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Bike rack for 4 bikes

  • 05-04-2021 1:52pm
    #1
    Don Juan II
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭


    Looking for some opintions on bike racks

    At the moment, I have a thule roof rack with 4 bike holders. It works fine however my wife finds it hard to get the 2 centre bikes up and down.
    It is slow-ish to take on and off which we do a bit. We also have the constant fear of crashing into a low parking barrier when we forget the bike rack is on top.

    I was thinking about replacing it with a towbar bike rack holder.

    There are 2 types I was thinking of:
    https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/thule-9708-hangon-towbar-bike-rack-4-bike-/rp-prod165295
    and
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thule-VeloCompact-Carrier-TowBall-Tiltable/dp/B01ELC4K0S

    From the looks of them, they should be faster to take on and off. Also, the first would will be easier to get a bike or 2 on and off quickly.

    When loaded with 4 bikes, the second one looks much stronger and sturdier but is it worth the additional cost.

    Any advice, pros/cons etc appreciated.

    Right now, I'm leaning towards the first bike rack above.


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  • #2
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,107 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    just be aware of towbar weight limits and the nose weight of your car. I have a Halfords 4 bike rack, max total weight is 60kgs, so 4 road bikes is fine but 4 mountain bikes will get close to the limit. Thats also a lot of weight to be hanging off the back of a car, if the car itself isn't a decent size it could affect the steering, suspension etc. Your car manual will have guidance on this.

    it's also not that quick to load bikes on and off as you have to take care to avoid handlebars and pedals clashing and then make sure everything is strapped securely.


  • #3
    Don Juan II
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Don Juan II


    Thanks @loyatemu

    Good advice there. There will be 2 kids bike and 2 adults bikes so weight shouldn't be an issue.

    A lot of the time, it's only 1 or 2 bikes going with us for a journey.

    Also, I meant it's slow taking the roof rack on/off at the moment. Once the roof rack is on the car, getting bikes up or down is very quick!


  • #4
    EDit
    Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭EDit


    I have both types (the exact model hangon Thule rack and a Buzz Rack platform rack).

    The main reason we got the platform rack is that we found it very difficult to actually get 4 bikes on the hangon rack, even when it was 2 adult + 2 small kids bikes. It was possible but only if you didnt really care about scratches and scuffs, as the bikes would bang and rattle against each other. When the kids got older and it became 2 adult + 2 medium sized kids bikes, we could only manage to get 3 bikes on max. That said, we have kept the hangon rack to use on short trips where we are only taking 1 or 2 bikes as it is much easier to throw on the back of the car vs the platform rack.

    The platform rack takes longer to set up, but we’ve transported 4 adult “pride and joys” on several long cross-country journeys without any scratching or knocking against each other. We have this version... https://thebikerack.ie/products/buzz-rack-buzzquatro-4-platform-carrier


  • #5
    byrnem31
    Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭byrnem31


    https://www.halfords.ie/cycling/bike-racks/towbar-mounted-bike-racks/halfords-4-bike-towbar-mounted-bike-rack-548658.html

    I was using the Halfords 4 bike tow bar rack today. Got a towbar fitted by malcoms down in rathmines for €320. The rack is excellent and very sturdy. It has rubbers on the inner bars that protect the bikes from getting scratched. I thought I would be using extra bungee cords but I did not need them. Very secure straps and works perfectly at half the price of other well known brands.


  • #6
    cletus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭cletus


    Here's a second (or third or whatever) vote for the Halfords 4 bike rack. It does take a little bit of time, but it's been rock solid for me.

    I also have a single bike roof rack for when I'm only bringing my bike.

    As noted above, the car that's carrying them is relevant too. I'm driving an Avensis estate, so it's well within my payload, as such


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  • #7
    byrnem31
    Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭byrnem31


    cletus wrote: »
    Here's a second (or third or whatever) vote for the Halfords 4 bike rack. It does take a little bit of time, but it's been rock solid for me.

    I also have a single bike roof rack for when I'm only bringing my bike.

