Gas BBQ/Grilling

A2LUE42 · 29-03-2021 10:14pm

thejaguar wrote: »

The Garden House in Malahide were selling the Weber Q2200 for €299 the other week.

Edit: just had a look on their site and it looks like the offer is gone

Coop Superstore selling this model at that price at the moment.

Dizzyblonde · 30-03-2021 1:48pm

That's a great price, most places like Woodies raised it to €349 last year after selling it for €299 for a few years.

kop-end · 30-03-2021 1:55pm

A2LUE42 wrote: »

Coop Superstore selling this model at that price at the moment.

Woodies are back doing the Weber Q2000 (no thermosat) for €299
I picked this up last year, love it, perfect for a family of 4

https://www.woodies.ie/weber-q-2000-grill-with-stand-gas-bbq-titanium-1101969

doctorchopper · 30-03-2021 4:40pm

ctlsleh wrote: »

has anyone upgraded from a standard genesis 300 to one with the sear station burner (335 of 435) and is the sear station worth the extra cash?

cheers

I have the sear station on my genesis and use it quite often for steaks and rib roasts. It came with it, don't know if you can upgrade it afterwards though. it. also helps pre heat the bbq quicker

woodchuck · 30-03-2021 4:53pm

A complete BBQ novice here... for the first time ever, I finally have my own garden to BBQ in! With the warmer weather starting to roll in, I'd like to buy a BBQ, but gave NO idea what I'm doing.

We'll probably go for gas, just because it's easier. Does it taste as good as charcoal ones though or do you need to do anything extra to get that smokey flavour?

Anything in particular to look out for or avoid when shopping around?

cubatahavana · 30-03-2021 5:02pm

woodchuck wrote: »

A complete BBQ novice here... for the first time ever, I finally have my own garden to BBQ in! With the warmer weather starting to roll in, I'd like to buy a BBQ, but gave NO idea what I'm doing.

We'll probably go for gas, just because it's easier. Does it taste as good as charcoal ones though or do you need to do anything extra to get that smokey flavour?

Anything in particular to look out for or avoid when shopping around?

Gas is very fast and easy to use. You can always add wood in a “smoking box” to add more flavor. I have a 4 burner one and it’s great.

Look for good build quality. I don’t know if the 1k+ for a Weber is worth it though. I paid around 500 for mine (woodies special offer last year) and I really like it. I’m buying a second charcoal kamado bbq now for the summer, but that’s just greed, my gas bbq is perfect for almost anything other than slow cooks (hours long)

Get a meat thermometer

cee_jay · 30-03-2021 7:06pm

woodchuck wrote: »

A complete BBQ novice here... for the first time ever, I finally have my own garden to BBQ in! With the warmer weather starting to roll in, I'd like to buy a BBQ, but gave NO idea what I'm doing.

We'll probably go for gas, just because it's easier. Does it taste as good as charcoal ones though or do you need to do anything extra to get that smokey flavour?

Anything in particular to look out for or avoid when shopping around?

I'm a complete novice too, only using my new bbq this week, but for me, I chose gas for the ease of use, and how quick I could get it going in the evening. For example I cooked steaks on it this evening after work - it was up to cooking temperature a lot quicker than charcoal would. There are ways to get the smokey taste into food when you need it.

Weber bbqs look amazing but I couldn't justify it until I knew I would use it a lot. I got this one in Argos:
https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/4162494/Trail/searchtext%3EGAS+BBQ.htm
It was mentioned in a few online articles as being good value for money and budget. I did take 2 men 4 hours to assemble though.

kop-end · 30-03-2021 7:49pm

woodchuck wrote: »

A complete BBQ novice here... for the first time ever, I finally have my own garden to BBQ in! With the warmer weather starting to roll in, I'd like to buy a BBQ, but gave NO idea what I'm doing.

We'll probably go for gas, just because it's easier. Does it taste as good as charcoal ones though or do you need to do anything extra to get that smokey flavour?

Anything in particular to look out for or avoid when shopping around?

