Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings

Bit cynical · 30-03-2021 10:35PM

normanoffside wrote: »

What's it got to do with the pub?
Most are drinking carry outs by the look of it.

This is a very safe gathering.
Even when they were drinking takeaway pints in October/November the cases were not rising. Outdoor transmission is not a thing. When there aren't videos of outdoor gatherings you can be damn sure it's because they are indoors and in private.

It's people enjoying themselves though. Can't have that.

30-03-2021 10:35PM

Carefree88 wrote: »

Now and the future

But if it becomes endemic and a mild virus would they still wear a mask?

dublinbando · 30-03-2021 10:37PM

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40253372.html

I think the peoples freedom is a little bit more important than how easy your job is Garda

30-03-2021 10:39PM

Carefree88 wrote: »

That was before Covid, now you can't even get in the door

I think they’ll go back to seeing most people maskless in the medium-term future, particularly for younger patients. They will have seen much more numerous cases of flu debilitating and killing people under 45 than Covid, so they’ll likely have a better grasp of the relative risks than your average Joe who’s been absorbing propaganda for the last year.

_Kaiser_ · 30-03-2021 10:40PM

dublinbando wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40253372.html

I think the peoples freedom is a little bit more important than how easy your job is Garda

I think it was her I heard on Pat Kenny this morning. Just seemed to want to complain about AGS's place on the vaccination rollout more than anything else.

30-03-2021 10:40PM

dublinbando wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40253372.html

I think the peoples freedom is a little bit more important than how easy your job is Garda

It’ll make “policing the pandemic” all but impossible.

And good ****ing riddance.

AlekSmart · 30-03-2021 10:43PM

JRant wrote: »

If it's level 4 then the passport office should be open. Will wait for next week to see. Although knowing the backlog that's built up I'd imagine it will be months before I can get a renewed passport for myself and the kids.

On that topic,do you accept that this Closure & Suspension of the Passport Service is,in fact due to Covid ?

Bit cynical · 30-03-2021 10:43PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

The only way out is severe lock down and vaccines...we had no vaccine when we locked down first....for which we will need vaccine passports most likely....and we may vaccinate kids like they are suggesting in other countries.

For the moment vaccines are one of the key ways out. As the vaccination programme continues that will change and the message will be that vaccines are not a panacea, cure-all, magic bullet etc.

30-03-2021 10:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think they’ll go back to seeing most people maskless in the medium-term future, particularly for younger patients. They will have seen much more numerous cases of flu debilitating and killing people under 45 than Covid, so they’ll likely have a better grasp of the relative risks than your average Joe who’s been absorbing propaganda for the last year.

Seeing a GP in a mask might make a person feel even worse. People shouldn't underestimate the power of a friendly smile to make a person feel better. Particularly someone who's feeling anxious. Seeing the GP in one of those things might make the person feel more anxious.

Multipass · 30-03-2021 10:44PM

“Policing in Covid is becoming more difficult, more challenging, more dangerous.”

More dangerous? Of all the dangers faced by the guards, they’re worried about standing around at checkpoints?

Sharpyshoot · 30-03-2021 10:46PM

Today was a big fail by the government. Nphet are too focused on their tunnel vision €.

_Kaiser_ · 30-03-2021 10:46PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It’ll make “policing the pandemic” all but impossible.

And good ****ing riddance.

Friend of mine said there was a big gang of feral kids running around the IFSC getting chased by Gardai and having a great time today.

Maybe if AGS weren't out delaying everyone on the motorways they could do something far more useful.

Deusexmachina · 30-03-2021 10:49PM

The sad truth (which I try to hide from myself) is that the majority still back NPHET and the Government.
We are a stupid nation in many ways.

AlekSmart · 30-03-2021 10:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It’ll make “policing the pandemic” all but impossible.

And good ****ing riddance.

The level of Policing required to ensure compliance,is an accurate measure of just how irrelevant this stuff has become.

The essence of the Gardai's "contract" with the Irish People is being very steadily and rapidly rewritten.

Micheal McDowell touched on this at the McGill Summer School sometime back,pointing out that WE need to make our minds up about the type of Police Force we actually want.

Drew Harris may well have a somewhat different perspective on this,than a graduate of Templemore for example.

It's now progressing to instilling and maintaining fear on the widest scale possible,and the Gardaí have their role to play too.

Resistance is futile,You will be assimilated...we are Borg !!! :eek:

_Kaiser_ · 30-03-2021 10:53PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

The sad truth (which I try to hide from myself) is that the majority still back NPHET and the Government.
We are a stupid nation in many ways.

A lot of it is down to the Irish inferiority/insecurity complex.

Too many spend their lives trying to keep up with their neighbours, or bothering themselves about what they are getting or getting away with that they aren't.

It's why the "cute hoor" is still admired and why we keep voting for the same politicians no matter what they do - because deep down a lot quietly admit they'd do the same things if they had the balls/opportunity.

This is why you get people ringing radio stations complaining about people meeting or breaking the rules.. Because they can't stand seeing others take the chances they are too afraid to.

RobitTV · 30-03-2021 10:55PM

https://twitter.com/daveirl/status/1377006210101227526

AlekSmart · 30-03-2021 10:59PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

The sad truth (which I try to hide from myself) is that the majority still back NPHET and the Government.
We are a stupid nation in many ways.

It's not about "backing" NPHET.