    As noted above, the car that's carrying them is relevant too. I'm driving an Avensis estate, so it's well within my payload, as such

    I have mine on a 2006 civic 1.8 hatch. The rack is almost the same size as the car.


  • #8
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Don Juan II wrote: »
    Thanks @loyatemu

    Good advice there. There will be 2 kids bike and 2 adults bikes so weight shouldn't be an issue.

    A lot of the time, it's only 1 or 2 bikes going with us for a journey.

    Also, I meant it's slow taking the roof rack on/off at the moment. Once the roof rack is on the car, getting bikes up or down is very quick!

    Why not leave it on?


  • #9
    Don Juan II
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Don Juan II


    grogi wrote: »
    Why not leave it on?

    It creates a lot of noise (and drag) when driving. It's quite annoying


  • #10
    Jonesy101
    Registered Users Posts: 190 ✭✭Jonesy101


    You could get a thule 3 bike towbar carrier with the additional extender for a 4th bike. Means that when you said youd be mostly using 2 bikes then its a little bit shorter, a 4 carrier would be that little bit extra longer behind the car.

    Does the halfords towbar carrier tip down when accessing the boot? If not id say thats a deal breaker.

    Putting bikes on the platform towbar or the hangbar both would take similar time with pedals and handlebars aligning and not scratching. Hang bar the bikes will sway and move around which wouldnt feel as solid or safe when turning or going over bumps and potholes. Does that thule hangbar have a tip over option for accessing the boot?

    That hangbar doesnt look to have a locking mech for the bikes, the velocompact does, I got the 3 bike version last year and its excellent. Youll need a towbar and the electrics for the lights and reverse light and another number plate. 3 bike velocompact was about 440 in thebikerack.ie in Cabinteely.

    Roof rack needs the bars and then 4 bike holders which are around 130 a piece which is a bit of a bummer. So yeah would create a lot of noise and drag , its not just the cross bars. Its also v hard to put on the middle 2 bikes in the center of the car, especially if its a SUV. And then there are a lot of people who crash the bikes going into a parking, or a motorway services, its pretty easy to forget if you have 2 kids going mental in the back of the car and a full car load and tired after a journey.

    You are also able to get bike racks on the biketowork scheme if you wanted to buy within the country.


  • #11
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,107 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Jonesy101 wrote: »

    Does the halfords towbar carrier tip down when accessing the boot? If not id say thats a deal breaker.

    the one I have doesn't tilt but you can open the boot once the bikes are off (you have to fold down the frame support nearest the boot but that takes 10 secs). We can access the boot by folding the back seats down anyway so it's not a big deal, but if you had child seats in the car that would be impractical.


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  • #12
    Scruff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭Scruff


    i'm between the Thule 9708 hangon and the halfords 4 bike platform myself...
    I think i'm leaning towards the platform but one of the review comments says it only supports smaller adult bikes. Mine is an XL frame with a wheelbase about 111cm. Anyone know if it fits alright?
    Also no problems going up down hills with it hitting the road?


  • #13
    cletus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭cletus


    Scruff wrote: »
    i'm between the Thule 9708 hangon and the halfords 4 bike platform myself...
    I think i'm leaning towards the platform but one of the review comments says it only supports smaller adult bikes. Mine is an XL frame with a wheelbase about 111cm. Anyone know if it fits alright?
    Also no problems going up down hills with it hitting the road?

    I have that rack, my bike is 57cm (don't know the wheelbase) and there's no issues with fit. I've had two adult and two kids bike on in on journeys from Kildare to Clare with zero issue re contact with the road, even over speed bumps


  • #14
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,107 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I have that rack as well - I've had the bottom of the towbar hit the road a couple of times over ramps, but never the rack itself.
    (it doesn't tilt, this isn't much of a problem for us as we can access the boot via the back seats, but if you have child seats in the car you might want to consider a tilting model)


  • #15
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    For anyone thinking Thule 9708, I had one offered to me earlier this week when looking for a 4 bike rack - however I'm looking for platform type. Check here if interested.

