Ultimate Battle of South America

KathleenGrant · 08-04-2021 4:12pm

The vote of the Grant Jury

Carabobo 4-0

We loved the warmth of the colours on the flag plus the added warmth of the sun. The colours are reflective of the national flag (without the green) but the symbolism in the colours give the state ownership also.
We felt the symbolism of the bloodshed of the liberators combined with the Arch of Carabobo are great ways to celebrate the nationalism of the people. The arch is iconic and looks wonderful against the sun. We felt the green stripe adds interest.

We all liked Rivera but felt it couldn't compete with Carabobo.

Irish Aris · 08-04-2021 4:14pm

I will vote for Carabobo too.
I like the arch - it feels as if it is in the background, yet very distinct.

ChannelNo5 · 08-04-2021 4:14pm

Got to say I'm loving the deliberations of the Grant jury. The family investment is delightful

KathleenGrant · 08-04-2021 4:14pm

The Arch of Carabobo: this would definitely be on my list of things to see if I would travel.

KathleenGrant · 08-04-2021 4:22pm

ChannelNo5 wrote: »

Got to say I'm loving the deliberations of the Grant jury. The family investment is delightful

It's a nice way to spend the last 2 days before 2 of them have to head back to work/college.
We are probably a big pack of nerds (no probably about it I hear you say) but it's an enjoyable activity for an afternoon instead of watching TV or whatnot. The kids are raging I didn't involve them sooner.

Omackeral · 08-04-2021 4:30pm

Neck and neck for a while but in the end a decisive win

Carabobo advances to the Semi Finals

Sawduck · 08-04-2021 4:34pm

KathleenGrant wrote: »

The vote of the Grant Jury

Carabobo 4-0

We loved the warmth of the colours on the flag plus the added warmth of the sun. The colours are reflective of the national flag (without the green) but the symbolism in the colours give the state ownership also.
We felt the symbolism of the bloodshed of the liberators combined with the Arch of Carabobo are great ways to celebrate the nationalism of the people. The arch is iconic and looks wonderful against the sun. We felt the green stripe adds interest.

We all liked Rivera but felt it couldn't compete with Carabobo.

Your family have great taste in flags

Omackeral · 08-04-2021 4:40pm

KathleenGrant wrote: »

The kids are raging I didn't involve them sooner.

Get them back on board for the May Ultimate Battle!

Omackeral · 08-04-2021 5:00pm

Santa Cruz

Province of Argentina

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Tierra del Fuego

Province of Argentina

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Sawduck · 08-04-2021 5:04pm

Santa Cruz - two of my favourite ones, I actually don't mind which one advances but I'll go with Santa Cruz, the sun, mountains and sea come together really well

cdeb · 08-04-2021 5:07pm

That's a cracking little flag for Santa Cruz. Nice blue background, cool mountains, bit of sun and sea. Makes me want to go there now actually.

Purgative · 08-04-2021 5:07pm

Tierra del Fuego every day of the week and twice on a chocolate sundae.

Its, unique, with unusual colours and an unusual design

Omackeral · 08-04-2021 5:13pm

I’m breaking with tradition and casting a vote in my own tournament. Santa Cruz is too busy. It’s trying to do too much. Also brown on a flag as well as two different shades of blue. Tierra del Fuego, on the other hand is doing more by doing less, nearly always a good shout when it comes to flags. Those particular shades of blue and orange are very good in unison and the albatross is majestic. The constellation gives it that local southern marker that’s needed yet it goes in seamlessly.

Vote Tierra del Fuego

Cosmo Kramer · 08-04-2021 5:15pm

Both of these are great. For me Tierra del Fuego is a step up on most of the competition here though.

Everything in it has meaning - the orange for fire (Fuego), the outline of the albatross is very clever and the sea/sky and stars/Southern cross are both meaningful to the region as well.

All included in a flag that is both nice to look at and simple to draw at the same time. It's excellent.

So Tierra del Fuego gets my vote.

JP Liz V1 · 08-04-2021 5:17pm

Santa Cruz has a bit more going on so gets my vote

Zaph · 08-04-2021 5:20pm

Tierra del Fuego - the blue and orange look great together and brown should never appear on a flag. Ever.

ari101 · 08-04-2021 5:22pm

They are neighboring provinces and I have amazing memories of both.

I like the simple but inventive construction of TdF overall but the colour orange and I struggle to get on.

