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  • #6872
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    bazz26 wrote: »
    I don't think we will be seeing too many on these shores anyway. These are now 120k plus cars here before you even look at the options list.

    I think BMW make dealers order a certain number of high end cars like these every year so I’m guessing there will be a few in stock around in a short while.
    They are crazy money here though I agree.


  • #6873
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Yes and I'm sure Colm Quinn will find homes for them. I think I remember reading before that he sold more high end BMWs than any other dealer in the country.


  • #6874
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Yes and I'm sure Colm Quinn will find homes for them. I think I remember reading before that he sold more high end BMWs than any other dealer in the country.

    Yes it’s remarkable. Colm Quinn are only in business about ten years I think yet have managed to grow hugely and outsell other dealers.
    I bought my current car there and they were pretty good but negotiating was a bit bizarre.


  • #6875
    hooch-85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    Yes it’s remarkable. Colm Quinn are only in business about ten years I think yet have managed to grow hugely and outsell other dealers.
    I bought my current car there and they were pretty good but negotiating was a bit bizarre.

    I've heard you'd need to be pretty thick skinned to work for him.


  • #6876
    MetzgerMeister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,920 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Yeah they opened the Athlone depot in 2008.

    It's one of the nicer BMW showrooms I've been in. Staff are very friendly and they make sure you take the free coffee and grub when you're there :D


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  • #6877
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    I've heard you'd need to be pretty thick skinned to work for him.

    Yes. I imagine beneath the veneer of friendly chat, coffee customer service etc. It’s dog eat dog and survival of the fittest in there for the workforce.


  • #6878
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    I've heard you'd need to be pretty thick skinned to work for him.

    No personal experience of dealing with them but I heard nearly every negotiation has to be approved by the boss himself too.


  • #6879
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    bazz26 wrote: »
    No personal experience of dealing with them but I heard nearly every negotiation has to be approved by the boss himself too.

    That is true. When I bought the 535d from them a few years back I was dealing with a salesman, who then had to report to the head sales guy who then cleared everything with colm. A very odd experience of sitting in an office with two sales reps and colm lingering outside. And I've heard he is a tough cookie to work for too, and not in a nice way at all.

    But the staff have always been sound and great to deal with.


  • #6880
    MarkN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭MarkN


    I sent them a mail before asking were they in the business of selling cars or what when I couldn't get a reply while trying to buy a 640d. I got a phone call from the main man himself after that. :D


  • #6881
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    I'd say someone got the sack that day :D


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  • #6882
    MarkN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭MarkN


    I don't think so at all, backed the employee all the way over the phone. Perhaps a telling off happened privately but I got the impression they were just so busy it didn't matter much.


  • #6883
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Wailin wrote: »
    That is true. When I bought the 535d from them a few years back I was dealing with a salesman, who then had to report to the head sales guy who then cleared everything with colm. A very odd experience of sitting in an office with two sales reps and colm lingering outside. And I've heard he is a tough cookie to work for too, and not in a nice way at all.

    But the staff have always been sound and great to deal with.

    Had a very similar experience. Spent a couple of hours with sales guy but when negotiating, brought into a room with sales guy opposite me and then manager sat between us with his laptop which neither I or sales man could see. Manager made the running up to a point but when it came to the crunch he had to go to Colm who I could see in the office opposite to get the go ahead. Thinking back it was slightly unnerving as it was one against three but I got what I wanted in the end so all was well.


  • #6884
    Casati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Casati


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    Had a very similar experience. Spent a couple of hours with sales guy but when negotiating, brought into a room with sales guy opposite me and then manager sat between us with his laptop which neither I or sales man could see. Manager made the running up to a point but when it came to the crunch he had to go to Colm who I could see in the office opposite to get the go ahead. Thinking back it was slightly unnerving as it was one against three but I got what I wanted in the end so all was well.

    Its one of the oldest car sales tactics in the book - walking out to talk to the boss makes the buyer feel special and that they are doing everything possible to get the best deal for you etc. Hence the many glass walls you see in garages. Its highly likely that the junior sales guy knows the bottom line and Colm in this case isn't actually adding anything to the conversation, but the buyer seeing him makes them feel special etc.

    I had the opposite experience buying a new Skoda- was dealing with the garage owner, but when it came to pushing him on price, he left the room as he said he need to talk to the expert and I could see him went out to chat with his junior sales exec - another tactic designed to confuse!


  • #6885
    v0ldeMort
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭v0ldeMort


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    Had a very similar experience. Spent a couple of hours with sales guy but when negotiating, brought into a room with sales guy opposite me and then manager sat between us with his laptop which neither I or sales man could see. Manager made the running up to a point but when it came to the crunch he had to go to Colm who I could see in the office opposite to get the go ahead. Thinking back it was slightly unnerving as it was one against three but I got what I wanted in the end so all was well.

    Does that kind of hardball negotiation apply in the Colm Quinn superstore do you know, hardly I think as they are not selling the high-end cars there. But trying to negotiate at the mo and not getting v far - was offered v little for my trade in. Obviously in these times it is not face to face so it is harder to judge.


  • #6886
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/4-series/fpa/202103230484402?journey=Search

    Look what's back again. I can't remember for sure but has it gone up in price a couple of grand?


  • #6887
    maddness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭maddness


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/4-series/fpa/202103230484402?journey=Search

    Look what's back again. I can't remember for sure but has it gone up in price a couple of grand?