    The Halfords advanced rack tilts alright, but at a pretty premium to the non-tilting version. From having used a 3 bike towbar rack for years, tilting is a must for me.

    And lastly, I'm also on the lookout for a 4 bike towbar mounted rack and had been looking at the Peruzzo Pure Instinct at Micks Garage (seemingly aborted thread here!) so this thread is well timed...


  • #16
    dragratchet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭dragratchet


    Does anyone use platform racks to carry bikes with deep rims. My current race bike has 55mm rims and whilst i would like to use a platform rack to carry it to races etc, id be worried about wind resistance on the rims or the bike blowing clean off. would be sitting behind an SUV.


  • #17
    Ryath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭Ryath


    dragratchet wrote: »
    Does anyone use platform racks to carry bikes with deep rims. My current race bike has 55mm rims and whilst i would like to use a platform rack to carry it to races etc, id be worried about wind resistance on the rims or the bike blowing clean off. would be sitting behind an SUV.

    They aren't going anywhere on a platform rack. The wheels are strapped down too. The bike are well in the strip stream of the car too. I did a few hundred km in Spain with one of these signs held on with twist ties, It's slightly less aerodynamic than a set of deep sections and didn't go anywhere!

    11612697.jpg

    I have R-p-X8176983 two bike rack for when I'm just carrying one or two bikes. Takes seconds to put in and load. The kids bikes will fit in boot if we're not fully loaded.

    For the full holiday trips I have a Buzzrack Buzzwing 4 Have to say I've found it pretty good. Quick enough put on and load but it will take a bit of figuring out the first time especially with kids bikes as handlebars are at different heights and saddle get in the way. I just turn the bars on one bike and take the seats of the kids bikes.

    Discontinued now but replaced by the Eazzy 4 which seems to have fixed the main thing I don't like about the Buzzwing the the number plate board and lights are a little flimsy. Towbar clamp is tool-less now old one came with a spanner. Clamp still needs the key to open take it of so is still secure. I will say the clamps to fold the wheel platforms up are a little stiff. It does fold up into a pretty small footprint and is easy lift and carry as it has two handles for lifting.

    Sometimes wonder if the Thule would have been worth the extra money. Bit lighter with an led lightboard.
    Paid €360 for buzzwing in LBS. Could have got the Thule for about €500 online but LBS was well over €600
    mr spuckler wrote: »
    The Halfords advanced rack tilts alright, but at a pretty premium to the non-tilting version. From having used a 3 bike towbar rack for years, tilting is a must for me.

    And lastly, I'm also on the lookout for a 4 bike towbar mounted rack and had been looking at the Peruzzo Pure Instinct at Micks Garage (seemingly aborted thread here!) so this thread is well timed...

    Yea tilting is a must when you are full loaded. We're just beyond child seat stage so will be easier getting some bits through the back seats. New dog taking over half the boot means a roof box is the next requirement though!

    Not sure I like the look of the arms that clamp to the frames on that Peruzzo. Can imagine it being tricky to get them all lined up through all the bike frame.

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    552426.jpg


  • #18
    thomasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    I have this on the back of a Ford S Max


    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hollywood-Racks-F4-Heavy-Black/dp/B000QJ8C1Y/ref=asc_df_B000QJ8C1Y/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310135571037&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18248811009767951643&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20482&hvtargid=pla-450046578211&psc=1


    Takes 2 adult and 2 bikes for 11 and 13 year old comfortably. I think I would get a smaller 5th bike if needed

    Note: Googling Hollywood Racks separately may produce interesting results :)


  • #19
    byrnem31
    Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭byrnem31


    I can put my carbon giant defy advanced 2 2020 size m/l with hunt aero 33s worth 3 1/2 k on my rack with 2 kids bikes with not a worry in the world. Its very secure and has rubbers to protect the bike from getting scratched.


