Derek Chauvin murder trial (George Floyd)

Reckon DC will get off.

Defense playing a blinder with casting reasonable doubt.

If any jurors think the fentanyl played a part , then DC will walk and Minneapolis will burn

MrStuffins wrote: »

I think it is.

You're trying to attribute blame to Mr Floyd, drawing a line between his resisting arrest and his killing at the hands of Mr Chauvin.

It's the same thought process as "But was she wearing a short skirt? Was she drunk?". It doesn't matter. One does not excuse the other!

Why can you not answer? You did not answer the clear and specific question I asked.

I think most people can answer yes here. That he did escalate the situation by his actions and resisting arrest.

I answer yes, and I still think Chauvin went OTT in his actions..and that this contributed to Floyd’s death.

Balance...

You are coming across just anti police full stop. Not willing to even assess anything that went on during the situation.

It’s straight to Chauvin the killer/murder with you..

Saying yes to Floyd escalating the situation doesn’t mean that anyone is absolving Chauvin here. You do realize this?

MrStuffins wrote: »

Answered already.



Mr Floyd's death was rued to be homicide. He would not have died had he not have met Mr Chauvin that day.



Mr Floyd's death was rued to be homicide. He would not have died had he not have met Mr Chauvin that day.



Mr Chauvin kneeled on Mr Floyd's neck, causing his death.

Good job at ignoring the questions.

Toxic levels of fentanyl in his body at the time of debt.

Complained of being short of breath and can’t breathe even when in the back of the police car, likely due to respiratory depression from the above substance.

Defence playing a blinder.

But keep drinking the cool aid

walshb wrote: »

Why can you not answer? You did not answer the clear and specific question I asked.

I answered you

I answer yes, and I still think Chauvin went OTT in his actions..and that this contributed to Floyd’s death.

So you agree that Mr Chauvin killed Mr Floyd. We agree here.

You are coming across just anti police full stop. Not willing to even assess anything that went on during the situation.

Again, if you wish to point out where I've been anti-police then I'm happy to discuss. I asked you already and you couldn't come up with anything. If you do,let me know

It’s straight to Chauvin the killer/murder with you.

That's because Mr Chauvin killed him. I've seen the video and the autopsies.

Here's a question for you:

Do you think that if Mr Floyd had never met Mr Chauvin that he would have died that day?

Biker79 wrote: »

@ MrStuffins - your habit of using the ' Mr ' prefix with their names is very odd.

Are you sure you have the ability to discuss this topic? You seem a bit all over the place.

Yes, I am sure.

MrStuffins wrote: »

Here's a question for you:

Do you think that if Mr Floyd had never met Mr Chauvin that he would have died that day?

who knows?....unless you might have an opinion on that? hmm what do you think?

walshb wrote: »

I suppose it’s simple statistics. 50/50. He lives or he dies!

At that point, George Floyd had been.alive for 17,025 days.

According to you, he had a 50/50 chance of living or dying on any given day.

He managed to win that coin flip 17,025 times in a row.

A man like that should've been playing the lottery every week!

Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication & recent methamphetamine use might have tilted the odds slightly more towards death.

walshb wrote: »

Chances winning the lottery is 50:50

............ wow!

MrStuffins wrote: »

And he was killed by the arresting officer, during the arrest.

You need to wait for the verdict.

MrStuffins wrote: »

............ wow!

Yeh yeh..

We all know it’s 1 in several tens of millions..1/139 million they say!! Or thereabouts. One line. 5 and 2 lucky stars.

Anyway, you win it or you don’t...hence my 50/50..

It’s clear you have no desire to discuss this topic without deflection ..

Still refusing to answer a simple and clear question..and it only paints your view as being hellbent on the cops being the baddies!

Just a question ...why didn't the paramedic (not sure if it was the first/second witness) ask the officer (chauvan) to remove his knee from floyd's neck when he went to check his pulse? it seems a reasonable thing to for them to ask... I thought they only said they asked the officers to move when they were going to put floyd into the ambulance and said the officer/s helped....

Biker79 wrote: »

MrStuffins, if you represented the prosecution, the judge would have thrown out the case pages ago.

He would have then shook his head and questioned your professional credentials.

Judge: "What are the chances of winning the lottery?"

Defence lawyer: "50/50 your honour"

Mr.Chauvin: "Jaysus, I wonder what my cellmate will be like?"

:pac:

walshb wrote: »

Only two numbers in that lottery you speak of...

Nope

MrStuffins wrote: »

He managed to win that coin flip 17,025 times in a row.

A man like that should've been playing the lottery every week!

Defence lawyer: "Your honour, I call for a bad... court.... thingy" :pac: :pac:

he actually had 11 ng/ml of fentanyl and 19 ng/ml of methamphetamine in his bloodstream postmortem. The US media are reporting these significant findings as simply "traces" of fentanyl in the bloodstream. That's literally a lethal amount of fentanyl without even factoring in the meth.