    I think you’re right and that was for sale for about 40 grand recently.
    45 is too high


  • #6888
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Yep, it was 42k when I posted it back in early February:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116194913&postcount=6569

    Now seems to be back at near the price is advertised last year down in Waterford. Seems to be moving around like Covid.

    Edit: Motor tax website says ownership hasn't changed in the last 3 months so I wonder was it being used by a member of staff?


  • #6889
    Casati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Casati


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Yep, it was 42k when I posted it back in early February:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116194913&postcount=6569

    Now seems to be back at near the price is advertised last year down in Waterford. Seems to be moving around like Covid.

    Edit: Motor tax website says ownership hasn't changed in the last 3 months so I wonder was it being used by a member of staff?

    I know that a car like that is dearer to import now, but that fact doesn't mean that the prospective buyers can immediately fork out another few grand.


  • #6890
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    Had a very similar experience. Spent a couple of hours with sales guy but when negotiating, brought into a room with sales guy opposite me and then manager sat between us with his laptop which neither I or sales man could see. Manager made the running up to a point but when it came to the crunch he had to go to Colm who I could see in the office opposite to get the go ahead. Thinking back it was slightly unnerving as it was one against three but I got what I wanted in the end so all was well.

    That sales technique is a load of crap.
    Wouldnt deal with that at all.
    Got enough of bmw galway when they sat me down to look at figures on a demo 330e a few years back that had 11k off as advertised even though it was actually more than the new price after grants.


  • #6891
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,089 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If they have what you want and the price is right sometimes it's worth putting up with their nuances though.


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  • #6892
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Augeo wrote: »
    If they have what you want and the price is right sometimes it's worth putting up with their nuances though.

    Yeah. At the end of the day I enjoy a bit of haggling and knowing you can always just walk away if not happy.


  • #6893
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    v0ldeMort wrote: »
    Does that kind of hardball negotiation apply in the Colm Quinn superstore do you know, hardly I think as they are not selling the high-end cars there. But trying to negotiate at the mo and not getting v far - was offered v little for my trade in. Obviously in these times it is not face to face so it is harder to judge.

    It seems to be a sellers market at the moment due to demand outstripping supply. I would recommend trying other dealers to give you a realistic idea of what your car is worth to the trade.


  • #6894
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Picked up my 330e yesterday.
    Very happy so far. It’s a huge step up from the f30 series model I had before. Quality, fit and finish are comparable to the five in most areas and way better than previously.
    Performance and handling really are excellent and the ride on the adaptive suspension is much more comfortable than I expected. In normal mode It’s impossible to tell a lot of time if you’re running on electric or petrol power. Sport mode turns it into a very very fast car but it’s quick enough in normal driving. It feels much more like a sports car than the five series which handled well for its size but was a bit of a boat compared to this car.
    Interior is obviously less plush than the five but not enough to bother me. The harman kardon sound system doesn’t sound as good as the five series but I’m hoping it just needs to bed in and I’m just accustomed to the old audio sounds.

    I have a feeling it’s going to be very cheap to run and a bit of fun when required too.


  • #6895
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    Picked up my 330e yesterday.
    Very happy so far. It’s a huge step up from the f30 series model I had before. Quality, fit and finish are comparable to the five in most areas and way better than previously.
    Performance and handling really are excellent and the ride on the adaptive suspension is much more comfortable than I expected. In normal mode It’s impossible to tell a lot of time if you’re running on electric or petrol power. Sport mode turns it into a very very fast car but it’s quick enough in normal driving. It feels much more like a sports car than the five series which handled well for its size but was a bit of a boat compared to this car.
    Interior is obviously less plush than the five but not enough to bother me. The harman kardon sound system doesn’t sound as good as the five series but I’m hoping it just needs to bed in and I’m just accustomed to the old audio sounds.

    I have a feeling it’s going to be very cheap to run and a bit of fun when required too.

    Lovely car.
    Im not a fan of estate cars usually but that looks great.
    What size are those wheels?


  • #6896
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Woah that looks great in that colour spec! When you said you were going for black I thought no don't do it! But that looks smashing!


  • #6897
    kirving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭kirving


    Looks absolutely great, enjoy it!

    The G20 is a real step up in interior quality from the F30.

    Got to see G20 when it was unveiled in Paris in 2018. Myself and my colleagues were so impressed by it, that we went back three times to take a proper look.


  • #6898
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    mickdw wrote: »
    Lovely car.
    Im not a fan of estate cars usually but that looks great.
    What size are those wheels?

    They’re 19” alloys. They’re the standard alloy with the m sport pro pack. Pack also gives you adaptive suspension so ride is not harsh at all.


  • #6899
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Wailin wrote: »
    Woah that looks great in that colour spec! When you said you were going for black I thought no don't do it! But that looks smashing!

    Colour choice isn’t great on the m sport. Black, white, mineral grey or portimao blue.
    Will be constantly cleaning it though. Black always high maintenance to keep looking well.


  • #6900
    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,714 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    Colour choice isn’t great on the m sport. Black, white, mineral grey or portimao blue.
    Will be constantly cleaning it though. Black always high maintenance to keep looking well.

    Tell me about it.
    2 black cars, at least hers isn't moving much with lockdown.
    Mines a black estate, the back is a disaster to keep clean.

    That said looks class when clean


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  • #6901
    digiman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭digiman


    Red break callipers really make it I think. Didn’t know they were an option, did you consider an xdrive one?

    Beautiful car, well wear and safe motoring


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