  • #20
    Lewotsil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Lewotsil


    Does 320 include the cost of towbar and multisocket ? Often wondered do cars have it pre wired or a port at rear of car for this ?
    byrnem31 wrote: »
    https://www.halfords.ie/cycling/bike-racks/towbar-mounted-bike-racks/halfords-4-bike-towbar-mounted-bike-rack-548658.html

    I was using the Halfords 4 bike tow bar rack today. Got a towbar fitted by malcoms down in rathmines for €320. The rack is excellent and very sturdy. It has rubbers on the inner bars that protect the bikes from getting scratched. I thought I would be using extra bungee cords but I did not need them. Very secure straps and works perfectly at half the price of other well known brands.


  • #21
    byrnem31
    Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭byrnem31


    Lewotsil wrote: »
    Does 320 include the cost of towbar and multisocket ? Often wondered do cars have it pre wired or a port at rear of car for this ?


    Yeah the multi socket I got too.


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  • #22
    uphillonly
    Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭uphillonly


    We've had this one for a few years. Carried 4 adult road bikes with no problem many times. It drops down allowing access to the boot with bikes still attached. Very handy on long trips with overnight stops or when you've just forgotten to pack something after fitting all the bikes.

    https://www.malcolms.ie/cycle-carriers/witter/zx704

    Malcolms (Dublin) installed towbar as well as selling the rack.


  • #23
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    uphillonly wrote: »
    We've had this one for a few years. Carried 4 adult road bikes with no problem many times. It drops down allowing access to the boot with bikes still attached. Very handy on long trips with overnight stops or when you've just forgotten to pack something after fitting all the bikes.

    https://www.malcolms.ie/cycle-carriers/witter/zx704

    Malcolms (Dublin) installed towbar as well as selling the rack.

    This looks like it's a rebranded Peruzzo (or Peruzzo rebranded the Witter). Either way the model name is the same and the pics are identical!

    Do you have any issues with being able to clamp all of the bikes, I wonder if you find what Ryath is saying above is an issue for you?
    Not sure I like the look of the arms that clamp to the frames on that Peruzzo. Can imagine it being tricky to get them all lined up through all the bike frame.


  • #24
    uphillonly
    Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭uphillonly


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    Do you have any issues with being able to clamp all of the bikes, I wonder if you find what Ryath is saying above is an issue for you?

    No, it's fairly straightforward. One long arm goes through three of the frames & there's a separate extender that you clamp between the 3rd & 4th bikes. You just have to remember to put the arm through the frames as you load them.

    I've had a mix of road, hybrids, kids bikes without any problems. I've never been concerned about carbon frames being clamped. This isn't a load bearing clamp as the bikes are sitting on the carrier with front & rear wheels strapped down. It's just stopping additional movement and them tipping off.


  • #25
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Thanks, on that basis I might give it a go so.


  • #26
    Mr. Cats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Mr. Cats


    Any love for 4 bikes on the roof? I’m using 4 Thule pro rides with 2 facing forward and 2 facing backward with good success so far. I put the 2 adult bikes in centre and kids bikes on outsides. Works well so far with no issues except loading and unloading the centre bikes needs some space and practice. I’m not driving an SUV though which might make things trickier.

    Total cost of racks and bars etc probably is similar to tow bar option if you don’t already have tow bar on car. One of the main reasons for me to go this direction though was it’s very easy to store all the bits when kit not in use but the tow bar platforms look huge to store (at home or at a hotel etc)


  • #27
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Mr. Cats wrote: »
    One of the main reasons for me to go this direction though was it’s very easy to store all the bits when kit not in use but the tow bar platforms look huge to store (at home or at a hotel etc)

    You can buy foldable 4 bike tow bar racks that tilt down.
    I have one. They are very handy as you can leave it on the car throughout the summer if you wish.

    The clamp arms simply fold down when not in use.