I'm going for Santa Cruz and thinking about... happy times hiking near Fitz Roy, visiting Perito Moreno, enjoying the fine local beers and a selection of great food and wine... sigh... I think I'm gonna have to go back some time

KathleenGrant · 08-04-2021 5:22pm

Santa Cruz
The light blue represents the sky and the sun as an element of divinity that was and is for indigenous races. The rising sun is the symbol of dawn, of the youth of this province that contains the night, the southern cross, the Chaltén hill, emblems of the Aonikenk, the ancient race of these lands, in an inner semicircle.

Tierra del Fuego
The flag is A diagonal bicolor of sky blue and orange with an albatross in the center and the Southern Cross in the fly.
The orange section symbolizes the fire that gives the name and is a stylized representation of the contour of the Argentine sector of Tierra del Fuego, while the blue represents the sea that surrounds the island and the sky, through the Cross of the South, whose stars also represent the South Atlantic Islands claimed by Argentina. The albatross is part of the local fauna, and its flight represents freedom. The albatross is the symbol for Tierro del Fuego.

Irish Aris · 08-04-2021 5:23pm

I'll vote for Santa Cruz.
I like the combination of mountains and sea.

SineadSpears · 08-04-2021 5:29pm

I dont like the seagull so Santa Cruz if i must please

ChannelNo5 · 08-04-2021 5:31pm

Tierra del Fuego. i wasn't mad on this in the beginning but its really grown on me and more so since reading the explainer. i just like what it represents.

SineadSpears · 08-04-2021 5:31pm

the blue and orange working together on TdF is a good point. i'm swayed a little..

KathleenGrant · 08-04-2021 5:36pm

Tierra del Fuego 4-0

We love the colours of the flag- the orange that gives the province its name (meaning land of fire) and the blue representing the expanse of sky and also the waters that surround it.
The albatross is a beautiful way to break the colours but it has wonderful symbolism of its own- the albatross is very seldom seen ashore but can be seen here and it has hence become a symbol of the province. it is in flight signifying liberty.
As said already the Southern Cross has special significance and is used on many flags in South America but here it is given pride of place as it represents the southern islands.

For those who say it has less going on, its simplicity adds to its beauty and it is not so busy as others.

For us this flag has majesty and we put it miles ahead of Santa Cruz.

Omackeral · 08-04-2021 5:53pm

SineadSpears wrote: »

I dont like the seagull so Santa Cruz if i must please

SineadSpears wrote: »

the blue and orange working together on TdF is a good point. i'm swayed a little..

It’s a majestic albatross, not a seagull. Fuego means fire, hence the orange. Blue is the sea. The stars are the southern cross constellation. It’s really awesome!

Tierra is the business. Do it for your old pal Mack!

SineadSpears · 08-04-2021 6:04pm

Omackeral wrote: »

It’s a majestic albatross, not a seagull. Fuego means fire, hence the orange. Blue is the sea. The stars are the southern cross constellation. It’s really awesome!

Tierra is the business. Do it for your old pal Mack!

I know it's not a seagull, that was my way of insulting it because birds like that are ugly. only eagles and owls are lovely :P

KathleenGrant · 08-04-2021 6:04pm

Omackeral wrote: »

It’s a majestic albatross, not a seagull. Fuego means fire, hence the orange. Blue is the sea. The stars are the southern cross constellation. It’s really awesome!

Tierra is the business. Do it for your old pal Mack!

And your new best pal Kathleen.

SineadSpears · 08-04-2021 6:05pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Do it for your old pal Mack!

actually does this part mean you want me to change my vote!?

Barna77 · 08-04-2021 6:06pm

Tierra del Fuego
A Flag of Ice and Fire

Orange and blue work perfect there

KathleenGrant · 08-04-2021 6:07pm

SineadSpears wrote: »

actually does this part mean you want me to change my vote!?

I don't think he asked that in fairness. You hinted you might be changing and he just nudged you to make up your mind.

SineadSpears · 08-04-2021 6:10pm

KathleenGrant wrote: »

I don't think he asked that in fairness. You hinted you might be changing and he just nudged you to make up your mind.

oh was that taken as me making a hint to change?

oops.

no I was just saying how after readibg others saying how nice the blue and orange were together, that it was swaying me to like it more ..

