Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings

deckie66 · 30-03-2021 09:28AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Only half the year with restrictions we were told last year could only be kept up for a few weeks. Sure it'll be grand.

slight difference this year - vaccines

Natterjack from Kerry · 30-03-2021 09:29AM

Locotastic wrote: »

Again, estimated or it is thought that.

Also, even IF it is more transmissible, very importantly from that article:

The increased transmissibility model does not identify a clear increase or decrease in the severity of disease associated with VOC 202012/01, finding similar odds of hospitalisation.

Again, that it is very significantly more transmissible, is not itself in question.

OwenM · 30-03-2021 09:33AM

deckie66 wrote: »

The reality of the situation is that very little in terms of relaxation of restrictions was expected until May.

Not true.

deckie66 wrote: »

The easing of restrictions being announced today will take effect a week later than anticipated. Not a lot to ask really.

A lot has already been asked.

darem93 · 30-03-2021 09:36AM

JRant wrote: »

Sure did see it and here's the clip

https://twitter.com/caulmick/status/1376547288223518722?s=08

If he thinks that question was unfair is really shows how he is used to journalists blowing smoke up his ass over the past 6 months. MM does not like to be questioned at all.

Oh the joy it will give me to see him and his party being decimated at the next election.

finalfurlong · 30-03-2021 09:37AM

11521323 wrote: »

I see they're now also using 'the big bang' to describe a scenario where the numbers suddenly increase, what an enormous load of ****e.

Golf players + juvenile training is now a danger ?Christ lab rats get shown more respect than that patronising drivel

is_that_so · 30-03-2021 09:39AM

deckie66 wrote: »

slight difference this year - vaccines

Eventually but not making much headway at present.

LARGElittle · 30-03-2021 09:40AM

darem93 wrote: »

I have genuinely never hated two words as much in my life as I hate these.

"Wet pubs" can do one as well.

Pussyhands · 30-03-2021 09:43AM

The Irish have blasted and mocked Johnson yet the Brits have now undeniably handled this pandemic better than we have.

Idbatterim · 30-03-2021 09:45AM

Use the waze app to avoid covid checkpoints.... every time I hop in the car, there us a bigger chance of me dying than from covid! My mates dont even think about the virus any more,its like its non existent and thats the truth, it is an irrelevance to them at that age. If their parents are vaccinated. I couldnt care less about scaremongering etc, let any one else vulnerable, isolate until they have the vaccine. The biggest virus of them all is the ffg covid bedwetters disgrace!

Corholio · 30-03-2021 09:47AM

Pussyhands wrote: »

The Irish have blasted and mocked Johnson yet the Brits have now undeniably handled this pandemic better than we have.

The vaccination part for sure, before that certainly not. Thats not a pat on our back either.

30-03-2021 09:47AM

Pussyhands wrote: »

The Irish have blasted and mocked Johnson yet the Brits have now undeniably handled this pandemic better than we have.

Only double the deaths. Well done Boris!

Pussyhands · 30-03-2021 09:48AM

Corholio wrote: »

The vaccination part for sure, before that certainly not. Thats not a pat on our back either.

The pandemic isn't over therefore the vaccine and reopening is part of the performance.

lawred2 · 30-03-2021 09:48AM

Pussyhands wrote: »

The Irish have blasted and mocked Johnson yet the Brits have now undeniably handled this pandemic better than we have.

well they've handled the vaccine procurement and rollout better for a fact

but up to that point - they had a bad a run as any country

Corholio · 30-03-2021 09:51AM

Pussyhands wrote: »

The pandemic isn't over therefore the vaccine and reopening is part of the performance.

What does that matter to what I said? You can't change what happened for the past year.

This virus has been 'competition' porn for some, even when it's dealing with lives.

JRant · 30-03-2021 09:57AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What tends to happen is that allowance is not made for a rapid change in the situation. Not enough has been known about the effect of the vaccines while there is still a large amount of susceptible people out there. This data is only now starting to come through that would allow the sort of planning, with confidence,that you are talking about. For example, the clear impact of vaccines in Israel was not seen until recently when they reached 50% coverage. Up until the last couple of weeks, deaths and hospitalisations were stubbornly high, even if in those already vaccinated the improvement was obvious earlier. Now they are starting to see a massive impact.

All fair points but we were able to plan a way out of last year's lockdown 1 with absolutely no vaccines available. This year is paralysis by analysis IMO. I'm not sure why they won't even give a broad outline of a plan. It's just mind boggling.

