles wrote: »
    What are you talking about Niallo? I have stuck to the restrictions by and large much like your good self.

    Not in the last month, have been drinking most weekends with the lads, no covid in clare.


  • #3938
    paddyisreal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173

    I'd say nphet are afraid it will turn into a hot tub time machine and people will remember what life was like in better times


  • #3939
    themacattack.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭themacattack.


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173

    100 per cent behind aldi in these challenging times what a brave decision...and we the people of ireland do not deserve hot tubs anyway,they are sinfull dirty little tubs of bacteria....


  • #3940
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 949 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173

    They likely had complaints. Notions of “fairness” are very strong in humans. There have been studies where people have been offered a sum of money, say €200, with the proviso that if they take it, someone else will also be given money, but it’ll be €400. A ridiculously high number of people refused. They would rather nobody receive anything than see “unfair” distribution.

    So there are some people who will feel that if they’re being made to suffer lockdowns and restrictions and are following them to the letter, up to and including only buying essential groceries, everyone should. The very idea that someone might sit in a newly acquired hot tub in their garden and enjoy themselves with a glass of Prosecco on a floating tray is going to give them the shakes.


  • #3941
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173


    Well,maybe not quite idiocy......they may have gotten advance notice of the latest Irish Scientific investigation,doubtless on NPHET's desk as we speak....

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-shops-most-likely-source-of-infection-study-1.4532350

    Feck !...Women !....Drink !!.............and SHOPS !!!!!! :(

    Mind you,it does take some hard neck to put stuff like this in a "Scientific" report :D
    The first comprehensive study of community transmission of Covid-19 in the State has identified shops as the most likely source of infection.

    Since March 31st, contact tracers investigating confirmed cases have been going back seven days instead of two days in an attempt to identify how people got infected.

    Of the 3,476 positive cases since then, 787 (22 per cent) were as a result of community transmission, where the source of infection is not known. More than 60 per cent of these community transmission cases were recorded in Dublin.

    Of those who did not know the source of their infection, 55.8 per cent mentioned shops as the most likely place they would have picked up the disease in the previous seven days.

    :D:D:D

    Keep them damn shops CLOSED...d'ye hear me ?........CLOSED :eek:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • #3942
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They likely had complaints. Notions of “fairness” are very strong in humans. There have been studies where people have been offered a sum of money, say €200, with the proviso that if they take it, someone else will also be given money, but it’ll be €400. A ridiculously high number of people refused. They would rather nobody receive anything than see “unfair” distribution.

    So there are some people who will feel that if they’re being made to suffer lockdowns and restrictions and are following them to the letter, up to and including only buying essential groceries, everyone should. The very idea that someone might sit in a newly acquired hot tub in their garden and enjoy themselves with a glass of Prosecco on a floating tray is going to give them the shakes.

    Give these people a Uniform & Title and then you'll see Diesel being sucked....better still give them a weapon !!! :eek::eek::eek:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #3943
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173

    I despise this country with a burning passion. Literally ashamed to be Irish.


  • #3944
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Hooked wrote: »
    Isn't it only supposed to be for exercise - not travel, per-se?
    No matter - I won't be adhering to it.

    Must check RIP.ie for a funeral 'to crash' this weekend...

    They've rebranded it as 'exercise and recreation'.

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  • #3945
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    11521323 wrote: »
    I despise this country with a burning passion. Literally ashamed to be Irish.

    But,but...they're Germinz...?

    I have to say,Dunnes Stores have played a blinder all through this stuff,managing to keep a reasonable approach to the largely nonsecial edicts of NPHET..........

    ;)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #3946
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173

    https://twitter.com/rameirerob/status/1380134997726756871


  • #3947
    darem93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭darem93


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This sums up the idiocy of everything we have had the last year.

    https://twitter.com/Aldi_Ireland/status/1380134422784135173
    We're actually a laughing stock at this stage.