You wouldn’t have to break the bank to jump into a Weber pal, have a look at the below gas Weber in Woodies. I picked it up last summer and have been using it non-stop for the past 10 months, rain, hail or snow.... perfect for a family of 4

https://www.woodies.ie/weber-q-2000-grill-with-stand-gas-bbq-titanium-1101969

A2LUE42 · 30-03-2021 8:35pm

I just bought a gas propane BBQ and have some propane cylinders, but the valve/regulators don't match. The BBQ seems to have a 'Patio Gas' regulator and the propane tanks are different. See pic below.

Is there a simple adapter to buy or should I get a different regulator or buy patio gas cylinders instead?

Sorry for the questions, but not familiar with gas at all

woodchuck · 30-03-2021 8:37pm

Thanks for the advice guys, a lot of food for thought!

For the Weber one, I don't think it has a shelf inside? We're wondering if that's something worth having, so we can keep some food warm while other food is still cooking.

I also saw that homestore and more have a sale atm:
https://www.homestoreandmore.ie/bbq-accessories
They all seem to be the "master cook" brand. Any idea if those are any good?

Do BBQs generally come with a cover or is that something we'd need to buy separately?

einn32 · 03-04-2021 8:50am

woodchuck wrote: »

Thanks for the advice guys, a lot of food for thought!

For the Weber one, I don't think it has a shelf inside? We're wondering if that's something worth having, so we can keep some food warm while other food is still cooking.

I also saw that homestore and more have a sale atm:
https://www.homestoreandmore.ie/bbq-accessories
They all seem to be the "master cook" brand. Any idea if those are any good?

Do BBQs generally come with a cover or is that something we'd need to buy separately?

I have a baby weber and it doesn't have a shelf. I just put cooked items to the side where it's cooler. After a while you get to know how to time it all so it all can be served together. You can turn off burners also. It can do everything but space is the issue. Pizza are not great off it but roasts are perfect with a meat thermometer. I've a Bluetooth one to my phone. I guess a bigger size for a family is warranted.

cubatahavana · 03-04-2021 1:59pm

woodchuck wrote: »

Thanks for the advice guys, a lot of food for thought!

For the Weber one, I don't think it has a shelf inside? We're wondering if that's something worth having, so we can keep some food warm while other food is still cooking.

I also saw that homestore and more have a sale atm:
https://www.homestoreandmore.ie/bbq-accessories
They all seem to be the "master cook" brand. Any idea if those are any good?

Do BBQs generally come with a cover or is that something we'd need to buy separately?

I use the shelf on my bbq all the time. If you’re cooking, let’s say, 7-10 pork chops, you can put them on the shelf once they’re done, as probably they’ll all reach internal temperature at different times. That keeps them warm. My set up is a 4 burner with usually 3 of those burners on, and then the food that is done goes on the shelf on top of the off burner (the one to the side)

cubatahavana · 05-04-2021 4:10pm

Spare ribs going into the grill soon

cubatahavana · 05-04-2021 6:20pm

Progress...

jarvis · 05-04-2021 10:04pm

Not convinced this is the right place but here goes.

I just hit a Weber Q2000 bbq. My bro in law tells me it needs Patio Gas (6kg bottle). I have an older bbq and I’ve always used it with a standard yellow Callie gas bottle. Will this do for the Weber does anyone know? Not sure it makes a difference but the Weber is technically a grill with no charcoals I’d just rather not have to get a second gas bottle when I have a nearly full one already. Can’t seem to find a Straight forward plain English answer anywhere online.

monkeybutter · 05-04-2021 10:08pm

jarvis wrote: »

Not convinced this is the right place but here goes.

I just hit a Weber Q2000 bbq. My bro in law tells me it needs Patio Gas (6kg bottle). I have an older bbq and I’ve always used it with a standard yellow Callie gas bottle. Will this do for the Weber does anyone know? Not sure it makes a difference but the Weber is technically a grill with no charcoals I’d just rather not have to get a second gas bottle when I have a nearly full one already. Can’t seem to find a Straight forward plain English answer anywhere online.