A Shaved Duck? · 30-03-2021 09:59AM

lawred2 wrote: »

well they've handled the vaccine procurement and rollout better for a fact

but up to that point - they had a bad a run as any country

People should not confuse blind luck in brexit allowing them to hoover up all the vaccine at over the asking price with sound handling of this pandemic.

Deusexmachina · 30-03-2021 10:16AM

A Shaved Duck? wrote: »

People should not confuse blind luck in brexit allowing them to hoover up all the vaccine at over the asking price with sound handling of this pandemic.

Sorry, but that smells of sour grapes. Don't tell me you would prefer to be in our position?

The British have played a blinder:

- they have maintained a careful balance between suppressing the virus and keeping the economy moving
- their messaging has been positive and hopeful rather than pessimistic and fearful
- they secured proper contracts from the vaccine providers and didn't sweat over cost
- they have professionally handled the vaccine rollout with minimum fuss and maximum efficiency
- they are now moving ahead with lifting restrictions.

Meanwhile back in the Banana Republic '“It’s critical that we get the next few weeks right” ....(Eamon Ryan this morning)

lawred2 · 30-03-2021 10:17AM

A Shaved Duck? wrote: »

People should not confuse blind luck in brexit allowing them to hoover up all the vaccine at over the asking price with sound handling of this pandemic.

That's a technocratic response. Do you think the British people really care?

30-03-2021 10:18AM

JRant wrote: »

All fair points but we were able to plan a way out of last year's lockdown 1 with absolutely no vaccines available. This year is paralysis by analysis IMO. I'm not sure why they won't even give a broad outline of a plan. It's just mind boggling.

There is a belief that revolving door lockdowns are the most damaging. I think what they want is to never have to reverse course again. And that is what is feeding into the conservatism.

I believe we could and should be more ambitious in the plan, but do understand why it is not seen that way

JeffKenna · 30-03-2021 10:18AM

A Shaved Duck? wrote: »

People should not confuse blind luck in brexit allowing them to hoover up all the vaccine at over the asking price with sound handling of this pandemic.

I wish the EU had a bit more blind luck.

CapriciousOne · 30-03-2021 10:23AM

lawred2 wrote: »

That's a technocratic response. Do you think the British people really care?

Whatever about the vaccine rollout, I'm sure they care about the thousands of people that died unnecessarily tbf.

Deusexmachina · 30-03-2021 10:25AM

CapriciousOne wrote: »

Whatever about the vaccine rollout, I'm sure they care about the thousands of people that died unnecessarily tbf.

Nonsense. People died from Covid everywhere. Its a global pandemic.

Graham · 30-03-2021 10:29AM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Nonsense. People died from Covid everywhere. Its a global pandemic.

I'm not convinced that means nobody cares about those that died.

Corholio · 30-03-2021 10:30AM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Nonsense. People died from Covid everywhere. Its a global pandemic.

Again, it's silly and childish play country covid wars, but how do you think the British public think 2020 was handled? Playing a 'blinder' is not something I saw anywhere during last year.

Chong · 30-03-2021 10:36AM

What time do we expect the announcement to be ?

muddypuppy · 30-03-2021 10:37AM

CapriciousOne wrote: »

Whatever about the vaccine rollout, I'm sure they care about the thousands of people that died unnecessarily tbf.

I hate to sound cynical, but this whole thing was about protecting the hospitals. The Brits might have come closer than us to have hospitals full, but it didn't happen.

j@utis · 30-03-2021 10:38AM

JRant wrote: »

It's looking like late summer early autumn before we see any real lifting of restrictions though. That's a heavy lift for a lot of people after being locked down for so long.

And when the autumn is here we'll see the rise of the cases again, so everything is gonna get locked up again. I don't see Xmas 2021 happening, because we can't make Xmas 2020 mistake again, right?

SnuggyBear · 30-03-2021 10:41AM

j@utis wrote: »

And when the autumn is here we'll see the rise of the cases again, so everything is gonna get locked up again. I don't see Xmas 2021 happening, because we can't make Xmas 2020 mistake again, right?

100% we will be locked down again in the winter

lawred2 · 30-03-2021 10:41AM

CapriciousOne wrote: »

Whatever about the vaccine rollout, I'm sure they care about the thousands of people that died unnecessarily tbf.

Jesus you just moved that goalpost into a different continent

DTownD · 30-03-2021 10:42AM

Idbatterim wrote: »

Use the waze app to avoid covid checkpoints.... every time I hop in the car, there us a bigger chance of me dying than from covid!

I downloaded the Waze app recently. How accurate do you think it is?

It seems to work for Dublin but elsewhere in the country I'm not so sure.

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