    To open the boot for shopping you then tilt it down. A handy option if you would be doing a lot of family trips throughout the summer months but don't want to be lifting a heavy platform on and off.

    https://www.altitude.ie/accessories/bike-storage-transport/buzz-rack-moose-4-bike-towbar__1291?currency=EUR&chosenAttribute=77-057&gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg-vKeKBzdN88ixAXvIpheM7RVvtKKc-BS610Eri1256pEuMfeAOGiBoCdrcQAvD_BwE#miv-1


  • #28
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    My reasons for tow bar fitting are that 1) I tend to have towbars anyway because I occasionally tow a trailer! 2) I have a roof box for holidays so roof space is limited (am currently trying to work out if kayak & roof box will fit side by side for holiday in June :D).

    Then when it comes to storage I just hang my current 3 bike rack on the wall of my garage where it takes up very little space. If I need to remove it from the car when on holidays etc it fits neatly in the boot.


  • #29
    Mr. Cats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Mr. Cats


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    Then when it comes to storage I just hang my current 3 bike rack on the wall of my garage where it takes up very little space. If I need to remove it from the car when on holidays etc it fits neatly in the boot.

    Is that just the ‘rack’ style ones though that fold up and not the platform type ones? I mean do the platform ones also fold up? ( sorry if it’s a stupid question, I’m guessing they don’t?)


  • #30
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Mr. Cats wrote: »
    Is that just the ‘rack’ style ones though that fold up and not the platform type ones? I mean do the platform ones also fold up? ( sorry if it’s a stupid question, I’m guessing they don’t?)

    Mine is a platform type - the support arms fold down when not in use. I'll be selling it here once my new rack arrives :)

    https://www.roofracks.co.uk/rideon-3/p/16


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  • #31
    Jonesy101
    Registered Users Posts: 190 ✭✭Jonesy101


    dragratchet wrote: »
    Does anyone use platform racks to carry bikes with deep rims. My current race bike has 55mm rims and whilst i would like to use a platform rack to carry it to races etc, id be worried about wind resistance on the rims or the bike blowing clean off. would be sitting behind an SUV.

    Interesting concern! The strap might not be long enough to go around the deep rims. Yes itd be safe but might need a different extra long strap. I have a 29in wheel mountain bike which has about 10inch longer wheelbase than any normal bike and struggled a bit initially with short straps, the platform rack isnt really designed for extra long bikes or fat tyres or extra deep rims.


  • #32
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    Thanks, on that basis I might give it a go so.

    Well my Peruzzo Pure Instinct rack which I ordered at 1 o'clock yesterday from Micks Garage arrived at 10 o'clock this morning. So top marks so far!

    I'll assemble later and will give some thoughts on it then for anyone that's interested.


  • #33
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Selling my 3 bike towbar mounted platform type rack here if anyone interested :)


  • #34
    Scruff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭Scruff


    uphillonly wrote: »
    We've had this one for a few years. Carried 4 adult road bikes with no problem many times. It drops down allowing access to the boot with bikes still attached. Very handy on long trips with overnight stops or when you've just forgotten to pack something after fitting all the bikes.

    https://www.malcolms.ie/cycle-carriers/witter/zx704

    Malcolms (Dublin) installed towbar as well as selling the rack.


    As mentioned already it looks like a Peruzzo rebrand. Do you use the boot strap when carrying 4 bikes? This is putting me off it at the moment, thought the whole point of a towbar carrier was it wouldn't be damaging your boot with straps!
    Other than that it looks great for the price and you can buy accessories and spares directly off Peruzzo, eg extensions for bigger bikes/wheels
    https://www.peruzzosrl.com/en-gb/spare-parts/

    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    You can buy foldable 4 bike tow bar racks that tilt down.
    I have one. They are very handy as you can leave it on the car throughout the summer if you wish.

    The clamp arms simply fold down when not in use.