You can use any gas bottle, but the regulator which connects to the top of the butane/ yellow is different from the propane/patio bottle, the propane regulator is what comes with Weber bbqs

If you have a regulator from an old bbq just use that, or you can buy a new one

jarvis · 05-04-2021 10:11pm

monkeybutter wrote: »

You can use any gas bottle, but the regulator which connects to the top of the butane/ yellow is different from the propane/patio bottle, the propane regulator is what comes with Weber bbqs

If you have a regulator from an old bbq just use that, or you can buy a new one

This is what I thought but he kept saying I need patio gas. So you’re sure I can switch the regulator from old bbq and I’m safe in terms of not melting the Weber? ðŸ˜³

Dizzyblonde · 05-04-2021 10:55pm

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I've merged your thread into the existing Gas BBQ thread jarvis.

The reason you need patio gas for a barbecue is because it burns at a much higher heat, which makes a huge difference. You won't sear food nearly as well with butane gas.

jarvis · 05-04-2021 11:38pm

Dizzyblonde wrote: »

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I've merged your thread into the existing Gas BBQ thread jarvis.

The reason you need patio gas for a barbecue is because it burns at a much higher heat, which makes a huge difference. You won't sear food nearly as well with butane gas.

Thanks for that.

Does anyone know can I bring my old yellow Calor gas cylinder (still half full) and use that return to buy a 6kg propane cylinder without having to pay the cylinder deposit? If this is ok, Do shop workers know it’s ok or might I face possible rejection?

wicklowwonder · 06-04-2021 12:07am

jarvis wrote: »

Thanks for that.

Does anyone know can I bring my old yellow Calor gas cylinder (still half full) and use that return to buy a 6kg propane cylinder without having to pay the cylinder deposit? If this is ok, Do shop workers know it’s ok or might I face possible rejection?

Depends where you go... I have noticed a petrol station for example usually just swap them out but a hardware store or garden centre know more about them and have rejected them in the past when swapping butane for patio.

jarvis · 06-04-2021 7:34am

jarvis wrote: »

Thanks for that.

Does anyone know can I bring my old yellow Calor gas cylinder (still half full) and use that return to buy a 6kg propane cylinder without having to pay the cylinder deposit? If this is ok, Do shop workers know it’s ok or might I face possible rejection?

Yeah but the FAQ on Calors website says they’re inter changeable

wicklowwonder · 06-04-2021 9:33am

jarvis wrote: »

Yeah but the FAQ on Calors website says they’re inter changeable

Perfect, then you have answered your own question surely? Probably best to check the FAQ before asking a forum for their experiences!

My suggestion is to show this to the shop assistant if they won’t change them.

Good to know.

Sixtoes · 06-04-2021 10:12am

jarvis wrote: »

Thanks for that.

Does anyone know can I bring my old yellow Calor gas cylinder (still half full) and use that return to buy a 6kg propane cylinder without having to pay the cylinder deposit? If this is ok, Do shop workers know it’s ok or might I face possible rejection?

B&Q Liffey Valley let me do this a few weeks ago with 11kg cylinder.

jarvis · 06-04-2021 10:19am

wicklowwonder wrote: »

Perfect, then you have answered your own question surely? Probably best to check the FAQ before asking a forum for their experiences!

My suggestion is to show this to the shop assistant if they won’t change them.

Good to know.

Yeah I had read the FAQ but like you said my question was more would I still face a problem. I’m being the FAQ just in case. Thanks.

Gloomtastic! · 06-04-2021 11:05am

Anyone seen lava rocks in North Dublin?

The Sparrow · 06-04-2021 1:16pm

kop-end wrote: »

Woodies are back doing the Weber Q2000 (no thermosat) for €299
I picked this up last year, love it, perfect for a family of 4

https://www.woodies.ie/weber-q-2000-grill-with-stand-gas-bbq-titanium-1101969

Have a look at the boxes if you are buying it in Woodies. They had the same deal last year but some of the boxes were actually Q2200s which do have the thermostat. I blagged one and was charged the same price of €299.