    Why don't they just remove beef burgers from all supermarkets too just in case the reckless public get notions and start having barbeques? :rolleyes:


  • #3948
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    That's good to know. Even though we can go county wide from Monday I still don't really want to be stopped by the police if I am travelling outside 5km from the 12th..

    Why?

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  • #3949
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    darem93 wrote: »
    We're actually a laughing stock at this stage.

    Why don't they just remove beef burgers from all supermarkets too just in case the reckless public get notions and start having barbeques? :rolleyes:

    Good thinking !...Your suggestion has been passed upwards to Mr Goodman's office for approval.....should'nt take long :D !


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #3950
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    It is shocking and we all just sit back and let it happen. Trusting these ultra conservative hawks. Disgusting.

    I'm shocked that you are sitting back and letting it happen...

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  • #3951
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    darem93 wrote: »
    We're actually a laughing stock at this stage.

    Why don't they just remove beef burgers from all supermarkets too just in case the reckless public get notions and start having barbeques? :rolleyes:

    Well actually, the bureaucrats have already articulated the dangers of passing gravy boats at Xmas, handing burgers to another person is problematic and possibly deadly....did you not see the ads?

    We are some joke...


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  • #3952
    the kelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Interesting to get a view on our lockdown from an international perspective.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/04/why-ireland-has-the-most-miserable-lockdown-in-the-western-world/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Is it far off the mark ?

    And the most bizarre thing of all is we regularly have people on the thread sitting up until 2 and 3am pretty much every night defending everything we have done here during this pandemic whilst the rest of the world just sits shaking its head in disbelief looking at us.

    It’s those people I feel sorry for.


  • #3953
    dalyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    11521323 wrote: »
    I despise this country with a burning passion. Literally ashamed to be Irish.

    It’s amazing but 12 months ago I’d have replied something horrible to you for your feelings on this country.
    Now ? I feel the same.

    There’s not as much as one redeeming feature I can point to in this country worth positively recognising anymore.

    It’ feels like everything of worth has been obliterated and there’s not a shred of hope for the future here.

    We have effectively turned into a communist state now.

    (1) the government fund the economy and its inhabitants

    (2) we have our personal behaviour mandated (masks)

    (3) our ability to leave the country is limited to acceptance of what can only be described as criminally extortionate (€1900 mhq , €2000 for daring to leave vaccinated or not)

    (4) all basic indoor and outdoor leisure facilities gates locked (even though it violates the known science behind outdoor transmission)

    (5) protesting all but banned by using underhand propaganda media tactics not seen since WW2 to whip the public to submission.

    (6) families and friends (your basic network of human support) forcibly detached from you under threat of shaming on national media or in extreme cases fined or arrested.

    I’m sure there’s more examples

    And all this for a virus with a fatality rate of 0.3%.

    You’d really have to be all but brain dead not to be asking some serious questions at this point as to what the endgame and real motives that are behind this entire narrative.


  • #3954
    dublinbando
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭dublinbando


    What do you expect for Ireland? most of the good/smart people left 10 years ago :rolleyes:


  • #3955
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    ypres5 wrote: »
    He actually asked me for the same thing yesterday and I linked to a post he made last week saying all domestic construction was open. After i did that he became very evasive (out of character for him) and he hasn't responded to me since

    Can you link to it again please? I've read every post on this (these) thread(s). I can't believe I missed it twice.

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  • #3956
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Boggles wrote: »
    You mean this post?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116747958&postcount=2304


    I stopped responding to you because you kept derailing the thread with your inability to understand what I posted, although I explained it to you several times.

    But you kept claiming I was liar.

    I think I have been more than patient and fair.

    Oh, I see. You saying, "Domestic construction isn't shut..." has turned into, "All domestic construction is open." Yeah. No.

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  • #3957
    ypres5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Oh, I see. You saying, "Domestic construction isn't shut..." has turned into, "All domestic construction is open." Yeah. No.

