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Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

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    #3542
    D'Agger
    Registered Users Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    John Kennedy started his son corner forward ahead of Jamie Doolan in 2006 which, I'm sure will surprise you all to learn, was not a good decision.

    Heard the u21 team in 2007 were training like a rugby union team in the depths of winter - peaked in challenge games and hit the championship completely flat. When you look at the Cork team that won that year, they'd have taken some beating in Munster. At least things were corrected in 2008.


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    #3543
    cms88
    Registered Users Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭cms88


    D'Agger wrote: »
    John Kennedy started his son corner forward ahead of Jamie Doolan in 2006 which, I'm sure will surprise you all to learn, was not a good decision.

    Heard the u21 team in 2007 were training like a rugby union team in the depths of winter - peaked in challenge games and hit the championship completely flat. When you look at the Cork team that won that year, they'd have taken some beating in Munster. At least things were corrected in 2008.

    I think his son was on the team for two years and then seemed to disappear after that.

    Did John Kennedy ever manage anyone again after he finished up with the U21s?


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    #3544
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    John is a decent bloke in fairness but was a very, very poor manager.

    He coached me with a Kerry underage team and it was roaring and shouting and banging tables- no game plan or instruction.

    We have had some horrendous underage coaches over the years


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    #3545
    Gael85
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭Gael85


    cms88 wrote: »
    I think his son was on the team for two years and then seemed to disappear after that.

    Did John Kennedy ever manage anyone again after he finished up with the U21s?

    John Kennedy managed Clare for a couple years. Think he trained Kilmurray Ibrickane in Clare for a summer or two.


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    #3546
    supernova5
    Registered Users Posts: 599 ✭✭✭supernova5


    news breaking of the AFL's Sidney Swans getting the precious signature of Sean O'Shea

    what a shocker, apparently talks have been going on quietly in the background over last few months and would seem as though Tadhg Kennelly strongly influenced his decision to switch codes

    bubbling under on twitter .....


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    #3547
    benji79
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    You’ll have to try harder than that today! ��


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    #3548
    cms88
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    Gael85 wrote: »
    John Kennedy managed Clare for a couple years. Think he trained Kilmurray Ibrickane in Clare for a summer or two.

    That was before he was with Kerry. I think he was manager when they won the Tommy Murphy Cup in 2004 or 05.


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    #3549
    DDC1990
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    Mark O'Connor had an excellent game again this morning for Geelong.

    He man marked Hawthorn's best player and still had the 4th most disposals on the pitch.

    Geelongs 2nd best player on the day.

    Obviously a massive loss to Kerry football but it's great seeing one of our own play such a huge role in a professional sport is heartening.

    Big crowd in the MCG even with some Covid restrictions.


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    #3550
    dobman88
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    I see the gooch is the latest to say his piece on the Dubs being caught training after Sean Kelly and Tomas O Se both commented on it.

    They would want to be very careful that Kerry aren't training or get caught because it will all come back to bite them if they do.


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    #3551
    mystic86
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    I see the gooch is the latest to say his piece on the Dubs being caught training after Sean Kelly and Tomas O Se both commented on it.

    They would want to be very careful that Kerry aren't training or get caught because it will all come back to bite them if they do.

    None of those 3 have anything to do with the current setup so I don't see your point at all... They can and presumably would criticise Kerry if the same thing transpired about them.


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    #3552
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    mystic86 wrote: »
    None of those 3 have anything to do with the current setup so I don't see your point at all... They can and presumably would criticise Kerry if the same thing transpired about them.

    All 3 being from Kerry and heavily involved in the county set up at some stage is the point. Them coming out and saying how bad the Dubs are will blow up on them if/when it comes out about Kerry training away. Just dont think its very clever is all.


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    #3553
    mystic86
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    All 3 being from Kerry and heavily involved in the county set up at some stage is the point. Them coming out and saying how bad the Dubs are will blow up on them if/when it comes out about Kerry training away. Just dont think its very clever is all.

    How would it blow up on them? They've nothing to do with the squad


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    #3554
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    mystic86 wrote: »
    How would it blow up on them? They've nothing to do with the squad

    Did I say they've anything to do with the squad? It will blow up on them cos they're from Kerry, saying how bad another county is to be training. I'm not sure what you're not understanding.