    To open the boot for shopping you then tilt it down. A handy option if you would be doing a lot of family trips throughout the summer months but don't want to be lifting a heavy platform on and off.

    https://www.altitude.ie/accessories/bike-storage-transport/buzz-rack-moose-4-bike-towbar__1291?currency=EUR&chosenAttribute=77-057&gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg-vKeKBzdN88ixAXvIpheM7RVvtKKc-BS610Eri1256pEuMfeAOGiBoCdrcQAvD_BwE#miv-1


    This is the trade off of platform vs hang that is holding me back! might end up buying the two types altogether :rolleyes:


  • #35
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    Well my Peruzzo Pure Instinct rack which I ordered at 1 o'clock yesterday from Micks Garage arrived at 10 o'clock this morning. So top marks so far!

    I'll assemble later and will give some thoughts on it then for anyone that's interested.

    So largely positive although a couple of quirks to note!

    - The rack came largely pre-assembled, thankfully. So pretty much straight away I was able to mount it on the towbar. The mounting system is very straightforward also, a lever system with adjustable tension/tightness.
    - Both the wheel holders and the light board fold away when not in use so it's much narrower to store than my existing 3 bike Thule rack.
    - There's an extender included for one of the wheel arms, to cover very large bikes which is good. I'm 6' 2" so ride large bikes and mine are fine even without the extenders.
    - It includes an adaptor for the lights connector as the supplied connector is newer (maybe European standard type). Light board also seems to have a reverse light although I haven't tested this yet.
    - The main things which aren't pre-assembled are the arms for securing the bikes to the rack and the instructions for those are vague at best! Once I cleared my head a bit though I figured this out fairly quickly.
    - The tilt function seems really handy (lever at end of rack which you use your foot to control), although I'm hoping there's a knack to using it as it seems a little temperamental. This has probably been my biggest frustration so far.
    - It seems heavy at 20kg, though other 4 bike platform type racks seem to come in at a similar weight.

    I haven't actually driven with it yet but hope there won't be surprises when I do!


  • #36
    Scruff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭Scruff


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    I haven't actually driven with it yet but hope there won't be surprises when I do!

    So have you driven with it yet? :)


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  • #37
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Scruff wrote: »
    So have you driven with it yet? :)

    Ha no! Not expecting to have the bikes on the car until mid June maybe.


  • #38
    Keggers74
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Keggers74


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    You can buy foldable 4 bike tow bar racks that tilt down.
    I have one. They are very handy as you can leave it on the car throughout the summer if you wish.

    The clamp arms simply fold down when not in use.

    To open the boot for shopping you then tilt it down. A handy option if you would be doing a lot of family trips throughout the summer months but don't want to be lifting a heavy platform on and off.

    https://www.altitude.ie/accessories/bike-storage-transport/buzz-rack-moose-4-bike-towbar__1291?currency=EUR&chosenAttribute=77-057&gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg-vKeKBzdN88ixAXvIpheM7RVvtKKc-BS610Eri1256pEuMfeAOGiBoCdrcQAvD_BwE#miv-1


    Have been looking at this one. How have you managed with fitting four bikes on? We've three full size bikes and a 10 year old's bike, but wondering if they'll actually fit ok. And is the tilt function manageable with the bikes on?

    Did you look at the Buzz Rack Buffalo too? I would probably have gone for it, but seems to be sold out everywhere, but the Moose seems to offer most of the functionality anyway.


  • #39
    Don Juan II
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Don Juan II


    I originally created the thread here so wanted to get back with a quick update.

    I borrowed one of these from a friend:
    https://www.halfords.ie/cycling/bike-racks/towbar-mounted-bike-racks/halfords-4-bike-towbar-mounted-bike-rack-548658.html
    It was OK - it probably would be fine for the occasional use but our family brings our bikes pretty much everywhere.
    It was relatively easy to put on the tow bar, it needed a wrench however.

    I eneded up getting this (with the extension for the 4th bike)
    https://www.thule.com/en-gb/bike-rack/towbar-bike-racks/thule-velocompact-3-7-pin-_-927002
    Delighted with the purchase. No tools required to get it on the towbar and it's incredibly sturdy! Feels so much better on the car that the Halfords bike rack.


  • #40
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Keggers74 wrote: »
    Have been looking at this one. How have you managed with fitting four bikes on? We've three full size bikes and a 10 year old's bike, but wondering if they'll actually fit ok. And is the tilt function manageable with the bikes on?

