Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

MrMusician18 wrote:

The cynic in me thinks teachers want priority because they see international summer travel bring much freer for those vaccinated.

Teachers should not get priority. Leave them strike, it will save on the wage bill.

Imagine thinking that all teachers have secret meetings about summer travel during a pandemic.
As regards them being frontline workers, they never were up until this pandemic but they've been put in that position by the government.

MD1990 wrote: »

Teacher's striking in the middle of a pandemic to get the vaccine ahead of others more at risk due to age is a very bad look.

They will need to organise the strike very quickly before they go on their summer holliers.:rolleyes:

Turtwig wrote: »

Are the teachers actually threatening strike over this or is it just the media posing the question and the spokesperson being unable to rule out the possibility?

They are tabling motions for action at their annual conferences this week. So they are absolutely mobilizing for strike.

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MD1990 wrote: »

Teacher's striking in the middle of a pandemic to get the vaccine ahead of others more at risk due to age is a very bad look.

If I was a 28 year old teacher I would be absolutely mortified if I got the vaccine before own family members who are far more vulnerable and far more at risk .
It could down to that if teachers are prioritised .

eagle eye wrote: »

Imagine thinking that all teachers have secret meetings about summer travel during a pandemic.
As regards them being frontline workers, they never were up until this pandemic but they've been put in that position by the government.

Not meeting about it but given the way I know how these workplaces are, is incredibly naive to think that these discussions aren't happening.

appledrop wrote: »

And what about 2nd lockdown when teachers were in classroom teaching? Where they front line then in your eyes? No one remembers that of course, or the fact that after Easter will be back in classes with 25+ people with no masks in primary school.

But sure yeah all just stayed on couch on Zoom.

Unlike people actually working on the front line, there doesn't seem to be any data to show a greater rate of hospitalisation or deaths among teachers compared to the general public. Presumably if this data did exist the unions would be screaming it from the roof tops.

Based on the previous approach, were teachers even going to be vaccinated before they finished up for the summer? If not, then it doesn't matter as come September every adult should most likely have a vaccine anyways based on current projections. So they would be vaccinated by the time they are back after the summer.

I've 3 mates who are teachers and they didn't think they were to be done before finishing up. 1 is late 20s and 2 early 30s. Was talking to 2 this morning who are in the same kip of a school in Finglas. And both said there was no way they would get done ahead of their parents. Both are in ASTI and would usually waffle on about teacher this and teacher that. But neither seem to support being pushed ahead of older people who would be at higher risk. So wonder who is pushing this. Could be just unions trying to posture their importance rather than individual teachers pushing for it.

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Based on the previous approach, were teachers even going to be vaccinated before they finished up for the summer? If not, then it doesn't matter as come September every adult should most likely have a vaccine anyways based on current projections. So they would be vaccinated by the time they are back after the summer.

I've 3 mates who are teachers and they didn't think they were to be done before finishing up. 1 is late 20s and 2 early 30s. Was talking to 2 this morning who are in the same kip of a school in Finglas. And both said there was no way they would get done ahead of their parents. Both are in ASTI and would usually waffle on about teacher this and teacher that. But neither seem to support being pushed ahead of older people who would be at higher risk. So wonder who is pushing this. Could be just unions trying to posture their importance rather than individual teachers pushing for it.

We'll see how they vote in the motions this week at their conferences. Don't be surprised if a majority of teachers vote for industrial action.

Another doom merchant GP being quoted on RTÉ regarding variants

These people seem adamant in closing down and isolating our country for perpetuity

No basis for the hype other than hearsay and 5th hand anecdotes

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Not meeting about it but given the way I know how these workplaces are, is incredibly naive to think that these discussions aren't happening.

No different to any workplace, for goodness sake. Travel is not a priority for most teachers.

You seem to have a very fixed view of what the psyche of all teachers is.

ninebeanrows wrote: »

No basis for the hype other than hearsay and 5th hand anecdotes

A bit like this forum then

JP100 wrote: »

It's no coincidence in this thread that the very same posters who wanted schools to remain open at all costs and regularly shouted that teachers should be made to go in to schools and irrespective of case numbers - are also now the same posters who do not want school staff to retain the place they were originally given in the vaccine cohorts! Chip, shoulder and agenda are all words that spring to mind here!

What was the original place? Mid to end of May wasn't it?

I don't give a ****e what teachers do or don't do. But if any vaccine protection was only going to kick in when teachers were already finished for the summer, i.e. June. I don't see why at this stage they should be prioritized as a specific group which could result in a lot of younger teachers vaccinated before older people at more risk in society as a whole. The argument of being in front of 30 kids doesn't work when off for a few months and not in that environment. If it was July or August and teachers were heading back in a month or two, I'd agree with them prioritized. But it makes no sense based on the previous approach which has them vaccinated when the risk doesn't exist beyond the risk in the general community.

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

I don't give a ****e what teachers do or don't do.

Your illogical ranting suggests otherwise. It also doesn't account for the fact that at primary schools run until the end of June and that many teachers/ SNAs/ school staff also work in schools in July as well. Ultimately, if school staff were good enough to be where they were previously in the vaccine allocation well they're good enough to be still there.

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

Sky News

"COVID news – live: New UK variant detected as surge testing launched"

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-latest-uk-updates-people-urged-to-stick-to-lockdown-as-covid-infection-decline-slows-as-chancellor-faces-questions-over-budget-12235326


BBC

"What are the Brazil, South Africa and UK variants and will vaccines work?"

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55659820



Channel 4


"Six cases of Brazilian variant of Covid-19 found in the UK"


https://www.channel4.com/news/six-cases-of-brazilian-variant-of-covid-19-found-in-the-uk

What's your point? Those are a few random articles going back months. I don't hear Boris constantly going on about these variants or calling them a "new virus" etc.

One of those articles even plays down the UK variant as being 30% more transmissible.

The clowns here are still claiming there is a new virus 70% more transmissible.