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    #3555
    mystic86
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Did I say they've anything to do with the squad? It will blow up on them cos they're from Kerry, saying how bad another county is to be training. I'm not sure what you're not understanding.

    Are you suggesting that someone from the same county can't criticise them, or haven't got the integrity to be consistent?


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    #3556
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    mystic86 wrote: »
    Are you suggesting that someone from the same county can't criticise them, or haven't got the integrity to be consistent?

    Nope. I'd expect them to be critical if Kerry are caught in a similar position. That doesnt stop it from blowing up on them though. Seems you're misinterpreting anything I say.


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    #3557
    mystic86
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Nope. I'd expect them to be critical if Kerry are caught in a similar position. That doesnt stop it from blowing up on them though. Seems you're misinterpreting anything I say.

    How would it blow up on them??

    I'm sure they will critise Kerry if they are found to be doing the same thing.

    You just keep saying 'blow up' with no explanation of how, what exactly do you think will happen.

    The only thing I can extrapolate from what you've said is if I assume you mean backfire, as in if they don't criticise Kerry the same way, and there's nothing to suggest they wouldn't do that. And if they do, there's no issue whatsoever! So where's the blow up


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    #3558
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    mystic86 wrote: »
    How would it blow up on them??

    I'm sure they will critise Kerry if they are found to be doing the same thing.

    You just keep saying 'blow up' with no explanation of how, what exactly do you think will happen.

    The only thing I can extrapolate from what you've said is if I assume you mean backfire, as in if they don't criticise Kerry the same way, and there's nothing to suggest they wouldn't do that. And if they do, there's no issue whatsoever! So where's the blow up

    I think you're making quite a big deal out of it tbf. I just don't think its wise or needed for them to be so critical is all.

    You seem to be angling for some kind of argument so I'm happy to leave it there.


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    #3559
    mystic86
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    dobman88 wrote: »
    I think you're making quite a big deal out of it tbf. I just don't think its wise or needed for them to be so critical is all.

    You seem to be angling for some kind of argument so I'm happy to leave it there.

    Ya, make a tabloidy baseless statement and then walk away when you can't explain how what you said makes any sense.

    Ps what do you think these analysts are going to write or talk about when there's nothing else going on.


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    #3560
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    mystic86 wrote: »
    Ya, make a tabloidy baseless statement and then walk away when you can't explain how what you said makes any sense.

    Ps what do you think these analysts are going to write or talk about when there's nothing else going on.

    :pac: you seem to be taking it far too seriously from some random comment on a website.

    If you need an explanation, I dont think it's a good idea for them to be so condemning of another county when it's possible Kerry could be caught in a similar position. Why bother? Just say nothing.

    When I say 'blow up', I mean the reaction they'll get on social media etc if Kerry do get caught out. Them being from kerry would make it worse for them after being so critical.

    I dont think Sean Kelly is an analyst, unless I missed him somewhere before. I just dont see the need for them commenting at all, especially seeing as Kerry players have been seen running together in Killarney so it may only be a matter of time before a training session is leaked.

    Now I hope that helps explaining it to you, I cant understand it for you also.


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    #3561
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,187 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    dobman88 wrote: »
    All 3 being from Kerry and heavily involved in the county set up at some stage is the point. Them coming out and saying how bad the Dubs are will blow up on them if/when it comes out about Kerry training away. Just dont think its very clever is all.

    Harder for other countries to do what Dublin did, I think there was only 7-8 players probably all from within 5 k of the training ground. For Kerry to get such a number or any other county you would need players to travel 20+ km. I doubt if this was once off. The ex Kerry players you speak about are now virtually sport journalists. They are paid to give opinions. The papers and meadows that pay them expect them to comment on things like that. If it happened with the Kerry set up they would have to comment as well and be critical of what happened.

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #3562
    mystic86
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    dobman88 wrote: »
    :pac: you seem to be taking it far too seriously from some random comment on a website.

    If you need an explanation, I dont think it's a good idea for them to be so condemning of another county when it's possible Kerry could be caught in a similar position. Why bother? Just say nothing.

    When I say 'blow up', I mean the reaction they'll get on social media etc if Kerry do get caught out. Them being from kerry would make it worse for them after being so critical.