    Did you look at the Buzz Rack Buffalo too? I would probably have gone for it, but seems to be sold out everywhere, but the Moose seems to offer most of the functionality anyway.

    I think I might actually have the Buffalo one.
    I am not sure what the difference is. There appears to be a pad on the Buffalo one which I have.
    Here is a video of it in action.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BI0xQ-9eHg


    The bit at 1.30 is a retractable cable that you pull out, wrap around the bikes and then lock it. It saves having to take an extra cable to lock the bikes.

    I didn't get the tail light board. It cost extra. I ended up getting a cheap tail light board at Halfords and they put on the reg plate for me. If I was buying again I would probably get their tail light board as it looks well and seems to fit on very quickly whereas I am using bungee chords to put on mine.

    Overall they are very convenient and the ability to tilt is so handy on a journey where you might need to pull out a bag or whatever from the boot.


  • #41
    Keggers74
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Keggers74


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    I think I might actually have the Buffalo one.
    I am not sure what the difference is. There appears to be a pad on the Buffalo one which I have.
    Here is a video of it in action.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BI0xQ-9eHg


    The bit at 1.30 is a retractable cable that you pull out, wrap around the bikes and then lock it. It saves having to take an extra cable to lock the bikes.

    I didn't get the tail light board. It cost extra. I ended up getting a cheap tail light board at Halfords and they put on the reg plate for me. If I was buying again I would probably get their tail light board as it looks well and seems to fit on very quickly whereas I am using bungee chords to put on mine.

    Overall they are very convenient and the ability to tilt is so handy on a journey where you might need to pull out a bag or whatever from the boot.


    Thanks Tigerandahalf. I think the locking cable is unique to the buffalo, so it does sound like that’s the one you have. Still interested in how you have found getting four bikes on, or if it is challenging to fit them, if you have tried this?


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  • #42
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    I wouldn't be putting four adult bikes on it so can't really tell you.

    I do notice in the video they didn't show him putting on the 2nd and 3rd bikes so maybe it is a squeeze.

    It should be fine though. You might need to reverse two of the bikes to help them fit together better.

    The bike holders on the arms can also be pushed in and out to suit. If you are concerned about scratching you can buy foam dividers to protect the bikes but they may take up extra space.


  • #43
    Keggers74
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Keggers74


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    I wouldn't be putting four adult bikes on it so can't really tell you.

    I do notice in the video they didn't show him putting on the 2nd and 3rd bikes so maybe it is a squeeze.

    It should be fine though. You might need to reverse two of the bikes to help them fit together better.

    The bike holders on the arms can also be pushed in and out to suit. If you are concerned about scratching you can buy foam dividers to protect the bikes but they may take up extra space.

    Thanks for that. Very helpful.


  • #44
    Scruff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭Scruff


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    So largely positive although a couple of quirks to note!

    - The rack came largely pre-assembled, thankfully. So pretty much straight away I was able to mount it on the towbar. The mounting system is very straightforward also, a lever system with adjustable tension/tightness.
    - Both the wheel holders and the light board fold away when not in use so it's much narrower to store than my existing 3 bike Thule rack.
    - There's an extender included for one of the wheel arms, to cover very large bikes which is good. I'm 6' 2" so ride large bikes and mine are fine even without the extenders.
    - It includes an adaptor for the lights connector as the supplied connector is newer (maybe European standard type). Light board also seems to have a reverse light although I haven't tested this yet.
    - The main things which aren't pre-assembled are the arms for securing the bikes to the rack and the instructions for those are vague at best! Once I cleared my head a bit though I figured this out fairly quickly.
    - The tilt function seems really handy (lever at end of rack which you use your foot to control), although I'm hoping there's a knack to using it as it seems a little temperamental. This has probably been my biggest frustration so far.
    - It seems heavy at 20kg, though other 4 bike platform type racks seem to come in at a similar weight.