The true sadness is that,collectively,we have had all traces of Confidence and positivity wrung out of us in a calculated and progressive manner since last May,when the initial tentative steps towards impositions were found to actually work.

It is highly likely that Ireland and it's people going forward from Covid 21,will never see the levels of basic freedoms enjoyed by our generation up to this.

Take heed of the members of NPHET,and pay close attention to their career paths subsequent to this "Emergency"....fifedoms are being constructed,new pathways laid,none of which will involve too much Public Service.

If you're a TLDR person,just follow the Money !!!

RobitTV · 30-03-2021 11:03PM

The Gardai up at the airport must be as bored as hell, after all of these months standing up there. Waiting for all of the ghost passengers and holidaymakers.

JRant · 30-03-2021 11:16PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

On that topic,do you accept that this Closure & Suspension of the Passport Service is,in fact due to Covid ?

Of course not. It was a sneaky way for the government to restrict people further. There is no good reason why the passport office can't be processing applications.

30-03-2021 11:21PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

A lot of it is down to the Irish inferiority/insecurity complex.

Too many spend their lives trying to keep up with their neighbours, or bothering themselves about what they are getting or getting away with that they aren't.

It's why the "cute hoor" is still admired and why we keep voting for the same politicians no matter what they do - because deep down a lot quietly admit they'd do the same things if they had the balls/opportunity.

This is why you get people ringing radio stations complaining about people meeting or breaking the rules.. Because they can't stand seeing others take the chances they are too afraid to.

+1

The self-loathing "it's a disgrace Joe" cohort, some of whom frequent boards on a regular basis under numerous guises. Sock puppets of the world unite, issuing fictional reports to the Guards and generally whining about those who have the stones to embrace life to the fullest.

Heckler · 30-03-2021 11:28PM

7 in hospital in Cork with covid. Out of nearly half a million. 7. And still at level 5. Disgraceful.

Sharpyshoot · 30-03-2021 11:29PM

Heckler wrote: »

7 in hospital in Cork with covid. Out of nearly half a million. 7. And still at level 5. Disgraceful.

And how many need hospital with cancer etc, this is wreckless carry on.

30-03-2021 11:31PM

Probably makes more sense to just focus on vaccination for the 25-45 year old group at this stage. With a proper focus on the 34 year olds. They're the ones spreading it. Damn medians.

30-03-2021 11:34PM

Heckler wrote: »

7 in hospital in Cork with covid. Out of nearly half a million. 7. And still at level 5. Disgraceful.

This is why a federal system of government is a good system. If Cork had a governor they could make their own decisions.

30-03-2021 11:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Probably makes more sense to just focus on vaccination for the 25-45 year old group at this stage. With a proper focus on the 34 year olds. They're the ones spreading it. Damn medians.

Respectfully, that makes zero sense. Prioritise the vaccination of most vulnerable in society as soon as possible, so that the rest of us at minimal risk (including those in 25-45 age bracket) can get on with our lives without further delay.

manofwisdom · 30-03-2021 11:40PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

On the variants obsession: https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1375200672182853632

Some useful reading for the poster Cosmo Kramer.

30-03-2021 11:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Respectfully, that makes zero sense. Prioritise the vaccination of most vulnerable in society as soon as possible, so that the rest of us at minimal risk (including those in 25-45 age bracket) can get on with our lives without further delay.

It was half in jest, but that's the age group that popping up in all the cases.

30-03-2021 11:49PM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Some useful reading for the poster Cosmo Kramer.

It's such a pity that there isn't something similar to the Russian avos' in the West. There kind of is in Scandinavian countries where people appear to be a lot more relaxed and less prone to hysteria. We can see that in the approach adopted in Scandinavian countries.

This is what an American gentleman wrote about Russia when he went there to escape the hysteria in the US:

"The casual, often fatalist approach to COVID-19 here is a world away from its treatment in the West, where people spend their days fearful that they could die today, tomorrow, or next week."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/russia-has-its-own-very-russian-way-of-dealing-with-covid/

Gael23 · 31-03-2021 12:01AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Depends on the hospital, no visitors are allowed for inpatientsi. Waterford hospital fathers are allowed in for pushing sp in CUMH.

Unless your baby has the misfortune of ending up in the neonatal unit, in which case, the mam and dad are both allowed to visit the baby separately (but not together).

In Waterford hospital fathers are allowed in when the woman is pushing and allowed to stay fro an hour after the baby is born. That’s it until discharge

Get Real · 31-03-2021 12:18AM

Multipass wrote: »

“Policing in Covid is becoming more difficult, more challenging, more dangerous.”

More dangerous? Of all the dangers faced by the guards, they’re worried about standing around at checkpoints?

No, it means the usual policing duties that always existed have become more dangerous.

Arresting an aggressive person with multiple convictions who doesn't give a fck.

Searching houses for drugs.

Walking into a room where a fella in his 40s is dead two weeks, flies coming out his stomach.

Holding a dead baby.

Getting spat on/wrestling/very close to people.

Giving cpr.

Just because a guard is on a checkpoint today, doesn't mean he wasn't dealing with one of the above yesterday. Or all of the above since the pandemic, some countless times. Nor does it mean they haven't serious files to be doing as normal, in addition to these checkpoints.

But rather than see that, it's easier to have a pop at a fella in a hi vis, who might take 3 minutes of your day. Because afterall they're a machine in a yellow jacket, who've been standing at a checkpoint waiting for you since they popped out the womb right?

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