    I dont think Sean Kelly is an analyst, unless I missed him somewhere before. I just dont see the need for them commenting at all, especially seeing as Kerry players have been seen running together in Killarney so it may only be a matter of time before a training session is leaked.

    Now I hope that helps explaining it to you, I cant understand it for you also.

    This is all predicated on the premise that those people wouldn't criticise Kerry if they are caught at the same thing, because if they do criticise them they wouldn't get any social media reaction to their perceived hypocrisy.

    And you've no basis on which to say they wouldn't equally criticise Kerry if the situation arose.


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    #3563
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Don’t condone it.........but it shows the hard work needs to be done to win all Ireland’s .


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    #3564
    dobman88
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    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    Harder for other countries to do what Dublin did, I think there was only 7-8 players probably all from within 5 k of the training ground. For Kerry to get such a number or any other county you would need players to travel 20+ km. I doubt if this was once off. The ex Kerry players you speak about are now virtually sport journalists. They are paid to give opinions. The papers and meadows that pay them expect them to comment on things like that. If it happened with the Kerry set up they would have to comment as well and be critical of what happened.

    I never said they wouldnt be critical tbf, that's another poster misinterpreting my words. I'd expect them to be critical. I take your point about them being journalists now, fair enough.


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    #3565
    mystic86
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    dobman88 wrote: »
    I never said they wouldnt be critical tbf, that's another poster misinterpreting my words. I'd expect them to be critical. I take your point about them being journalists now, fair enough.

    Such nonsense.. If they were critical about Kerry the same as they were about Dublin then what is the issue that will blow up??


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    #3566
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    mystic86 wrote: »
    Such nonsense.. If they were critical about Kerry the same as they were about Dublin then what is the issue that will blow up??

    I've already explained it to you. I can't understand it for you also.

    If you dont think it would blow up on them, even if they criticised them in the same way, I think you're very naive in thinking the way social media works.


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    #3567
    mystic86
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    dobman88 wrote: »
    I've already explained it to you. I can't understand it for you also.

    If you dont think it would blow up on them, even if they criticised them in the same way, I think you're very naive in thinking the way social media works.

    You've explained nothing, you're just trying to defend your original statement despite the fact you're talking nonsense.


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    #3568
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    mystic86 wrote: »
    You've explained nothing, you're just trying to defend your original statement despite the fact you're talking nonsense.

    Ok. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I don't see the point in going around in circles then.


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    #3569
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    dobman88 wrote: »
    :pac: you seem to be taking it far too seriously from some random comment on a website.

    If you need an explanation, I dont think it's a good idea for them to be so condemning of another county when it's possible Kerry could be caught in a similar position. Why bother? Just say nothing.

    When I say 'blow up', I mean the reaction they'll get on social media etc if Kerry do get caught out. Them being from kerry would make it worse for them after being so critical.

    I dont think Sean Kelly is an analyst, unless I missed him somewhere before. I just dont see the need for them commenting at all, especially seeing as Kerry players have been seen running together in Killarney so it may only be a matter of time before a training session is leaked.

    Now I hope that helps explaining it to you, I cant understand it for you also.

    You have made a complete clown of yourself here with your attempts up insinuate something that you have no idea of and now you’re trying to shift responsibility for your inability to make a coherent point onto other posters?

    Very odd behaviour mate.

    Is the approach here to try excuse Dublins behaviour by engaging in completely made up whataboutery?


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    #3570
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    You have made a complete clown of yourself here with your attempts up insinuate something that you have no idea of and now you’re trying to shift responsibility for your inability to make a coherent point onto other posters?

    Very odd behaviour mate.

    Is the approach here to try excuse Dublins behaviour by engaging in completely made up whataboutery?

    Do you think resorting to name calling makes your point coherent. That's quite ironic and doesn't even warrant a serious reply.


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    #3571
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    dobman88 wrote: »
    Do you think resorting to name calling makes your point coherent. That's quite ironic and doesn't even warrant a serious reply.

    As I said - avoiding explaining your attempt at a point.

    You made an utterly pointless insinuation in some vain attempt to shift the focus from Dublin- it failed as you had no point & nothing to back it up.

    The fact that you have spent over a page backtracking and trying to blame others for “taking it too seriously” is behaviour that needs to be called out for what it is.

    I wouldn’t take too much solace in the characters liking your ‘woe is me’ nonsense


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