Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

ShyMets wrote: »

Just a few more weeks, folk.

Hold firm. We're in this together

As a matter of fact, months are made of weeks.

JDD wrote: »

There's a large difference between front line workers and HSE management.

Nobody is slagging front line workers. And I think you know that.

We are questioning whether it is right for the government to be only taking advice from NPHET (who are not frontline, and not personally financially effected by restrictions) when NPHET advice should only be part of the picture.

Take the example of the Central Bank. Would it be right for the governor of the Central Bank to be holding a press conference every week on the economic impact of restrictions, telling the audience what advice he is giving to the government, what he thinks the public at large should do, and ignore completely the public health impacts of his advice, by saying "well that's not my remit, that's outside of my control".

The press conferences have to stop. The daily numbers have to stop. The leaks have to stop. That's how you get trust back. Until then, I'll be deciding when and how much I start lifting my own restrictions.

Why do you assume that of the 30 odd members of NPHET, none of them have a partner that's out of work at the moment?

Corholio wrote: »

Golf and Tennis for 26th.
GAA intercounty training for 19th.

How does this make sense (if true) if they are supposedly strategic in keeping it 'tight'?

How come they are providing dates now?

No need to wait for M.Martin's nonsense talk this evening. everything is leaked to media already. may be by himself so he don't need to answer any questions.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/restriction-changes-and-dates-everything-we-know-ahead-of-taoiseachs-lockdown-address-40255768.html

As always and since march 2020 NPHET want us to 'hold firm' for another year and then for another year. i thought an elected government is running this country but seems i am wrong.

RIP small businesses but hold firm for ever .

A grand total of sweet F all I've gotten from that. Great.

jusvi2001 wrote: »

No need to wait for M.Martin's nonsense talk this evening. everything is leaked to media already. may be by himself so he don't need to answer any questions.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/restriction-changes-and-dates-everything-we-know-ahead-of-taoiseachs-lockdown-address-40255768.html

As always and since march 2020 NPHET want us to 'hold firm' for another year and then for another year. i thought an elected government is running this country but seems i am wrong.

What do NPHET do when there isn't a pandemic as they seem to have plenty of time to attend meetings, appear on tv and attend press conferences?

PANDAs latest

https://www.pandata.org/about/protocol-for-reopening-society/



a look at the data from science pro re opening soceity etc

I'm struggling with every piece of information being leaked to some favoured journalist...i suppose at least this time they didnt allow Donnelly to go on live tv and stick his foot in it.

Summer is mentioned again - nothing meaningful until then

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1376875392045301763

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Maybe this will come across as selfish or "woe is me" but I think people in this country of a certain age have gotten a real rough go of it.

I know for me, when I finished secondary school and went to college we were at the height of the recession, getting a part time job was next to impossible. So you do college, you leave and I was lucky enough to have a lecturer set me up with a job. Then you realise there's a housing crisis, rent prices are astronomical and your chances of owning a house are probably slim to none unless you're on huge money or you've a dual income. Then a pandemic hits, one that disproportionately effects older people (in a severe manner) so you give up a year of your life to do your part and save lives. Then when it comes time to ease up on restrictions, it's the kids education and lifestyle that is prioritized. And when you're out of all of this, you're walking into a massive global recession again. I think a lot of people in that age bracket pulled the generational short straw.

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

And we're constantly told we don't have it that bad and to suck it up. Sure we were lucky in the last recession, we didn't have mortgages to worry about, we were only getting out of college, sure what's the harm in a couple of years of next to no work. Never mind the fact that plenty of us couldn't get started on a career until our late 20s as a result. It's the same now, sure we should just be grateful we're not in the demographic most likely to get sick from this. Never mind that we'll be paying the price for years to come. Never mind the fact it's going to be hard to find jobs (again) and even harder to buy our own homes given the buildup of demand thanks to limited construction at the moment.

Uncertainty is all a lot of us have known for the entirety of our adult lives. It really starts to wear you down after a while.

in this regard, the narrative from the state has been a brilliant mind control operation. You were always expendable and your needs didn't matter because it was always the needs of the stranger or somebody else mattered - where nobody actually mattered cos they were brainwashed into continually thinking of the other person.

This allowed the state to control the narrative along with the constant fear and misery peddled by the media for state money. Don't be naive in thinking otherwise - all the state advertisement revenue coinciding with soft propaganda with light hearted shows all aimed at keeping us on track... if you think that is a coincidence.?

Then it took root with the majority crippled with the fear and people who wanted any freedom were sneered at (on this very thread too ) for being willing to kill Granny's (never grandfathers mind...) for a pint. Murdering defenseless old women for pints. Every need or desire , no matter what , was depreciated to a dipsomaniac desire for pints.

Even mental health so often a sacred cow was scarified at the alter of "the granny". Suicides were scoffed at or at best taken as colleterial damage.
and so on...

If I learned one lesson in life, its that you are on your own , nobody is coming to save you. The government will never save you. Your mortgage (and the rest) arrears from being on the PUP will be yours to carry.

Ireland 12th April:

- Travel anywhere within county
- Home building to resume

England & Wales 12th April:

- All retail outlets will open
- Pubs, restaurants and cafes
- Gyms and other indoor leisure
- Hairdressers and other personal care businesses
- Self-contained holiday accommodation, like cottages (Easter holidays allowed in UK)
- Outdoor attractions like zoos and theme parks
- Libraries and community centres

RobitTV wrote: »

Ireland 12th April:

- Travel anywhere within county
- Home building to resume

United Kingdom 12th April:

- All retail outlets will open
- Pubs, restaurants and cafes
- Gyms and other indoor leisure
- Hairdressers and other personal care businesses
- Self-contained holiday accommodation, like cottages (Easter holidays allowed in UK)
- Outdoor attractions like zoos and theme parks
- Libraries and community centres

England, not the UK....

I for one am shocked that the country 8 weeks ahead of us in vaccinations is 8 weeks ahead of us in reopening.....

RobitTV wrote: »

Ireland 12th April:

- Travel anywhere within county
- Home building to resume

United Kingdom 12th April:

- All retail outlets will open
- Pubs, restaurants and cafes
- Gyms and other indoor leisure
- Hairdressers and other personal care businesses
- Self-contained holiday accommodation, like cottages (Easter holidays allowed in UK)
- Outdoor attractions like zoos and theme parks
- Libraries and community centres

Pointless comparison really, if we had 50% of the population vaccinated I'd be looking for the same but we don't, it's 12%.