Zaph · 08-04-2021 6:11pm

SineadSpears wrote: »

I know it's not a seagull, that was my way of insulting it because birds like that are ugly. only eagles and owls are lovely :P

Surely you're not suggesting that Maribou Storks aren't lovely? :pac:

SineadSpears · 08-04-2021 6:16pm

Zaph wrote: »

Surely you're not suggesting that Maribou Storks aren't lovely? :pac:

that poor thing looks like it had hot tar thrown on it

KathleenGrant · 08-04-2021 6:16pm

Also called the undertaker bird as if the appearance was not attractive enough on its own.:)

SineadSpears · 08-04-2021 6:21pm

I wonder is that bird were they got inspiration for your your one from The Witches (original) :pac:

KathleenGrant · 08-04-2021 6:22pm

SineadSpears wrote: »

I wonder is that bird were they got inspiration for your your one from The Witches (original) :pac:

Quite possibly now that you say it.

SineadSpears · 08-04-2021 6:23pm

I dont know how to post images but it's the image of her lol

Montage of Feck · 08-04-2021 6:56pm

Oh you gotta be, oh you gotta be

'Cause Santa Cruz
You're not that far
Oh Santa Cruz,
No, you're not that far

Omackeral · 08-04-2021 7:08pm

Right folks it’s a tie after an hour. I’m gonna be unashamedly happy to announce that I’m putting my favourite through. But it’s not without merit. Sinead’s ability to question her choice was probably the deciding factor. Either way...

Tierra del Fuego advances to the Semi Finals

Omackeral · 08-04-2021 8:17pm

So we are down to the Final Four. The semi finals and final will all be run tomorrow night from around 7:30PM onwards. Would love to see everyone there.

breezy1985 · 08-04-2021 9:16pm

SineadSpears wrote: »

that poor thing looks like it had hot tar thrown on it

And has a serious tumor on its back.

It's head reminds me of cartoon animals when they get blown up by acme dynamite and are left with no fur

Omackeral · 09-04-2021 1:07pm

Friendly reminder that our semi finals and grand final will be taking place tonight from 7:30 PM onwards. Join us then if you can!

KathleenGrant · 09-04-2021 1:11pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Friendly reminder that our semi finals and grand final will be taking place tonight from 7:30 PM onwards. Join us then if you can!

The Grant family can't wait!!

SineadSpears · 09-04-2021 1:19pm

I'm home alone tonight with no kiddo's to interfere help with the voting.

But i'll be lovely and relaxed so i'll either be very positive with my answers, or i'll get a bit excited and act the bollox with negativity

pickarooney · 09-04-2021 1:59pm

Lets hope the Brazilians are drawn in separate matches so they can both be dumped out and give us the final we want: Stargate v Albatros

Omackeral · 09-04-2021 7:05pm

We go live in 25 minutes

Omackeral · 09-04-2021 7:30pm

Brazil

Country of South America

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Carabobo

State of Venezuela

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Barna77 · 09-04-2021 7:31pm

Carababo

Call it Stargate, two towers or whatever

KathleenGrant · 09-04-2021 7:32pm

Brazil
The flag of Brazil is a blue disc depicting a starry sky (which includes the Southern Cross) spanned by a curved band inscribed with the national motto "Ordem e Progresso" ("Order and Progress"), within a yellow rhombus, on a green field. The green field and yellow parallelogram came from the previous imperial flag (though slightly modified in hue and shape).
Each star corresponds to a Brazilian Federative Unit, is sized in proportion relative to its geographic size, and, according to Brazilian Law, the flag must be updated in case of creation or extinction of a state. The stars are arranged to represent the the stars in the night sky as viewed over the city of Rio de Janeiro on November 15, 1889, the day Brazil gained independence from Portugal.

Carabobo
The purple red represents the blood shed by the liberators during the battle of Carabobo; blue represents the access to the sea, which symbolizes Carabobo's universality. The sun stresses that the flag represents the light dominating the darkness; the Arch of Carabobo, commemorating the battle that strengthened the national independence, is part of the essence of Carabobo. The thin green stripe represents the agricultural and ecological potential of the State.

Purgative · 09-04-2021 7:33pm

Brazil For a national flag its very stylish. Instantly recognizable. As pleasant as Carabobo is it needs something (some white maybe) to lift it.

JP Liz V1 · 09-04-2021 7:46pm

Brazil more iconic recognisable

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