It’s a great gas bbq that I use as an extension of the kitchen for high temperature cooking of steaks and chops etc. I use mine at least 1-2 times a week throughout the year.

salmocab · 06-04-2021 8:45pm

Just on the gas bottles thing, do most shops allow you return a flo gas bottle and take a calor bottle or vice versa?
Think I’ve 2 old calor butane bottles and I’d like to get propane as I use propane on the bbq however the bottle I’m using is flo gas and the shop that’s around the corner does calor and I’d ideally like to just use what they stock.

thejaguar · 07-04-2021 9:27am

I've returned 2 or 3 bottles recently and changed them for different types (butane for propane, calor for flogas).

They were done at a couple of different places - smaller local shops.

Only way to find out is to go to the shop and ask. Or as in my case - I didn't ask - I just said I had an empty and handed it to them. Until I read this thread it never even occurred to me that they wouldn't accept an empty.

the beer revolu · 07-04-2021 11:27am

Last year, I had fierce trouble exchanging my yellow butane bottles for patio gas bottles.

I had two that I wanted to swap out.
First place reluctantly swapped one and said to come back in a couple of weeks for the other. When I returned, they wouldn't swap. Tried several places without lock until a rural garage obliged.

So, to cut a long story short - try many places until one agrees.

I don'tr think there's any problem swapping between brands.

salmocab · 07-04-2021 3:30pm

Cool thanks, I’ll dig out the butane bottles and try get one changed this week as I suspect my propane is probably getting a bit low now

L1011 · 10-04-2021 7:48pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

I don'tr think there's any problem swapping between brands.

There's an official agreement between the two big brands (Calor and Flo/Ergas) plus some (probably all, tbh) tiny regional operators to swap over empties that go back to the wrong brand.

Predecessor of the CCPC investigated for being a cartel but judged that it was actually pro-competition as it let you swap brands at zero extra cost.

Local to me, a cheap Flo dealer appeared so all my tanks that were Calor were swapped to Flogas; now they're closed down so they're nearly all swapped back to Calor again!

jarvis · 12-04-2021 6:45am

So I used my Weber for the first time yesterday. I used a grilling mat and it was excellent. Will be using one all the time from now on!!! Was also very surprised at how easy and quick the Weber was compared to my old charcoal bbq.

ctlsleh · 12-04-2021 12:23pm

jarvis wrote: »

So I used my Weber for the first time yesterday. I used a grilling mat and it was excellent. Will be using one all the time from now on!!! Was also very surprised at how easy and quick the Weber was compared to my old charcoal bbq.

whats the purpose of the grilling mat? first ive heard of them.

RedCardKid · 12-04-2021 6:57pm

ctlsleh wrote: »

whats the purpose of the grilling mat? first ive heard of them.

Basically a non stick mat. Great if you are sticking on smaller pieces such as prawns, veg etc., stops them falling through or sticking. Some hipsters use them to stop steaks from sticking or dirtying their bars....:D:D;);)

MayoForSam · 12-04-2021 7:18pm

RedCardKid wrote: »

Basically a non stick mat. Great if you are sticking on smaller pieces such as prawns, veg etc., stops them falling through or sticking. Some hipsters use them to stop steaks from sticking or dirtying their bars....:D:D;);)

I don't see the point of a grilling mat if you want to get nice seared stripes on your food from the hot grill. I do use a grill basket for vegetables though.

Oil your food to prevent sticking and use a good wire brush to clean off any residue afterwards from the bars.

RedCardKid · 12-04-2021 7:21pm

MayoForSam wrote: »

I don't see the point of a grilling mat if you want to get nice seared stripes on your food from the hot grill. I do use a grill basket for vegetables though.

Oil your food to prevent sticking and use a good wire brush to clean off any residue afterwards from the bars.

I am with you, like I said I would use it for skewers with smaller delicate items on them. Once or twice a year max.

If the bars are hot enough, the meat etc. oiled you will never have a problem.

cubatahavana · 12-04-2021 8:50pm

Got the Weber rotisserie for my generic grill. Will need to add a few holes to secure it in my grill, but looks very solid. I’ll report results later

cubatahavana · 12-04-2021 9:33pm

MayoForSam wrote: »

I don't see the point of a grilling mat if you want to get nice seared stripes on your food from the hot grill. I do use a grill basket for vegetables though.