    He also said the majority of construction workers are working here and has yet to provide a source for his claims so explain that one away


  • #3958
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    dalyboy wrote: »
    It’s amazing but 12 months ago I’d have replied something horrible to you for your feelings on this country.
    Now ? I feel the same.

    There’s not as much as one redeeming feature I can point to in this country worth positively recognising anymore.

    It’ feels like everything of worth has been obliterated and there’s not a shred of hope for the future here.

    We have effectively turned into a communist state now.

    (1) the government fund the economy and its inhabitants

    (2) we have our personal behaviour mandated (masks)

    (3) our ability to leave the country is limited to acceptance of what can only be described as criminally extortionate (€1900 mhq , €2000 for daring to leave vaccinated or not)

    (4) all basic indoor and outdoor leisure facilities gates locked (even though it violates the known science behind outdoor transmission)

    (5) protesting all but banned by using underhand propaganda media tactics not seen since WW2 to whip the public to submission.

    (6) families and friends (your basic network of human support) forcibly detached from you under threat of shaming on national media or in extreme cases fined or arrested.

    I’m sure there’s more examples

    And all this for a virus with a fatality rate of 0.3%.

    You’d really have to be all but brain dead not to be asking some serious questions at this point as to what the endgame and real motives that are behind this entire narrative.

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing
    Total Tests Completed
    4,136,374
    Total Positive Tests
    247,299
    Total Positive Rate (%)
    6

    But who will think of the 3,889,075 negative tests.....:(

    Since 16th March 2020.
    Total Cases Hospitalised
    13,760
    Total Cases Requiring ICU
    1,447

    From Sept 2020......

    https://www.thejournal.ie/icu-bed-numbers-5217685-Sep2020/
    “In 2009, the HSE said we needed 579 ICU beds. Could you please confirm the figures on this? We have about 280 at the moment. And that is down from the 354, we had in April,” he said.
    Separately, he (Paul Reid) said, there also is funding in the Winter Plan for an extra 17 beds, bringing the number close to 300.

    Pre-Covid capacity: 225
    Temporary surge capacity: 354
    Current permanent capacity: 280
    Capacity after Winter Plan funding: 297

    There's an Emergency alright,but it has little to do with Corona or any other virus.......:mad:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #3959
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,233 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    NPHET didn't close businesses, the virus did.
    We were practically at Zero Covid last summer and half the country was shut :rolleyes:

    https://twitter.com/gabysayshey/status/1380225565391777797


  • #3960
    ypres5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    normanoffside wrote: »
    NPHET didn't close businesses, the virus did.
    We were practically at Zero Covid last summer and half the country was shut :rolleyes:

    https://twitter.com/gabysayshey/status/1380225565391777797

    That reeks of damage control. Expect to see more of this soft guff in the coming months while the government and nphet play pass the parcel as to who's to blame for ****ing over the economy


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  • #3961
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    normanoffside wrote: »
    NPHET didn't close businesses, the virus did.
    We were practically at Zero Covid last summer and half the country was shut :rolleyes:

    https://twitter.com/gabysayshey/status/1380225565391777797

    Sound man Doc Ronan....

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/covid-19-one-of-the-lowest-causes-of-death-in-ireland-between-june-and-september-2020-1.4511871
    There were 191 coronavirus deaths in Ireland between June and September last year out of a total of 7,111 deaths over those three months.Greater causes of death between June and September of last year were cancer (2,356), followed by diseases of the circulatory system (1,964), dementia (348) and respiratory illness (333). Accidents accounted for 217 deaths, Alzheimer’s for 125, with 94 people taking their own lives.

    The average age for death by Covid-19 between between June and September last year was 84, with the average age of all deaths in the period at 81.

    In general, death rates between June and September 2020 in Ireland were lower than for the equivalent period in 2019 despite the pandemic, latest figures from the CSO show.

    I may be a bit wayward,but the CSO are not quite on-message here...are they ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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