    I haven't actually driven with it yet but hope there won't be surprises when I do!

    Went with the same. Was a bit nervous of whether it would be secure enough on the hitch, even after adjusting but it was fine on 1st trip at weekend. Takes quite a lot of force on my hitch to close when tightened enough to get rid of movement.
    Did use the straps to connect to boot.
    Tilt function works great. just enough room, an have to be careful of pedal positioning on 1st bike. Lift rack up slightly before pressing the release pedal to take the weight off the catch pins.
    I need the extenders for my bike so great they were included.


  • #45
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Scruff wrote: »
    Went with the same. Was a bit nervous of whether it would be secure enough on the hitch, even after adjusting but it was fine on 1st trip at weekend. Takes quite a lot of force on my hitch to close when tightened enough to get rid of movement.
    Did use the straps to connect to boot.
    Tilt function works great. just enough room, an have to be careful of pedal positioning on 1st bike. Lift rack up slightly before pressing the release pedal to take the weight off the catch pins.
    I need the extenders for my bike so great they were included.

    That's good to hear all round - I'll finally get to test mine in anger with a 4+ hour drive this weekend.


  • #46
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    So I drove Dublin to Kenmare return over the last week with the Peruzzo rack - I added an extra balance bike to the outside so made it into a 5 bike rack for it's first outing - as per the photo the car just wasn't loaded enough at that stage :pac:

    I tightened the tension on the lever to secure to the tow bar as there was a little bit of movement previously. Once that was done, as Scruff said, it requires a bit more strength to close the lever but is fine.

    I used the straps to hook it to the boot lid too and felt better for having them tbh. The rack is really heavy but once you get over that my main gripe is with the tilt mechanism which just doesn't seem to be working correctly for me, even when unloaded.

    Despite the roads being fairly crap in places there was no issue with movement of the bikes and everything was fully intact at both destinations! So in general I'm pretty happy with it, if I can sort the tilt function I'll be much happier.


  • #47
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Sorry for bumping this thread, but no point starting a new one after such a short period of time......

    But, all these racks appear to be towbar mounted. Has anyone gone with the non-towbar option or are they just rubbish? Would it be better off just having one installed and go from there? I presume there are places who would do both a rack and a tow-bar at the same time? How much are we talking for such a job, typically?

    Thanks in advance.



  • #48
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    And can I jump in here also as it concerns bike racks. I've a boot mounted bike rack saloon model. Can anyone recommend a secure way of locking the bike to the rack as I'll be travelling a fair bit by road and ferry. And could someone recommend a protective cover that won't end up ripping off or blowing onto other vehicles?

    Thanks.



  • #49
    larson12
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭larson12


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058175250/bike-rack-for-4-bikes

    I had researched these tilting tow ball mount bike racks and I have had past experience of going for a cheaper roof-mounted bike rack to which I regretted when whilst I was fiddling about fixing my bike in my bike rack my brother in law rocked up on his bike and loaded his bike up on to his roof into his Thule bike rack in no time leaving me some what vexed standing in the rain fighting with my cheaper option, at that I was a fan of Thule. My first and only use of my tow ball mount bike rack was from our home in Cumbria down to Poole in Dorset with a couple of night stops at hotels to which the tilt function came in very handy and the bikes and bike rack just sat there no problems, happy days and it all folds up into a nice little package so we could store it under a static caravan bed once at our holiday destination.



  • #50
    randombar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭randombar


    Heading to France on the Ferry on Saturday, all last minute here, 2 adult bikes, 2 child bikes. Looks like the halfords platform is winning out.

    Anyone have any issues with the length of it on the Ferry? Car is 4.4m and this is 0.9m so over the 5m length slightly.

    Need to get a bloody license plate too I guess.



  • #51
    ruffmut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭ruffmut


    I got this platform rack a few months ago and I am happy with it. I am carrying two adult and two junior size bikes on it.

    BuzzRack BuzzyBee 4 Bicycle Carrier for 4 Bicycles - Bikable



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