Oil your food to prevent sticking and use a good wire brush to clean off any residue afterwards from the bars.

My grill has a cast iron plate on the fourth burner (most right). I use it ALL THE TIME for vegetables and shellfish. It’s amazing. I don’t need grill marks on the food, that’s being posh

That grill Matt could be a good alternative. I didn’t like the basket for the vegetables myself, I have one and have only used it twice

cubatahavana · 12-04-2021 10:49pm

cubatahavana wrote: »

Got the Weber rotisserie for my generic grill. Will need to add a few holes to secure it in my grill, but looks very solid. I’ll report results later

Here it is. Very good chicken. Took nearly 2 hours but it was awesome

cullenswood · 13-04-2021 11:18am

cubatahavana wrote: »

Here it is. Very good chicken. Took nearly 2 hours but it was awesome

What did you rub it with, and did you just put those spuds underneath the chicken to cook in the drippings??

jarvis · 13-04-2021 1:02pm

For those grill mat nay sayers you still get seared grill marks on your food as per photo. Also it keeps the juices around the meat during cooking rather than dripping away. It’s also a dream for cleaning and having no mess.

the beer revolu · 13-04-2021 1:09pm

jarvis wrote: »

For those grill mat nay sayers you still get seared grill marks on your food as per photo. Also it keeps the juices around the meat during cooking rather than dripping away. It’s also a dream for cleaning and having no mess.

But surely the whole point of grilling is that the fat and juices drip onto the hot coals/bars and vapourises giving that bbq flavour?

Surely using a grill mat would give the same results as a frying pan?

cubatahavana · 13-04-2021 1:42pm

cullenswood wrote: »

What did you rub it with, and did you just put those spuds underneath the chicken to cook in the drippings??

Rub was a mix of paprika, brown sugar, and cayenne. The potatoes were below it, yes, but I added too much beer in the pan and they sort of boiled. They’ll be better next time

cubatahavana · 13-04-2021 1:56pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

But surely the whole point of grilling is that the fat and juices drip onto the hot coals/bars and vapourises giving that bbq flavour?

Surely using a grill mat would give the same results as a frying pan?

I see what you mean here, I only use the grill plate when grilling small things that may fall down through the grates. Even if using the matt, it would allow to give some smokey flavour (if you add wood, that is)

DaveyDave · 13-04-2021 3:32pm

What's food like if you don't rub meat with anything? Still need to get a bottle of gas but will probably just use basic chicken fillets and burgers.

the beer revolu · 13-04-2021 3:48pm

DaveyDave wrote: »

What's food like if you don't rub meat with anything? Still need to get a bottle of gas but will probably just use basic chicken fillets and burgers.

Well, I'd add oil, salt and pepper.
Lovely just like that.

cubatahavana · 13-04-2021 3:53pm

DaveyDave wrote: »

What's food like if you don't rub meat with anything? Still need to get a bottle of gas but will probably just use basic chicken fillets and burgers.

For chicken thighs (much, much better than fillets): 7:2:2 rub (7 grams of coarse salt, 2 of crushed black pepper and 2 of garlic powder) takes 2 minutes to prepare (I do about 22 grams and it’s enough for 6-8 thighs)

cubatahavana · 13-04-2021 3:55pm

I’m ordering a suckling piglet (small). I’m planning to do it in my gas grill with the rotisserie attachment. I’ll keep you posted. Any tips?

the beer revolu · 13-04-2021 3:58pm

cubatahavana wrote: »

I’m ordering a suckling piglet (small). I’m planning to do it in my gas grill with the rotisserie attachment. I’ll keep you posted. Any tips?

Apart from, try not to overcook it, no.
Enjoy!

wicklowwonder · 13-04-2021 4:25pm

cubatahavana wrote: »

I’m ordering a suckling piglet (small). I’m planning to do it in my gas grill with the rotisserie attachment. I’ll keep you posted. Any tips?

Where are you ordering one? Would love to try one.

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